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 Why Mitsubishi Attrage is not popular in Malaysia?, Compare to Vios, City and Almera

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post Jul 9 2015, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 9 2015, 06:07 PM)
I did not even test drive. Went to showroom, tried to get into the back seat... Dammit!!! This car is just as small and tight as Axia!! WTF?!!! I thought i hated the Mirage for having the same problem. NOPE!!!
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rclxms.gif good - means this car is not for you. cool2.gif am lucky uncle drivers like me are not associated with fanbois like u ! thumbup.gif
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post Jul 9 2015, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Jan 3 2015, 10:33 AM)
their 3 cyclinder shake worst than a axia ! 
you should do an extensive test drive like more than 30 minute to feel the car
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blink.gif i owned this car practically for 2 years - i don't see how it can shake - hmm.gif the only reason i think it shakes more than an axia is that ur lying.

PLEASE POST A YOUTUBE VIDEO to show how is the so-called engine shaking in a Attrage 1.2 icon_idea.gif ! cakap buat serupa bikin ya ... otherwise u can all talk ayam sahaja ...

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post Jul 9 2015, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 9 2015, 09:03 AM)
Lol...there u go, I think to sum it all...its just Malaysian mentality....

Overpriced? Based on what? 1.2l engine? If so...what about fiesta? 1.0l selling at what price???

No steering control? Errer.....some Toyoda ada ada marque car at around that price range also don't have, some don't even have leather draped steering

Looks? Well that's just personal taste

Underpowered? Errr.....have u guys compared its specs? Its no where underpowered.....but yeah ...its not all that powerful....I would say its more than adequate.

NVH? This is very biased...as its all about ur feel....get it tested with some noise indictor on all the cars and show me the facts..any times its all in the head...judgement is almost always clouded by their 1ST impression and perception, e.g PROTON, enuff said...nobody even wanna give it a fair chance even though some cars are better than their Japanese competitor...but hey its a proton everything MUST suck right?

3 piston? Well if u guys know anything bout engine, 3cylinders actually give better torq, and less moving parts to replace...oh and the exhaustxsound from a 3 cyl. Sometimes sounds like a Scooby...nice...

And...the list can go on....so yeah...ppl that do buy the cad r ppl that actually just appreciate the car for what it is...nothing more nothing less...
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thumbup.gif good thinking bro - at least ur talking from the right perspective - i find that Malaysians are funny people - they talked as though their perception of something outweights the talk of people whom actually owned one of this car ! lol doh.gif rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 9 2015, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Jan 6 2015, 03:03 PM)
dont know about attrage, mirage was plagued by flywheel problem.
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nod.gif yes; and Nissans-Toyota-Hondas all not plagued by Takata Exploding airbags ? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 9 2015, 05:56 PM)
Er. Europeans hate the Mirage/Attrage too. Some reviewers called it a car meant to punish 3rd world countries.

I agree with underpowered, Malaysians are obsessed with lots of power, when no one is using it anyway. Just push a little harder... more than enough to keep up with traffic.

Where does a 3 cylinder give better torque? What is that statement based on?

Overpriced... based on safety specs for example. An Iriz that costs less is much safer than the Mitsubishi... even the entry level Iriz easily beats it.
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European? How to compare when they can get much much much better cars at a price of proton?

Correct iriz is much better spec......in fact iriz is much better than most cars on the road much better than cars in it's class and also cars above its class....but why ppl still buying other cars and not that many iriz on the road....simple...mentality lor..as I mention...PROTON AH....useless one lah..PROTON where can buy geh...its a PROTON! Hence it just enforce my argument.......ppl buy the car base on branding & marketing more than the actual value of the car itself.

Every time ppl ask for a car of that range to buy..I say iriz is a really really good car....ppl just look at me like I'm a retard..and answer ' its a PROTON...puhleaaasseee....how it even b considered!'
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post Jul 9 2015, 08:07 PM

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A simple solution like any other brands you can do to improve your handling.

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post Jul 9 2015, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 9 2015, 07:58 PM)
European? How to compare when they can get much much much better cars at a price of proton?

Correct iriz is much better spec......in fact iriz is much better than most cars on the road much better than cars in it's class and also cars above its class....but why ppl still buying other cars and not that many iriz on the road....simple...mentality lor..as I mention...PROTON AH....useless one lah..PROTON where can buy geh...its a PROTON! Hence it just enforce my argument.......ppl buy the car base on branding & marketing more than the actual value of the car itself.

