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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Nov 23 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Nov 21 2016, 08:40 AM)
Over the last weekend, I dined at a Chinese restaurant selling non-halal foods and drinks and I noticed there was a Datuk Kong shrine installed right at the entrance to the restaurant.
The owner must have received the wrong advice on the placement of the shrine. However, the restaurant was having a roaring business. Fully packed and there was a long wait for tables.
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Likelihood is high that the shrine is not actually inhabited.

Owner probably went to some feng shui master or Taoist priest to get his Datuk statue consecrated, while in fact, neither of these individuals is qualified to do so.

In Chinese folk religion, a statue of, say, Deity X, can only be consecrated by:

1. A medium channelling Deity X
2. A medium channelling a deity who has authority over Deity X
3. A medium channelling a subordinate deity to Deity x, whom Deity X has authorised to consecrate Deity X-related items
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post Nov 25 2016, 08:15 PM

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Friday night - the best time of the week.

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post Nov 28 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 25 2016, 08:15 PM)
Friday night - the best time of the week.

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Will the medium feel the effects of alcohol e.g. drunk, after the deity "left"?
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post Nov 29 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Nov 28 2016, 08:42 AM)
Will the medium feel the effects of alcohol e.g. drunk, after the deity "left"?
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No, they will not.

My teacher would always finish his trances completely sober.

His liver function tests were pristine each time he went to get his blood tested at the GP's.
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post Dec 8 2016, 06:55 PM

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Another Datuk shrine, constructed around the rock that the Datuk has chosen as his residence.

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post Dec 10 2016, 03:43 PM

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Bro Nacht, what is ur take on this
Penang Ghost King

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post Dec 11 2016, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(estcin @ Dec 10 2016, 03:43 PM)
Bro Nacht, what is ur take on this
Penang Ghost King
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That guy is nothing but trouble.

He consorts with dark and malevolent powers.

Do not engage his services if you know what's good for you.
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post Dec 11 2016, 08:33 PM

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Ji Gong blesses a devotee's home, using his magic broom to 'sweep away' negative influences.

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post Dec 12 2016, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 11 2016, 07:28 PM)
That guy is nothing but trouble.

He consorts with dark and malevolent powers.

Do not engage his services if you know what's good for you.
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Hey bro nachtsider,

Was thinking about you when I was reading over there few days back. Took me long enough to get here and ask you some questions.

I was here in the beginning of your sintua thread and MIA in the middle so forgive me if the questions are repetitions.

Are there checks and balances in that world / dimension? If yes, is it by the deities or by the humans channeling them? Be interesting to know your input since you mentioned early on in the thread the the deities might have left this dimension but what's left behind is their essence / influence (sorry forgot the term you used).

The C&B comes from reading how malevolent beings creates trouble. Any punitive action against them or their mediums?

Who/what are these entities? Different from the stories you've regaled us with (the brothers, Miao Zhong etc), what are the basis for these tiny spirits in jars / fetuses or the yes-man that does the bidding? Lost spirits?

I might have some more but I'll let you answer first. Thanks for maintaining this thread.
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post Dec 12 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 11 2016, 07:28 PM)
That guy is nothing but trouble.

He consorts with dark and malevolent powers.

Do not engage his services if you know what's good for you.
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nah, won't engage his services. just curious about his methods. thanks
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post Dec 12 2016, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Dec 12 2016, 01:05 PM)
Hey bro nachtsider,

Was thinking about you when I was reading over there few days back. Took me long enough to get here and ask you some questions.

I was here in the beginning of your sintua thread and MIA in the middle so forgive me if the questions are repetitions.

Are there checks and balances in that world / dimension? If yes, is it by the deities or by the humans channeling them? Be interesting to know your input since you mentioned early on in the thread the the deities might have left this dimension but what's left behind is their essence / influence (sorry forgot the term you used).

The C&B comes from reading how malevolent beings creates trouble. Any punitive action against them or their mediums?

Who/what are these entities? Different from the stories you've regaled us with (the brothers, Miao Zhong etc), what are the basis for these tiny spirits in jars / fetuses or the yes-man that does the bidding? Lost spirits?

I might have some more but I'll let you answer first. Thanks for maintaining this thread.
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Hi Wong,

Checks and balances do indeed exist in the unseen realm. Spiritual criminals, if apprehended and prosecuted, are subject to severe penalties, just as severe as those meted out in any human court of law, if not more so. Such criminals do not merely encompass supernatural beings, but mortals who are in league with them or utilise their services for illegal purposes. For instance, if you enlist the help of an evil spirit to seduce someone, you are no different from the guy who spikes a woman's drink and rapes her, and you will be punished accordingly, along with your ghostly helper.

