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post Jan 25 2015, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 25 2015, 08:25 AM)
So jugg is the thing now eh, how does jugg early rosh ?  hmm.gif
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Healing ward and the crits. Also lifesteal from mom.
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post Jan 25 2015, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(am3rr @ Jan 25 2015, 02:03 AM)
dagger troll. somehow weird and yet effective.

when opponent play troll = 1 hit bash 2 sec = perma bash

when i play troll = 10 hit no bash = enemy reposition into you = dead
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post Jan 25 2015, 12:33 PM

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sorry for the noob question, but what META means?
Also, I understand safe lane, but offlane is it the other lane?
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post Jan 25 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 25 2015, 12:33 PM)
sorry for the noob question, but what META means?
Also, I understand safe lane, but offlane is it the other lane?
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Metagame, standard picks, play, and corresponding reactions.

Off lane means hard lane. For radiant is top, for dire is bottom.
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Jan 25 2015, 08:44 AM)
Healing ward and the crits. Also lifesteal from mom.
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Specific item/skill build for early rosh?


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post Jan 25 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 25 2015, 02:51 PM)
Specific item/skill build for early rosh?
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(babycry123 @ Jan 25 2015, 01:23 PM)
Metagame, standard picks, play, and corresponding reactions.

Off lane means hard lane. For radiant is top, for dire is bottom.
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I see. So meta means the current fave?
I used to thought offlane is jungling, thanks for the explanation. notworthy.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 25 2015, 02:51 PM)
Specific item/skill build for early rosh?
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I imagine if a jugg goes very early for roshan, he'd have to sacrifice bf points and max heal ward and crit first. then rush for MoM.
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 25 2015, 02:57 PM)
I see. So meta means the current fave?
I used to thought offlane is jungling, thanks for the explanation.  notworthy.gif
I imagine if a jugg goes very early for roshan, he'd have to sacrifice bf points and max heal ward and crit first. then rush for MoM.
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That is the current meta for jug...

Max Crit and go stats with 2 heal ward.. Of course ulti is a must at lvl 6

Item rush MoM and Phase boots
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post Jan 25 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 25 2015, 02:57 PM)
I see. So meta means the current fave?
I used to thought offlane is jungling, thanks for the explanation.  notworthy.gif
I imagine if a jugg goes very early for roshan, he'd have to sacrifice bf points and max heal ward and crit first. then rush for MoM.
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people just up bladefury 1 just as escape mechanism(tp/remove dust)

compare to normal hit, its not worth it to use bf as damage source, too low
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QUOTE(~min~ @ Jan 25 2015, 03:14 PM)
people just up bladefury 1 just as escape mechanism(tp/remove dust)

compare to normal hit, its not worth it to use bf as damage source, too low
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kewl, i normally up bf for ita first kill worth. this is definitely worth trying today. been awhile havent played my jugg.

Zzzz....my jugg isn't fast enough to farm MoM.

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post Jan 25 2015, 06:48 PM

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Btw, i just found out pl is a good counter against meta jug with mom, if same gpm, even with mjol and batllefury jug he would lose, pl just need diffusal and hot then win ady. That was my experience when watch a random game. The condition i saw is 1v1 though.
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Btw i wan to confirm again, jug omnislash with mom will increase more hit from normal atk rite?

If true i think vavle will surely nerve it lol. Kinda op for personal thought.
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post Jan 25 2015, 06:53 PM

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can u dont double post..edit ur post to add more word else mod come and banhammer u
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post Jan 25 2015, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(harusame1989 @ Jan 25 2015, 06:51 PM)
Btw i wan to confirm again, jug omnislash with mom will increase more hit from normal atk rite?

If true i think vavle will surely nerve it lol. Kinda op for personal thought.
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more hit if you can reduce attack speed below 0.4, thats why people com bo jugg with troll ulti or mom during omni

if speed >0.4, no additional attack will occur
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post Jan 25 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(harusame1989 @ Jan 25 2015, 06:51 PM)
Btw i wan to confirm again, jug omnislash with mom will increase more hit from normal atk rite?

If true i think vavle will surely nerve it lol. Kinda op for personal thought.
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this has always been the case since dota days.

why would valve wanna nerf it?

the weird thing is icefroq buff jugg as too much = more slashes in omni
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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ Jan 25 2015, 03:44 PM)
kewl, i normally up bf for ita first kill worth. this is definitely worth trying today. been awhile havent played my jugg.

Zzzz....my jugg isn't fast enough to farm MoM.
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Why is your jugg isn't fast enough to get MoM? Do you have a phase boot before MoM? From my experience 6-8 mins with phase boots and MoM is fast farming. 10-12 mins is normal with no heroes killed. 15 mins is slow, but it's okay, there are only 2 reasons for this, 1st you might got harassed by the opponents so hard like there is no tomorrow, 2nd you keep dying without wanting to. Correct me if im wrong pros.
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post Jan 25 2015, 10:15 PM

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dont make bf on ur jugg.

it kills his early game potential.

jugg is not a farming machine.
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post Jan 25 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(am3rr @ Jan 25 2015, 10:15 PM)
dont make bf on ur jugg.

it kills his early game potential.

jugg is not a farming machine.
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totally agree with this. bf doesnt contribute alot to his skill or play style.

if want damage item, go better damage

want speed go for speed item

jugg should go hunt everytime his ult cd
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:49 PM

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I usually get Phase boots, MoM, Basher, Bkb at around 25-30 mins. The use of bkb is actually to immune magic "obviously" besides that it gives you a little bit of extra hp too. when you are immune to any magic you activate your mom and keep hitting the opponents they all will die very fast. I like this style
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QUOTE(am3rr @ Jan 25 2015, 10:15 PM)
dont make bf on ur jugg.

it kills his early game potential.

jugg is not a farming machine.
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i think by bf he mean blade fury..

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