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How to bypass TMNet torrent shaping / throttling?, NEWBIE - Read 1st Post
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diego_maradona
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Oct 10 2006, 01:13 PM
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socks5, 219.153.4.98, port 1080 Using this proxy last night ,have some decent speed (20-30kbps for my 512k package),seems slow down now but may worth a try for anyone interested
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awyongcarl
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Oct 10 2006, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(GameSky @ Oct 10 2006, 01:09 PM) same here...but worst...0.8 kBps all the time What BT client are you using? Have you ever considered one of the BT slow factor? It's TCP/IP limiting. If you updates your windows frequently, your TCP/IP shoud be back at default aka 10.
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GameSky
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Oct 10 2006, 01:30 PM
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lol..Im using uTorrent... TCP IP limited?..nah..previously I got 90kBps..until last week...
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fariz
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Oct 10 2006, 01:39 PM
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Tan Sri F
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QUOTE(awyongcarl @ Oct 10 2006, 01:14 PM) What BT client are you using? Have you ever considered one of the BT slow factor? It's TCP/IP limiting. If you updates your windows frequently, your TCP/IP shoud be back at default aka 10. that does not limit your speed, only the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...etwk.mspx#E5AAEQUOTE Limited number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts Detailed description
The TCP/IP stack now limits the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. After the limit has been reached, subsequent connection attempts are put in a queue and will be resolved at a fixed rate. Under normal operation, when applications are connecting to available hosts at valid IP addresses, no connection rate-limiting will occur. When it does occur, a new event, with ID 4226, appears in the system's event log.
Why is this change important? What threats does it help mitigate?
This change helps to limit the speed at which malicious programs, such as viruses and worms, spread to uninfected computers. Malicious programs often attempt to reach uninfected computers by opening simultaneous connections to random IP addresses. Most of these random addresses result in a failed connection, so a burst of such activity on a computer is a signal that it may have been infected by a malicious program.
What works differently?
This change may cause certain security tools, such as port scanners, to run more slowly.
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jcheong
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Oct 10 2006, 02:04 PM
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So now we are like Singapore except Singapore has faster/cheaper packages
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awyongcarl
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Oct 10 2006, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(fariz @ Oct 10 2006, 01:39 PM) that does not limit your speed, only the number of simultaneous incomplete outbound TCP connection attempts. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechn...etwk.mspx#E5AAEHmm.. So I was wrong. Thought it would help a lil' bit though..
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FunkyCatSpangky
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Oct 10 2006, 02:50 PM
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Urgent Help required !!! erm can I kindly ask the Kor Kor here this question ??? 1. what happens to the machine's local IP the moment I connect to Relakk using the relakk client ??? 2. how come I cannot access my machine from another machine locally ??? 3. has the relakk client froze my machine's local ip infavour of another ip ???
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SUSMike3300
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Oct 10 2006, 03:40 PM
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damn suck punya Streamyx!!! I can't even surf the internet smothly... wtf man... wht is tmnet doing!
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zin
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Oct 10 2006, 03:51 PM
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I have not use Skype recently, but does this tmnet throttling affect Skype, which is based on P2P technology?
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maranello55
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Oct 10 2006, 05:00 PM
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In my case, connected to relakks pptp with DHT disabled and only get a properly seeded torrent, I can get around 100kb/s total.
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Haruji Sora
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Oct 10 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Oct 10 2006, 12:44 PM) Any development among the developer of the major BT clients ? I doubt so, there is nothing new planned for uTorrent anyways for any new protocol. They are still working on the stable WebUI, if i'm not mistaken. ---------------- Yes most proxies are dead now, is Relaxxs(or whatever it is called) really working? I will subscribe if it is really working for torrents.
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X.E.D
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Oct 10 2006, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(jcheong @ Oct 10 2006, 03:04 PM) So now we are like Singapore except Singapore has faster/cheaper packages  BUT Singapore's procedures are clear and IIRC can be bypassed easier (Azureus/eMule encryption/obsfucation). (And they have much better lines for darknet usage. Most people wouldn't mind shelling 5 euros per month.)
