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post Jun 17 2015, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 17 2015, 10:14 PM)
I'm a noob when it comes to graphic card history  . But I find it strange AMD does not care about the mid tier gamer who only budget is around 300-500 usd

Fury x to be fair is for high end level  , not really surprise about overseas price and local is another story. Rebrand for mid tier and charging the same price is almost shallow like what their competitor did .  Cant they learn from NVIDIA 970 best bang for buck until 3.5gb fiasco

In other words those with decent brain left just get crossfire 290x instead ? Oh crap freesync doesnt work on crossfire LEL
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290(x) probably will get a fast phase out similar to the case of 7970 to 280x so they don't eat in the margin of new cards.

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 17 2015, 07:27 PM)
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Don't rush to conclusion first. How can you possibly make the card so freakin small without sacrificing performance. I believe they will lower a lot of clockspeed to get that 175W TDP.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 17 2015, 10:31 PM)
Don't rush to conclusion first. How can you possibly make the card so freakin small without sacrificing performance. I believe they will lower a lot of clockspeed to get that 175W TDP.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 17 2015, 10:14 PM)
I'm a noob when it comes to graphic card history  . But I find it strange AMD does not care about the mid tier gamer who only budget is around 300-500 usd

Fury x to be fair is for high end level  , not really surprise about overseas price and local is another story. Rebrand for mid tier and charging the same price is almost shallow like what their competitor did .  Cant they learn from NVIDIA 970 best bang for buck until 3.5gb fiasco

In other words those with decent brain left just get crossfire 290x instead ? Oh crap freesync doesnt work on crossfire LEL
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The 300-500 range last time were the R7 right? The new ones are the R9 370 and stuff, much faster but yeah they're rebrands.
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Jun 17 2015, 10:31 PM)
Don't rush to conclusion first. How can you possibly make the card so freakin small without sacrificing performance. I believe they will lower a lot of clockspeed to get that 175W TDP.
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Exactly. It won't be just clockspeed, it is a die harvested GPU. I got the feeling the number of CU and subsequent ROP/TMU is cut down significantly to achieve it. I'd keep my 290X. I could always downclock it to achieve lower power consumption, easy peasy. Still, I reserve my judgement until real numbers comes out
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please support to disagree with this price . http://eaduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/eaduan/main.php?lang=2

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 17 2015, 10:14 PM)
I'm a noob when it comes to graphic card history  . But I find it strange AMD does not care about the mid tier gamer who only budget is around 300-500 usd

Fury x to be fair is for high end level  , not really surprise about overseas price and local is another story. Rebrand for mid tier and charging the same price is almost shallow like what their competitor did .  Cant they learn from NVIDIA 970 best bang for buck until 3.5gb fiasco

In other words those with decent brain left just get crossfire 290x instead ? Oh crap freesync doesnt work on crossfire LEL
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why u say amd don't care ? AMD R9 380/390x price 200usd to 400usd and this cards 4GB is 4GB.. icon_rolleyes.gif

AMD Fury/Fury X design compete with 980 Ti /Titan X
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 17 2015, 11:53 PM)
why u say amd don't care ?  AMD R9 380/390x price 200usd to 400usd  and this cards 4GB is 4GB..  icon_rolleyes.gif

AMD Fury/Fury X design compete with 980 Ti /Titan X
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Actually is 8GB for the nineties.

But performance wise, I still curious if 380 can challenge GTX970.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Jun 17 2015, 11:58 PM)
Actually is 8GB for the nineties.