Every time ppl ask for a car of that range to buy..I say iriz is a really really good car....ppl just look at me like I'm a retard..and answer ' its a PROTON...puhleaaasseee....how it even b considered!'
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nod.gif is ok bro - i feel for u ... the typical way most of our Malaysians speak is KNS doh.gif

Example

Ask P1 close shop la ... rolleyes.gif

rclxm9.gif Typical Malaysians all got tunnel-visions and views - they think closing down P1 can solve their anger for cheaper cars ! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

i would in fact urged these people to go petition to the government to stop subsidizing proton and let it die ! nod.gif laugh.gif and see where it gets to.

the fact is government will not let P1 die because too much at stake. that's why i feel so sorry for Malaysia - you can tell from their herd mentality how sophisticated is their thinking. doh.gif

AVERAGE Malaysians Joes and Janes can all bantai and biatched about their unhappiness - the real patriots and Malaysians are the ones that will come out with solution to the problems !

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post Jul 9 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(heihei @ Jan 3 2015, 10:33 AM)
their 3 cyclinder shake worst than a axia ! 
you should do an extensive test drive like more than 30 minute to feel the car
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Are you sure? I own both cars but my attrage does not vibrate when I reverse or during stop and go traffic unlike the axia.
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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jul 9 2015, 07:51 PM)
nod.gif yes; and Nissans-Toyota-Hondas all not plagued by Takata Exploding airbags ?  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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nah..dont quote me like i am a toyota honda nissan fanboi. i just giving my own opinion regarding the car half yr ago.. sweat.gif not sure how it is doing now lel
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 9 2015, 07:58 PM)
European? How to compare when they can get much much much better cars at a price of proton?

Correct iriz is much better spec......in fact iriz is much better than most cars on the road much better than cars in it's class and also cars above its class....but why ppl still buying other cars and not that many iriz on the road....simple...mentality lor..as I mention...PROTON AH....useless one lah..PROTON where can buy geh...its a PROTON! Hence it just enforce my argument.......ppl buy the car base on branding & marketing more than the actual value of the car itself.

Every time ppl ask for a car of that range to buy..I say iriz is a really really good car....ppl just look at me like I'm a retard..and answer ' its a PROTON...puhleaaasseee....how it even b considered!'
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Er, in Europe cars are not that cheap, unless you go for a naked car with tiny engine (and not turbocharged or anything), steel rims and no radio or aircon. And several of the decent affordable cars sold in Europe are also sold in Malaysia, say the 208, Fiesta, Jazz, ... .

Mitsubishi is a Japanese brand, sure get benefit of a doubt? Sure people will think it is reliable and everything?

I agree with what you say about the Iriz and Proton in general, but the Mitsubishi just feels a bit sub par. It's not so competitive. Why not get a Picanto instead? Especially if you look at the discounts that are available these days... the only thing missing is the boot, but otherwise it's much more of a car.
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Because it has same items in every car in this world...
Got expansive cost, 4 tyres, one steering, got gear, got radio, etc...

The only major problem is because it has Mitsubishi Logo in-front and back of the car not Toyota, Honda, BMW, Merz, Audi, etc...

Logo is kind of the spoiler...
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it is a comfy car. i used to rent it in langkawi. interior sound is minimum. even with 1.2 engine the engine sound is not that intrusive. but the steering can feel the shake on idle. even cheapskate myvi dont have this issue should be because 3vs4 cylinder. but it is not that bad. i believe it is way more spacious than axia. should be compared to myvi instead. but i dont know how it perfoms on highway as we cant drive very fast on langkawi island.

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post Jul 10 2015, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jul 9 2015, 08:07 PM)
A simple solution like any other brands you can do to improve your handling.

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Why would any tom dick and harry buy a car like this and invest on it any more money to make it handle better? Is it an inferior product out of factory? This car is really not people friendly. Entering the rear doors is like entering a space module. The front are ok. Rear is not good compared to Myvi. Why pay so much for something badly thought for passengers? Its not like buying a coupe where the rear passenger are secondary. I drive a 2 door car every day so i do know what i am talking about. And its not cheap by any means. Suzuki are never really cheap in Malaysia. I know personally a Suzuki Wagon R that cost RM200K in Malaysia. A wagon R that is equivalent to a Kenari!!

The best Suzuki if you ever wanted one is the SX4. This Mirage & Attrage is almost like an afterthought. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 10 2015, 12:45 AM)
Why would any tom dick and harry buy a car like this and invest on it any more money to make it handle better? Is it an inferior product out of factory? This car is really not people friendly. Entering the rear doors is like entering a space module. The front are ok. Rear is not good compared to Myvi. Why pay so much for something badly thought for passengers? Its not like buying a coupe where the rear passenger are secondary. I drive a 2 door car every day so i do know what i am talking about. And its not cheap by any means. Suzuki are never really cheap in Malaysia. I know personally a Suzuki Wagon R that cost RM200K in Malaysia. A wagon R that is equivalent to a Kenari!!

