So do we still recommend the 970? Since the VRAM issue seems to be pointing out to be a hardware issue.

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jan 25 2015, 05:04 PM

advise them not to go GTX970 first until problem is resolved

later we kena bombed balik :3

So what alternatives are available?

R9 290

i think we can still recommend GTX970 la, but let the fella know the possible issue of VRAM?

Though wasn't that this is pretty much confirmed unless nVidia issues a fix/recall?

Well, end of the day, the 970 is still faster than the 780 and R9 290. This is a fact that won't changed, even if a game takes up more than 3.5GB of VRAM. The latest AMD Omega driver did close the gap a little bit and if there are mroe games making use of Mantle in the near future, we could potentially see the 290 to come quite close to the 970 and probably even equalling it in a VRAM intensive game.

Best case scenario is not to buy anything right now. Prices has increased (I just got another MSI 970 for SLI for RM1430 so that's still a decent deal considering the MSI 970 released at RM1.5k a few months ago).

Note: The 970 will indeed start to drop frames like crazy if VRAM allocation goes above 3.5GB. You don't even have to try a game, just open up Kombuster and run the 4GB VRAM stress test then compare it with the 3GB, the frames are nearly double on the latter.

On another side note, I think this is why Nvidia didn't push for 3GB of VRAM on the 960. That puny 128bit bus would have bottlenecked like crazy.

Hello guys, anyone know where can i buy MSI 970 Gold Edition ?

Still available at Viewnet, but get it quick if you want. The Gold Edition is very limited, even more so here in Malaysia.

Erm... for the price of a custom 970, I could get a 290X Lightning...

BTW, this is borderline shady and may be classified as false advertising.

...and apparently users are taking out their pitchforks...

This post has been edited by chocobo7779: Jan 25 2015, 07:19 PM

3GB = definitely a problem.

But GTX960 can address 4GB without issue as long as it use four 1GB GDDR5 chips.
The timing is very suspicious as Samsung recently announced production of 1GB GDDR5 chip few weeks ago.

always said VRAM no important but now 3.5GB kpkb at here. amd fanboy just buy amd if u're poorfag.

be inspired

dream PC 4 all yer mofos

easily more than 10k this fuking build



i7 5820k
x99
16gb ddr4 (4GB X 4)
gtx980 (would have been sweet if it was dual/triple SLI)
12 terabyte (6TB X 2)
1000w power supply

This post has been edited by skylinelover: Jan 25 2015, 09:23 PM

Since when Haswell-E and geforce considered as workstation?

Workstation computer uses Xeon and Quadro la

No. The 960 will have issues using 4GB of VRAM even if it's using only 4 modules. Problem isn't how many VRAM chips are on the board, is how the allocation is done.



That's honestly a stupid build. Spend more than 10k but no custom WC setup and use cheapo CLC?
Using a laser sensor mouse? M50x as a headphone just because..?

I'm not surprised... beuatiful chick + wtf build = view hoarder only

Nope, as long as it is 4 modules, there will be no allocation issue.

Have a look on GTX 960 high level diagram.
All SMM units have proper access to memory controller. A true 128bit width.

Nvidia is taking a look at the issue

so well have to wait to see what is their verdict

home workstation

this is call the poorman's workstation afaik

They already have a verdict; the 970 has a gimped 0.5GB of VRAM and in comparison to the 980, the performance drop according to their "testing" is only between 1-4%.

Yeah.

how much is 960m , yeah the mobile version

i still have a feeling they accidentally cut off too much when they were cutting down on the GM204 chip