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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Oct 24 2016, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Oct 21 2016, 02:31 PM)
Does Guan Yin has century meeting wif Jesus or Zeus or similiar?

Just curious is there a collaboration between different faith, believe, religion.
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Of course there is collaboration.

Here is a picture of a Tua Ya Pek medium exchanging pleasantries with a medium channeling Sangili Karuppan, the Hindu equivalent of Li Ya Pek.

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post Oct 24 2016, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Oct 24 2016, 07:24 PM)
Of course there is collaboration.

Here is a picture of a Tua Ya Pek medium exchanging pleasantries with a medium channeling Sangili Karuppan, the Hindu equivalent of Li Ya Pek.

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Wow!
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Once upon a time, there lived a cruel king called Miao Zhong.

He had three daughters.

The first two, Miao Yen and Miao Yin, were as black-hearted as their father.

The third, Miao Shan, was a virtuous and devout girl who wanted nothing more than to spiritually cultivate herself as a nun in Buddha's service and bring salvation to the needy.

Miao Zhong desired to marry off his daughters to three of the most influential lords in his court.

Miao Yen and Miao Yin conspired with their equally wicked husbands to depose their father and seize the throne.

Miao Shan's betrothed was the mighty general Wei Tuo, whom she grew up with as a longtime childhood friend.

Wei Tuo knew that Miao Shan could not marry him due to her spiritual goals; he promised to instead love her as a brother would, and protect her from her father's wrath.

When Miao Zhong came to know of Miao Shan's refusal to marry in favour of becoming a nun, he was furious and disowned her, banishing her from the palace.

Wei Tuo he retained only because the general was too valuable to him; his punishment would come soon enough.

Miao Shan joined a Buddhist convent and became its most pious and compassionate nun, renowned for how dutifully she tended to the sick and the poor.

She began to work miracles of all kinds, and the convent became renowned throughout the kingdom, causing Miao Zhong to become all the more angry.

He ordered Wei Tuo to burn the convent to the ground and massacre its inhabitants; this would be the general's punishment.

Wei Tuo was clever; he spirited Miao Shan and the other nuns to safety before destroying the convent and telling Miao Zhong that everyone within had died.

Miao Shan and her fellow nuns hid out in the forest and eked out a peaceful life, aided by the forest creatures.

In the meantime, Miao Zhong came down with a terrible illness that left him bedridden and close to death.

The only cure for this illness was medicine that had to be made from the eyes and hands of a blood relative.

He begged Miao Yen and Miao Yin to assist him in this regard, but the two princesses and their husbands responded by throwing him into the dungeon to rot and declaring themselves the new rulers of the kingdom.

Wei Tuo marshaled the palace guards and managed to put down the rebellion; the princesses and their consorts were placed under arrest.

He brought Miao Zhong the required medicine, which cured him almost instantly, and solemnly asked the king to contemplate just how it was possible for the medicine to have been made.

Who, asked Wei Tuo, could have contributed their eyes and hands to make the medicine, considering that Miao Zhong had no living blood relatives apart from his three daughters, two of whom had left him to perish?

With a shock, Miao Zhong realised that Miao Shan was not dead, and that SHE had used her eyes and hands to save his life.

Miao Shan's spirit of forgiveness and self-sacrifice left Miao Zhong, Miao Yen, Miao Yin and the princesses' husbands utterly ashamed.

They tearfully declared how wrong they had been, promising to embrace the path of Buddhism and turn over a new leaf.

The kingdom thus entered a new age of peace and harmony.

As a result of their good deeds, Miao Shan and Wei Tuo became Bodhisattvas.

She is now known as Guan Yin, 'She Who Hears the Cries of the Needy'.

And he is now known as Skanda, Protector of the Dharma and guardian of Buddhist temples everywhere against evil influences.

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I was told GuanYin followers are prohibited/advised to avoid consuming beef because out of respect to her father who was reincarnated as a cow in his next life. Is it true? What is the real reason behind it?
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post Oct 26 2016, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Oct 26 2016, 09:26 AM)
I was told GuanYin followers are prohibited/advised to avoid consuming beef because out of respect to her father who was reincarnated as a cow in his next life. Is it true? What is the real reason behind it?
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Only a small number of Guan Yin devotees prohibit themselves from eating beef.

Their rationale is that King Miao Zhong was reborn as an ox to repay for his great sins, and eating beef would thus be disrespectful towards Guan Yin's father.

This is a belief that the rest of the Guan Yin devotees think preposterous.

Think about it - even if he was reborn as an ox, surely the no-eating taboo really should only apply to that ONE particular ox he was transformed into, right?

Surely a part of him cannot exist in every single head of cattle that came into this world since his transformation? rclxub.gif
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post Oct 30 2016, 02:59 PM

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Hope y'all have a great Halloween. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 5 2016, 04:58 PM

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Bless the child.