But performance wise, I still curious if 380 can challenge GTX970.
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oh i know.. i just dun want to rub the 3.5gb fiasco.. ok then where 8GB is 8GB biggrin.gif (even so performance don't effect the gameplay maybe minor 8GB) which i think this go same with AMD R9 Fury HBM 4GB on 4K LCD..

i think AMD R9 380/380X is design to compete with GTX 960/960 Ti ?? hmm.gif

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i think it is robbery practice for selling RM4899 Fury X.
it should have official price set by eat vendors.
however most shop do not follow it.
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 17 2015, 06:53 AM)
Can anyone answer me with simple layman terms ,will 4gb HBM will be enough for 4k gaming or game that uses a lot of vram like gta v without stuttering/performance hit ?
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4GB is enough for 4K gaming. Stuttering in this case basically after effect when VRAM maxed out. If we use GTA V as an example, I have never max out the settings including the advanced graphics setting but based on the info I found & assuming fury can max out GTA V, 4GB may not enough. Higher resolution also consume VRAM, so need to take that into account too. You can always turn down graphics settings to lower VRAM usage. Basically you can game at 4K with 4GB card.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 17 2015, 10:18 AM)
You are too forgiving and accepting. It's NATURAL to question all the hyperbole and marketing claims on these slides. Of course two is better than one. The point of he matter is that it took them TWO Fijis to claim that, instead of one. What's stopping them from putting on that same slide that claim of "world's fastest single GPU" right next to the Fury X, instead of putting that "world's fastest graphics card" on the dual Fiji instead? 

CFX implementation on anything AMD is still poor so even if it does claim the world's fastest graphics card, having to deal with CFX peculiarities like micro stuttering and missing CFX profiles alone does not ensure "the best 4K experience" as what they claimed. It's like having the fastest Ferrari car around but giving it to drive to an 18 year old who just pass his driving license test. Single GPU card is still the metric to look for to avoid CFX complications. rolleyes.gif

You can be defensive about folks questioning AMD all you want, but it doesn't help their cause when they're not being true to their own claims. Or in this case, side skirting around vague claims and statements.

Personally to me, THIS was the only good thing that came out of the presentation yesterday:

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It shows forward thinking and innovation on behalf of AMD to think outside the box on what their HBM implementation has done to shrink the PC form factor into a form which was not possible before. Almost like a PC version of that dustbin-looking Mac Pro.
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I don't know about the rules but usually most powerful card will be crown to single gpu card.

CFX performance is very good nowadays. No more micro stutters. It's old news. Nowadays the problem is whether the games support CFX or not. That's all. Usually AMD will release driver update to support CFX for certain games. Only problem it may take time.
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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jun 18 2015, 01:17 AM)
i think it is robbery practice for selling RM4899 Fury X.
it should have official price set by eat vendors.
however most shop do not follow it.
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Does any other shop stated their prices yet?.
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idealtech list R9 390 nitro 8GB the same as well @ RM1569

so don't blame the shops, the price is from sapphire distributor

fury x at RM4.9K..just crazy
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 18 2015, 01:40 AM)
idealtech list R9 390 nitro 8GB the same as well @ RM1569

so don't blame the shops, the price is from sapphire distributor

fury x at RM4.9K..just crazy
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shocking.gif RM4.9K! the graphics card game has reached a new level.
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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 17 2015, 10:14 PM)
I'm a noob when it comes to graphic card history  . But I find it strange AMD does not care about the mid tier gamer who only budget is around 300-500 usd

Fury x to be fair is for high end level  , not really surprise about overseas price and local is another story. Rebrand for mid tier and charging the same price is almost shallow like what their competitor did .  Cant they learn from NVIDIA 970 best bang for buck until 3.5gb fiasco

In other words those with decent brain left just get crossfire 290x instead ? Oh crap freesync doesnt work on crossfire LEL
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Please keep in mind, with drivers getting update, old news may not remain true anymore.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost....postcount=11056
Sorry about the text formatting. I just copied-paste this from the above site.
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AMD is releasing a two
-
phase driver release with Catalyst 15.15 and 15.20
. T
he 15.15
drivers
are
available immediately
,
and the 15.20 drivers
are
coming a few weeks later.
The Catalyst 15.15 drivers bring new features like
:

FPS Targeting
:
T
he ability to save power by setting a maximum FPS target

Virtual Super Resolution
:
The ability to down
scale a game from a high
resolution to a lower r
esolution, giving a user higher
-
quality textures in game
(
also known as supersampli
ng)