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Haruji Sora
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Oct 10 2006, 06:03 PM
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What I think is TMNet is just dropping off the multiple connections we're doing with overseas (as BT normally do multiple connection amounting to 100+), that's why proxies or VPN is working, bcoz it disguise the data link from multiple connection to show that it looked like one single connection. This is just what I think, might be wrong  That's why torrent encryption is not working well, because we are still doing multiple connections to overseas. This post has been edited by Haruji Sora: Oct 10 2006, 06:03 PM
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greyPJ
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Oct 10 2006, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 10 2006, 06:03 PM) What I think is TMNet is just dropping off the multiple connections we're doing with overseas (as BT normally do multiple connection amounting to 100+), that's why proxies or VPN is working, bcoz it disguise the data link from multiple connection to show that it looked like one single connection. This is just what I think, might be wrong  That's why torrent encryption is not working well, because we are still doing multiple connections to overseas. you can read its' manual, it can nearly farking everything. Cisco SCE 2000 4/8xFE Installation and Configuration Guide
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Hornet
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Oct 10 2006, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 10 2006, 06:03 PM) What I think is TMNet is just dropping off the multiple connections we're doing with overseas (as BT normally do multiple connection amounting to 100+), that's why proxies or VPN is working, bcoz it disguise the data link from multiple connection to show that it looked like one single connection. This is just what I think, might be wrong  That's why torrent encryption is not working well, because we are still doing multiple connections to overseas. i agree... my number of peer connection cant go any higher than 30 since last week And sometimes when I'm connected to a good peer seeding to me at a ok speed, it gets drop off, how more cruel could they be.... This post has been edited by Hornet: Oct 10 2006, 06:40 PM
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socratesman
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Oct 10 2006, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 10 2006, 06:03 PM) What I think is TMNet is just dropping off the multiple connections we're doing with overseas Your theory makes sense, have u tested it out? - limit your client to max 5-10 connections - try one torrent with many seeders from Asia (HK, JP, TW, SG...) and very, very few leechers. - As per theory, you *should* be getting good speeds.
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Haruji Sora
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Oct 10 2006, 07:00 PM
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socratesman, yes the theory was tested out previously a few weeks back by me and another forummer. But due to torrent nature, when you are having so little connections, you are normally not connected to a large database of users, therefore you're getting peers that might be fast, might not be fast. Therefore the download were slow.
There is ONE time, one time alone that I luckily got connected to a super fast peer in Japan, and I am getting 50+ to 70 kb/s from that peer alone. This situation also occurred on normal torrent behaviour as well, but rarely, and normally when it appear on normal torrent environment, it will last around 10 to 30 minutes, then the peer connection will be dropped, either by TM (or the peer went offline)
But as I say, just my thinking. MIGHT be wrong, migth be right.
EDIT - Yeah I should try it out on one private tracker with very few leecher and alot of high quality seeders. But the problem is finding one that fits the description >_<
This post has been edited by Haruji Sora: Oct 10 2006, 07:01 PM
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ocdetective
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Oct 10 2006, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Oct 10 2006, 07:00 PM) EDIT - Yeah I should try it out on one private tracker with very few leecher and alot of high quality seeders. But the problem is finding one that fits the description >_< Very easy for me to try on UK private tracker - plenty of mature torrents with a lot of seeds and virtually no leechers. What settings do you want to me to try before and after?
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Haruji Sora
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Oct 10 2006, 07:11 PM
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Well for starters you can try this.
If uTorrent, got to preference and decrease global maximum number of connection, I think 10 should do for now Put the same value for maximum number of connected peers per torrent.
Reset your IP, ie, turn off and on your modem and reconnect.
Brand new connection. Start the download of the torrent file, see if you can get any international speeds off the peers or not.
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AFTER - If you manage to get speeds off international peers.
Try to increase the global connection to 130. See if the peer connection stays up or not.
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UK eh... not sure about that, from my experience I get best speeds from Japan, those ppl in Japan uploads at an insane speed.
This post has been edited by Haruji Sora: Oct 10 2006, 07:14 PM
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ocdetective
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Oct 10 2006, 07:15 PM
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I use azureus but has identical settings (currently set at 100 and 167). Will switch off secure tunnel first then test out with a good torrent.
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