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post Nov 6 2016, 09:40 PM

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post Nov 13 2016, 12:41 AM

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Incense burns and halal offerings sit before a Datuk shrine.

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 13 2016, 12:41 AM)
Incense burns and halal offerings sit before a Datuk shrine.
Why are special white candles used beside the red ones for Datuk gong prayer?

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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Nov 14 2016, 01:04 PM)
Why are special white candles used beside the red ones for Datuk gong prayer?
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They signify purity.
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post Nov 14 2016, 03:14 PM

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Hello Nacht,

In the first picture, why the another deity statute is outside the shrine?
Also Datuk kong?

First time seeing yellow shrine. The usual ones I encounter are red and sometimes green. Is the shrine colour according to the Datuk's preference?

Is it true that those work consume pork during the day are not allowed to pray to Datuk kong?
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QUOTE(putra23 @ Nov 14 2016, 03:14 PM)
Hello Nacht,

In the first picture, why the another deity statute is outside the shrine?
Also Datuk kong?

First time seeing yellow shrine. The usual ones I encounter are red and sometimes green.  Is the shrine colour according to the Datuk's preference?

Is it true that those work consume pork during the day are not allowed to pray to Datuk kong?
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Hello Putra,

The statue outside the shrine is the original Datuk statue, which has been replaced by the new one currently sitting inside.

Red is the standard colour that retailers provide, although this can of course be altered to whatever colour the Datuk within may desire.

Green is the Islamic colour, of course, while yellow is the colour of Malay royalty.

You should never be in close proximity with a Datuk shrine if you have consumed non Halal food or drink.

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QUOTE(teamjoker @ Nov 14 2016, 10:50 PM)
Hello Nacht,
Want to consult  you where to find snake temple and monkey god temple in PJ/Damansara area.
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Hi Joker,

You will be quite hard pressed to find a Chinese folk religion establishment, especially one that provides consultation sessions with mediums, in PJ or Damansara.

Hokkien majority areas are your best bet.

The closest Monkey King temple I can recommend is the Sun Ling Gong, located at 39, Jalan Ayer Dusun, Taman Air Panas, Setapak 53200.

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HI there Nacht,

AND what do u know abt fox spirits? Either the chinese/japanese/korean ones?

Ever "met" any of them?
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 14 2016, 07:13 PM)
Hello Putra,

The statue outside the shrine is the original Datuk statue, which has been replaced by the new one currently sitting inside.

Red is the standard colour that retailers provide, although this can of course be altered to whatever colour the Datuk within may desire.

Green is the Islamic colour, of course, while yellow is the colour of Malay royalty.

You should never be in close proximity with a Datuk shrine if you have consumed non Halal food or drink.

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post Nov 17 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(ahpek890 @ Nov 17 2016, 12:42 AM)
HI there Nacht,

AND what do u know abt fox spirits? Either the chinese/japanese/korean ones?

Ever "met" any of them?
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They are seductive, amoral and not to be trusted.

Never met any personally, but their reputation precedes them.
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 16 2016, 09:04 AM)
Hi Joker,

You will be quite hard pressed to find a Chinese folk religion establishment, especially one that provides consultation sessions with mediums, in PJ or Damansara.

Hokkien majority areas are your best bet.

The closest Monkey King temple I can recommend is the Sun Ling Gong, located at 39, Jalan Ayer Dusun, Taman Air Panas, Setapak 53200.

Nacht
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klang got MONKEY KING temple at meru,near TNB
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 17 2016, 01:29 PM)
They are seductive, amoral and not to be trusted.

Never met any personally, but their reputation precedes them.
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Don't lah tarnish their reputation. cry.gif There are, apparently, some good kuminho around.
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QUOTE(ahpek890 @ Nov 17 2016, 06:22 PM)
Don't lah tarnish their reputation.  cry.gif  There are, apparently, some good kuminho around.
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I'll believe it when I see it.

Until then, I would not encourage anyone to rub shoulders with them.
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 14 2016, 07:13 PM)
Hello Putra,

The statue outside the shrine is the original Datuk statue, which has been replaced by the new one currently sitting inside.

Red is the standard colour that retailers provide, although this can of course be altered to whatever colour the Datuk within may desire.

Green is the Islamic colour, of course, while yellow is the colour of Malay royalty.

You should never be in close proximity with a Datuk shrine if you have consumed non Halal food or drink.

Nacht
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Over the last weekend, I dined at a Chinese restaurant selling non-halal foods and drinks and I noticed there was a Datuk Kong shrine installed right at the entrance to the restaurant.
The owner must have received the wrong advice on the placement of the shrine. However, the restaurant was having a roaring business. Fully packed and there was a long wait for tables.


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