P
erformance optimizations
:
A
dding game p
erforma
nce optimizations to AMD
R9 Fur
y X
and other graphics cards
Although
Catalyst 15.15 drivers will not be available for Windows 10,
Catalyst
15.20 will
be. The Catalyst 15.20 drivers will bring features like:

C
atalyst Uninstaller
:
A
llows users to uninstall their AMD catalyst drivers
cleanly,
so new drivers can be installed without incident

OpenCL 2.0 optional features
:
M
ultiple performance and feature additions

FreeSync + CrossFire
:
T
he ability to run FreeSync
dynamic screen refresh
technology with multiple GPUs in CrossFire mode.
Catalyst 15.20 divers
will also
have
Windows 10 specific features like:

HEVC
(
H
igh
E
fficiency
V
ideo
C
odec)
:
E
nables quality streaming and 4K
experiences

DirectX 12
:
S
upport for the lo
w
-
level efficient graphics API for Windows 10

Windows 10 WHQL
(Windows Hardware Quality Lab)
:
AMD’s latest driver
release (15.20) will be WHQL and WHQL for Windows 10 as well


AMD Catalyst 15.15 modded for 290's & lower.
http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=400078&page=2

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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 18 2015, 01:40 AM)
idealtech list R9 390 nitro 8GB the same as well @ RM1569

so don't blame the shops, the price is from sapphire distributor

fury x at RM4.9K..just crazy
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were not blame the shop, but there shop need to be taken as example.. we buyer electronic not to be taken advantage No problem paying 6% GST + 10-20% service charge for shop/seller just having issues with Seller/shop/distributor seling/charging excessive 70-80% on top of GST... what this Merc-benz ? got excessive Charges ? smile.gif

so please made Complaint send email icon_rolleyes.gif .. i already msg officer working KPDNKK he says check it out next week as currently they are doing Tour checking price Over profit shop..

http://eaduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/eaduan/main.php?lang=2
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 18 2015, 06:11 AM)
were not blame the shop, but there shop need to be taken as example.. we buyer electronic not to be taken advantage No problem paying 6% GST + 10-20% service charge for shop/seller just having issues with  Seller/shop/distributor seling/charging excessive 70-80% on top of GST...  what this Merc-benz ?  got excessive Charges ?  smile.gif

so please made Complaint send email  icon_rolleyes.gif  .. i already msg officer working KPDNKK he says check it out next week as currently they are doing Tour checking price Over profit shop..

http://eaduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/eaduan/main.php?lang=2
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I can wait... whistling.gif
Here is the SOS of Malaysia price of AMD 300 series products.
http://www.lowyat.net/2015/06/amd-radeon-r...y-above-rm-400/

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Tech Armory stated 2.2k for Fury and 2.7k for Fury XT.

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 18 2015, 06:11 AM)
were not blame the shop, but there shop need to be taken as example.. we buyer electronic not to be taken advantage No problem paying 6% GST + 10-20% service charge for shop/seller just having issues with  Seller/shop/distributor seling/charging excessive 70-80% on top of GST...  what this Merc-benz ?  got excessive Charges ?  smile.gif

so please made Complaint send email  icon_rolleyes.gif  .. i already msg officer working KPDNKK he says check it out next week as currently they are doing Tour checking price Over profit shop..

http://eaduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/eaduan/main.php?lang=2
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It's not a controlled item and thus they can set any price they want ler.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 18 2015, 07:35 AM)
It's not a controlled item and thus they can set any price they want ler.
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hmm.gif well i ask buddy working there... and i know gov need extra income for.. country eco boost.. so gonna try use "The Price Control Anti-Profiteering Act 2011" What is Application of PCAP? "Under the PCAP, it is an offence for a person/retailer to make an unreasonably high profit ("profiteering") from the sale or supply of goods or services in the course of a trade or a business. icon_rolleyes.gif

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