There are malevolent spiritual entities of all kinds. Some are spirits of the dead, both human and otherwise, who remain on earth for whatever reason instead of passing on (commonly because they die before their time and are not picked up), along with life-force remnants that have gained sentience of their own (the human life-force consists of ten components, some of which may linger on after death and become entities in their own right). Others were never mortal; they were never born and never died, at least not in the physical sense of the terms (elementals, demons, magical creatures and so on). The ones who have never been mortal before tend to be the more dangerous and powerful.

While the original deities may have moved on, their 'echoes' or aspects continue to serve in their stead, until they in turn sufficiently elevate in spiritual level and leave themselves. For the most part, mediums are nothing but vehicles for the deities to manifest, and possess no special powers of their own. A medium usually has no part to play in the business that his divine patron performs outside of the trance setting, including the punishment of spiritual offenders. For instance, Ah Kow the Tua Ya Pek medium would have absolutely no idea what the Tua Ya Pek he channels does on the days where he does not show up at the sintua to possess Ah Kow for consultation sessions. The Tua Ya Pek may be hunting down demons, making life hell for immoral bomohs, helping lost souls cross over. He is under no obligation to tell Ah Kow any of this unless it is absolutely necessary, or to tell anyone who does not have the required clearance, for that matter. 'Need to know' is very much a thing where it comes to patron-medium relationships.

Hope this helps, and please feel free to ask any more burning questions that might be on your mind. Always good to see people chip in with interesting input. smile.gif

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post Dec 12 2016, 10:39 PM

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Thanks for the explanations! Good to know that people who does mischief (to put it lightly) won't get to hide behind the "protection" of those beings while meddling in other people's life.

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QUOTE(wonglokat @ Dec 12 2016, 10:39 PM)
Thanks for the explanations! Good to know that people who does mischief (to put it lightly) won't get to hide behind the "protection" of those beings while meddling in other people's life.
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The law is the law is the law. wink.gif

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post Dec 13 2016, 03:02 PM

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Interesting thread.
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post Dec 13 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(Annoynimous @ Dec 13 2016, 03:02 PM)
Interesting thread.
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Add to it, if you can.

Make it more interesting.
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post Dec 15 2016, 10:07 PM

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Hi @nachtsider what's your opinion in yantra tattoo or commonly known as sakyant among the Thai Buddhism believers like myself ? I actually do have many different yantra tattooed on me smile.gif

Curious what's the view of sintua belief system in this matter, whether it is wrong, right or neutral ? and how does it affect to the individual in the afterlife ?


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post Dec 16 2016, 04:12 AM

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QUOTE(The_Thorny_Devil @ Dec 15 2016, 10:07 PM)
Hi @nachtsider what's your opinion in yantra tattoo or commonly known as sakyant among the Thai Buddhism believers like myself ? I actually do have many different yantra tattooed on me smile.gif

Curious what's the view of sintua belief system in this matter, whether it is wrong, right or neutral ? and how does it affect to the individual in the afterlife ?
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Anything aimed at selfish, materialistic personal gain is frowned upon in the sintua belief system.

If you, for instance, obtained these tattoos for the purpose of raking in money, sex or power, that would not make you a very virtuous person as far as sintua is concerned.

Whatever happens to you in the afterlife would hinge upon just how immorally you amassed your gains and just how immorally you disposed of or utilised them.
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post Dec 16 2016, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(Arata @ Dec 16 2016, 01:57 AM)
Hi, mind to pm me your sakyant tattoo and does it really bring some positive effect to u?
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Let's not turn this into a Thai Buddhism/Thai occult thread.
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post Dec 16 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 16 2016, 09:55 AM)
Let's not turn this into a Thai Buddhism/Thai occult thread.
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yeap.. agree to Nachtsider, should maintain this thread to sintua, would love to see more sharing from the others too on this topic.
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post Dec 16 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 16 2016, 04:12 AM)
Anything aimed at selfish, materialistic personal gain is frowned upon in the sintua belief system.

If you, for instance, obtained these tattoos for the purpose of raking in money, sex or power, that would not make you a very virtuous person as far as sintua is concerned.

Whatever happens to you in the afterlife would hinge upon just how immorally you amassed your gains and just how immorally you disposed of or utilised them.
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Thanks for your comment, I am 110% agree with you on this.

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