200(omni slash) + 80 (normal attack) not stack...basically 2 different attack

This post has been edited by SiewKaiz: Jan 26 2015, 11:06 AM

Omnislash damage consist of 3 type:

1. 3/6/9 (6/9/12 with scepter) slashes with 200-225 damage each slash, TYPE:PHYSICAL, Blade Dance will NOT be triggered
2. Unknown no. of Physical attacks from Juggernaut himself, More ASPD => more hits, Blade Dance cand be triggered
3. Items with active spells/Unique attack modifier, Jugger can even Dagon/Purge the ghost form when omnislashing.

Basically, other than it picks random target for every NORMAL SLASH, basically it has only 1 weakness which not many heroes will buy, EUL scepter.

THis is why now Jugger is hotpick despite the nerf. If used decently, jugger can take out at least 1-2 heroes without risking himself or rely on BKB.

Almost a year ago, I buy MOM+Basher for Jugger, everyone laughed at me Noob/trolling/throwing;
Now Everyone is buying MOM + Basher, slowpoke.

This post has been edited by air: Jan 26 2015, 11:23 AM

ghost and manta works too i think

ok guys

thanks for clarify it..

so by anyhow it will maintain maximum 12 slashes even with scepter.. when <0.4s per atk.. it will have extra dmg as normal attack..

thanks again

Damn...once meepo get Agha it's so easy to comeback

scepter share attribute too gay :/

thats why counter pick and communication in picking stage is important instead asking what role you choose, i normally force them to spill hero range first then pick possible support / gank combo with carry

i hate meepo as opposite as well

This post has been edited by Agito666: Jan 27 2015, 09:27 AM

started playing random in ranked.

never had so much fun before.

Oh ya, something i tested when losing a match ytd, (there is nothing to stop you from learning even if you are losing, cant do shit? test some crazy stuff!!)

Back to topic, i need ppl to help me confirm this again, I used heaven halberd on jug before he cast his ulti on my 1 on 1, but then during the 1st 70% early duration of his omnislash, I almost take no dmg. Then suddenly i think the halberd effect wear off, the 30% left of the duration kill me in second. If possible any1 can help me confirm this?

Edit : Im playing Axe btw, only physical dmg dodge probably from heaven, but I don think atk miss would effect jug ulti rite?

Something to test also: Kotl use blind before jug ulti, WR windrun while jug ulti (the last I test don think it work, but its like from the memory of ages before, din try it lately)

This post has been edited by harusame1989: Jan 27 2015, 10:09 AM

wikipedia stated omnislash damage ignore evasion, so i think is the effect to make jug cant attack...

now this reminds me bane's first skill damage reduction also...someone test it out lol?

Then probably the effect from halberd... seem legit to start counter jug with that

Bane 1st skill reduce basic dmg, if you mean that can reduce the dmg other than omnislash dmg then yeah, still a full omnislash ulti is pain enuf to let u scream.

they also stated omnislash damage is always 200-225 if your base damage is lower i think...

so i duno bane's skill got use or not, best thing is get ghost scepter or EUL

This post has been edited by Agito666: Jan 27 2015, 10:23 AM

Welcome to the club!

I been thinking, if ppl get ghost only, get diffuse blade, use it if he ghost.
If ppl get eul ...... cry then, the best counter against jug.

i think tourney players use manta to counter jugg ulti now :/

eul not really can fully counter omnislash because it does deal no damage when cyclone but only for 2.5 sec haha, if jug ult is level 3 or got aghanim secpter, then it will continue slash you when you drop down.

2nd thing is i hate to see people keep kill neutral creep when walking to jungle to kill jug.... if jug got BF and cast ult then GG already lol because people tend to run separate to away from omnislash.

This post has been edited by Agito666: Jan 27 2015, 10:50 AM

yup this, recently i got 1 game all core rush manta 1st item, 1st i dont realize, but after few time omni their carry open manta, omni just end like that.
i tot early game its just a lucky manta only, but then, every my omni slash got canceled like that

since eul and ghost more for support,i guess for carries manta serves well as a counter jug item and it helps them in being carry too

hmm is tiem to use WD when my team got jug hahah.... he open manta i go use stun cask lel

Tried out sniper today, orchid+arcane ulti spam

Fun thing