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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post May 20 2016, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(stargamer @ May 19 2016, 11:55 PM)
Can you tell us about shek kam dong? History and background and the deity specialization
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The words 'shek kam dong' don't correspond to any dialect that I understand.

Could you write these words out in Chinese character form?
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post May 20 2016, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ May 20 2016, 06:58 AM)
The words 'shek kam dong' don't correspond to any dialect that I understand.

Could you write these words out in Chinese character form?
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presumably 石敢当

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post May 20 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ May 20 2016, 09:06 AM)
presumably 石敢当
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Oh, THOSE.

I've already spoken about them here:

QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 7 2015, 06:36 AM)
The Tai Shan Shi Gan Dang I would not really classify as 'deities'; rather, they are warding devices.

These stones are fragments of the bedrock of Mount Tai, which is regarded as a sacred mountain.

The stones are placed at strategic or accident-prone areas to ward off evil and prevent mishaps or even natural disasters.

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post May 23 2016, 08:34 AM

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Singapore's Pulau Ubin Tua Pek Gong temple recently held a festival in Tua Pek Gong's honour.

Here are some photos from the event:

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post May 23 2016, 08:35 AM

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And more...

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post May 23 2016, 08:35 AM

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... and more.

This last set of photos depicts Tua Li Ya Pek making a special appearance to honour the venerable gentleman.

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post May 26 2016, 08:11 AM

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More photos from the Ubin festival! biggrin.gif

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post May 26 2016, 02:12 PM

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Up close and personal with Tua Li Ya Pek:

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post May 27 2016, 12:22 AM

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Just curious, which dialect do they speak?
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post May 27 2016, 05:45 AM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ May 27 2016, 12:22 AM)
Just curious, which dialect do they speak?
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Hokkien is the usual dialect that Tua Li Ya Pek speak.

The original pair of Tua Li Ya Pek were Hokkiens.
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post May 31 2016, 03:14 PM

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nachtsider, Tua Pek Kong originated from Penang?
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post Jun 1 2016, 06:24 AM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ May 31 2016, 03:14 PM)
nachtsider, Tua Pek Kong originated from Penang?
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No.

He was first worshipped in ancient China.
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post Jun 1 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 1 2016, 06:24 AM)
No.

He was first worshipped in ancient China.
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Can you share more on Tua Pek Kong regarding the origins and history?
The version on wiki...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tua_Pek_Kong

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post Jun 1 2016, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(putra23 @ Jun 1 2016, 02:18 PM)
Can you share more on Tua Pek Kong regarding the origins and history?
The version on wiki...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tua_Pek_Kong
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Tua Pek Gong is the wealth god aspect of Tu Di Gong, the Earth Deity.

This is a reference to how the soil was the source of wealth for many people in ancient times, who were farming folk.

Each locale usually has its own Earth God, so there are many different Tua Pek Gongs.

The original Tua Pek Gong, Zhang Fu De, was the devoted elderly manservant of a rich family who was well known for his generosity and was deified after he saved his master's small daughter from freezing to death in a blizzard, losing his own life in the process.

Penang's Tua Pek Gong, although also named Zhang, is obviously not the same person.

He is *A* Tua Pek Gong, not *THE* Tua Pek Gong.

The Wiki article is therefore incomplete/incorrect, as it describes Tua Pek Gong as a single entity.
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post Jun 5 2016, 05:33 PM

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The small creatures whom are acting as footrests to the deities are presumably once evil creatures subdued by their patron deities , thus , acting as their subordinates to perform salvation to the masses.

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post Jun 5 2016, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(sales.convenience @ Jun 5 2016, 05:33 PM)
The small creatures whom are acting as footrests to the deities are presumably once evil creatures subdued by their patron deities , thus , acting as their subordinates to perform salvation to the masses.

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Everyone has a shot at redemption. wink.gif
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post Jun 5 2016, 08:03 PM

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Precisely ! This shatters the image of deities being fiercr and not. compassionate
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post Jun 6 2016, 01:12 AM

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heard news that a klang temple is holding it's big day soon any information , @nachtsider?
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post Jun 6 2016, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 1 2016, 10:51 PM)
Tua Pek Gong is the wealth god aspect of Tu Di Gong, the Earth Deity.

This is a reference to how the soil was the source of wealth for many people in ancient times, who were farming folk.

Each locale usually has its own Earth God, so there are many different Tua Pek Gongs.

The original Tua Pek Gong, Zhang Fu De, was the devoted elderly manservant of a rich family who was well known for his generosity and was deified after he saved his master's small daughter from freezing to death in a blizzard, losing his own life in the process.

Penang's Tua Pek Gong, although also named Zhang, is obviously not the same person.

He is *A* Tua Pek Gong, not *THE* Tua Pek Gong.

The Wiki article is therefore incomplete/incorrect, as it describes Tua Pek Gong as a single entity.
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Thanks. No wonder the image for both deities are similar. I like the *A* and *THE* explanations.

Once I witness a medium on trance with Tua Pek Kong. The devotees asked for toto numbers, think combination of six numbers. He replied that the results are "fixed". shocking.gif
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QUOTE(putra23 @ Jun 6 2016, 10:40 PM)
Thanks. No wonder the image for both deities are similar. I like the *A* and *THE* explanations.

Once I witness a medium on trance with Tua Pek Kong. The devotees asked for toto numbers, think combination of six numbers. He replied that the results are "fixed".  shocking.gif
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Of course the results are fixed. Does that revelation honestly surprise you? bangwall.gif

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