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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Apr 30 2015, 05:40 PM

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Really enjoyed reading this. Thanks for educating. Didn't really know the procedures when praying in temple. Few questions here:

1. The dead will have his soul collected by the Hell guards. Who is subject to this? All Chinese ppl or only Buddhist/Taoist? What about Christians or atheist Chinese?

2. Why does it always rain during 9 Emperor God time?

3. I went to a temple and there is a white Dog/Wolf statue. Wonder what is the story about the dog? Is it named 天狗?

Just to share my own experience. I went to Thean Hou Temple with my friends to ask for guidance (Kau Chim) and I got a not so good chim (with a number that i forgot). The next week I went again with another group of friends and I tried again, hoping to get better results. But the same number came out, I was stunned. Means one cannot run away from his fate.
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What about fortune tellers who can tell ur future by seeing ur birth dates. Are they any how related to sin tua? They are releasing secrets of the sky aren't they?

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post Apr 30 2015, 11:41 PM

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Thanks for the info with the furnished photos for better understanding.
Further question. Some ppl are "adopted" by some of the gods, mainly Guan Yin. How does this adoption works? My friend when he was very young was adopted by Er Lang Shen. He was too young to remember and then his parents divorced. He followed the father and later became Christian. Then he grew up and said he had dreams about this "3-eyed" guy. He later found out about the adoption from his mum tongue.gif
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post May 1 2015, 12:29 AM

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Thanks again Nacht. Really learned a lot from this thread. Before this I was told a temple nearby is praying to "ghosts" which are actually the Hell deities as their faces look scary. Previously misunderstood and I thought the temple is doing some black magic or evil sorcery. Now this clears up after I understand thei Hell deities job and role.

More questions, if you don't mind:
1. Is gambling allowed in temple? they seem to do that often.
2. The temple provides service for 打小人 on certain dates. How does this works?
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post May 1 2015, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(leetan33 @ May 1 2015, 12:34 AM)
Just curious to know, did he de-convert himself back to Chinese Religion?  laugh.gif
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Nope. Just that now he knows who is this 3-eyed guy in his dreams and he is not so afraid anymore. He is not a devoted Christian and doesn't go to church anyway doh.gif

Most of the ppl I heard are adopted by Guan Yin. Seldom heard adopted by Er Lang Shen or other deities. Those adopted by Guan Yin, some of them can't eat beef completely, some can eat outside but cannot bring home. Some had diarrhea after eating beef tongue.gif
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QUOTE(leetan33 @ May 1 2015, 12:49 AM)
I'm adopted by Guanyin too and I abstain from beef.  biggrin.gif
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I heard that for ppl praying to Guan Yin at home, she won't be at the altar all the time. She will going around. But for some ppl who can see something, they will see some pink smoke that means she is in the house

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post May 4 2015, 11:37 PM

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Nacht, regarding your story when u were chased by ghosts when u were young. U believed u could have died. How does a ghost technically kill a human?

I heard before my friend's uncle was hospitalised with unknown sickness. Even doctor can't find out the cause of sickness and said he has only 1 week left to live. So they brought a sifu to visit the uncle. Apparently, the uncle was disturbed by some spirit and the sifu chased it away. The surprised doctor then said it's a miracle he survived.
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Thanks Nacht. No wonder they say woman suicide in red cloth is more powerful.
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post May 13 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(sales.convenience @ May 13 2015, 01:30 PM)
Tales of the mysterious Toa Payoh God Tree

It is believed to be more than 100 years old. It was approximately six storeys tall.

The tree collapsed on Sept. 11 2013 at around 2 p.m. during a storm.

Urban legend has it that when work began to develop Toa Payoh New Town in 1965, the bulldozers sent to flatten the area allegedly malfunctioned when they approached the tree.
The history

The bulldozers could only move in reverse, but not forward towards the tree.

Religious leaders offered prayers to the tree but it “refused” to budge.

The authorities then decided to leave the tree alone.

Residents believe the government took the tree into consideration when planning Toa Payoh town’s layout.
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A simlar story at the Indian temple in Mid Valley

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post May 17 2015, 10:06 PM

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New query for Nacht. Why is that some people have the third eye and can see "things"? And how come children and kids are more prone to seeing "things"?
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post Jun 10 2015, 10:51 PM

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Hi Nacht, not sure if this has been mentioned here before in this thread. can share with us about ppl keeping "little ghosts"?
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post Jun 15 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 13 2015, 10:14 PM)
'Kept ghosts' can be divided into three categories.

The first category are those who are fugitives from the spiritual law, who are trying to escape their final judgement - they find refuge with those who are willing to keep and provide for them, in exchange for favours.

The second category are those who are detained against their will by black magic practitioners and forced to serve their captors, cruelly prevented from crossing over into the next world.

The third category are authorised by a deity or deities to be kept by certain individuals (e.g. priests, monks, spiritual masters) and perform good deeds in their service as a form of penance or spiritual cultivation.

People who keep ghosts belonging to category #1 are guilty of harbouring criminals on the run.

People who keep ghosts belonging to category #2 are guilty of unlawful detention/slavery.

Severe penalties apply to such offenders, so avoid such activities like the plague.
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Thanks. I've heard ppl keeping ghosts to protect themselves. Another story I heard is a gambler brought the little ghost into Genting casino to help him win money and his ghost not able to leave the casino with him.
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Nacht, can share with us how a person is possessed by ghost? My friend was possessed before and tried to suicide. His voice and face expression turned into an entirely different person. I guess the ghost wanted to reincarnate.
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post Jul 15 2015, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jul 15 2015, 01:35 PM)
Why does a ghost need to possess a person to reincarnate?
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Maybe they didn't give him proper send off burial or funeral ceremony, so he can't reincarnate. So he possess a person and suicide so he can reincarnate? Not sure. Wait sifu Nacht give the proper explanation.
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post Jul 20 2015, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jul 15 2015, 08:03 PM)
I'm quite mystified here - as mystified as Yeeck is.

Possessing a person does not serve to facilitate reincarnation for a ghost, let alone hasten it.

What sort of logic is this?
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I'm not sure also, that's what I heard from ppl saying. Wonder if u can share ur knowledge of humans being possessed by lonely spirits. Thanks
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post Aug 13 2015, 05:28 PM

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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3675672
Related post on Ghost Month
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post Aug 14 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Aug 14 2015, 07:35 AM)
There isn't very much serious discussion going on in that thread, is there?  blink.gif
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Nothing serious apart from the first post. It's /k after all
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post Dec 14 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Dec 14 2015, 02:53 AM)
Indeed; they're fairly obscure.

The only temple I'm aware of where they're worshiped is in Kepong (KL).
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Any link between 3 of them other than the master-disciple? Why are they being prayed together?
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 6 2016, 07:36 AM)
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Is it a valid currency for the underworld? I heard before some denominations that are too big i.e. $1 million or $1 billion is not valid down there. Better to burn smaller denominations

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