The best Suzuki if you ever wanted one is the SX4. This Mirage & Attrage is almost like an afterthought.  rolleyes.gif
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Why put more money to make it handle better? Good question. Because it is my money and it is not your money so why should you have a say on how other spent their money? Ru planning to subsidize any of our choices?

People friendly is by taking public transport.

Rear as in what rear? This car is a sedan with bootspace and the myvi is a hatch. Don't get your drift.

Why pay so much? Is simple, cars in Malaysia is overpriced.

SX4 is Suzuki and Attrage or Mirage is Mitsubishi. So your point is?
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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jul 10 2015, 01:02 AM)
Why put more money to make it handle better? Good question. Because it is my money and it is not your money so why should you have a say on how other spent their money? Ru planning to subsidize any of our choices?

People friendly is by taking public transport.

Rear as in what rear? This car is a sedan with bootspace and the myvi is a hatch. Don't get your drift.

Why pay so much? Is simple, cars in Malaysia is overpriced.

SX4 is Suzuki and Attrage or Mirage is Mitsubishi. So your point is?
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Moral of story, don't buy an overpriced Suzuki or an overpriced Mitsubishi and then waste time replying the product is something you have to live with. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Jul 9 2015, 11:54 PM)
it is a comfy car. i used to rent it in langkawi. interior sound is minimum. even with 1.2 engine the engine sound is not that intrusive. but the steering can feel the shake on idle. even cheapskate myvi dont have this issue should be because 3vs4 cylinder. but it is not that bad. i believe it is way more spacious than axia. should be compared to myvi instead. but i dont know how it perfoms on highway as we cant drive very fast on langkawi island.
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Engineering question. This car is running on EPS like the current generation of the Myvi,Toyota Vios. So literally, how would the steering shake when car is idle or is it shaking when moving? Post la YouTube. I am sure everyone would marvel at this amazing discovery.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jul 10 2015, 01:06 AM)
Moral of story, don't buy an overpriced Suzuki or an overpriced Mitsubishi and then waste time replying the product is something you have to live with.  laugh.gif
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The feeling is mutual.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 9 2015, 11:13 PM)
Er, in Europe cars are not that cheap, unless you go for a naked car with tiny engine (and not turbocharged or anything), steel rims and no radio or aircon. And several of the decent affordable cars sold in Europe are also sold in Malaysia, say the 208, Fiesta, Jazz, ... .

Mitsubishi is a Japanese brand, sure get benefit of a doubt? Sure people will think it is reliable and everything?

I agree with what you say about the Iriz and Proton in general, but the Mitsubishi just feels a bit sub par. It's not so competitive. Why not get a Picanto instead? Especially if you look at the discounts that are available these days... the only thing missing is the boot, but otherwise it's much more of a car.
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Exactly lor...Europe well we don't live in Europe...we r in Malaysia....but for argument sake...they also bash mivi like no tommorow I don't see it stopping ppl from making it the best selling car here....I wonder why.???

Yes...its a Mitsubishi...its not a GODCAR....therefore it has its flaw...I think the question is...why is it not popular...no? Not why is it a perfect car.....

Again...u just reinforced my point.....picanto is smaller but much cheaper and equal to iriz in safety spec....it may even have more gadjets too....and cheapest of the 3...so why isn't there more picanto on the road??? Cuz Malaysia mentality lor...branding and RV...u want a b-seg..GODCAR lor...u want a c-seg altis or Cibic lor....u want d-seg...Camry lor...u want kcar mivi lor......ask anyone u meet on the street....most ppl can't tell u what is the specification of the car they own........oh and FC la...that's about the buying criteria of majority here...no?

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post Jul 10 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(alvin ong @ Jul 9 2015, 08:31 PM)
Are you sure? I own both cars but my attrage does not vibrate when I reverse or during stop and go traffic unlike the axia.
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Alvin, just ignore these scammers.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Uncle Paul tan dot org is a fine example of a lot of pseudo-owners of cars whom is #01 good in talking as though they have the car even though they don't own it. What makes LYN an exception?

Just tell them best proof is a real Youtube video.

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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jul 10 2015, 01:23 AM)
Alvin, just ignore these scammers.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Uncle Paul tan dot org is a fine example of a lot of pseudo-owners of cars whom is #01 good in talking as though they have the car even though they don't own it. What makes LYN an exception?

Just tell them best proof is a real Youtube video.
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I feel u bro, TS ask why not popular...I say cuz of mentality...then dunno why so many ppl give reason why its a bad car.........I bet all this ppl only know how to drive a car...don't think they will even dirty a finger to change a light bulb....all pay ppl do...and yet it seems they know more about cars than anyone else....

Yeah it may not be the cheapest car in town...but I sure know it beats hell of a lot more over priced var in the market..like T n H....don't see them complaining....shrugs...why cuz its a T n H lor...

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