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tinarhian
post Mar 23 2016, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Mar 23 2016, 10:12 PM)
Carbs doesn't make you fat. In fact boiled potatoes are really helpful in weight loss diets, as they fill you up much faster and longer compared to meats.

You should instead be worried about carbs that come from more processed foods like breads, biscuits, pastries, cakes, etc. which not only perform poorly in filling you up, but are usually laced with plenty of added fats to make it taste better.

Bring in more measurability. For example, I can pin down 99% of what I eat in a day easily. I start off with a small pack of some silly non healthful wholegrain biscuit in the morning, purely because I'm too lazy to make anything and also it's pretty hectic.

Lunch, I have an adult salad by salad atelier. Mix of boiled potatos, a little spiral pasta, sweet potatoes, bell peppers, beetroot, chickpeas, chickpeas again (protein), avocado, dried strawberries. Dressing can be anything I like, usually lemon avocado.

Dinner if eating out sharing for two, I order fried/steamed tofu with some minced meat, rice, and a big plate of mixed vegetables. If alone I order mixed veg (with extra veg)  with minced meat (just a little) and rice.

An apple/orange/banana as dessert at night after dinner.

Beverages, plain green tea and water all day. Why waste my money on unworthy and unhealthy drinks, unless it's a cup of premium brewed cappuccino or wine or something.

I try to eat similar during the weekends, because health comes first. But I also feel comfortable gorging myself with ice cream and other worthy premium desserts or even going overboard on beer, because I know I'm covered for the rest of the week.

I don't really use the word alot because that's not measurable.  But I'm guessing here that my veg/plants consumption, while it most likely is not enough to meet standard physician/global guidelines, could already be higher than yours.

Keywords are increasing whole plant based foods, consistency, measurability, being specific, and satiety.
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Too much carbs can make you fat. Well, I eat less processed food except wurst. hehe..

I eat wholegrain oats / cereal for breakfast. I seldom drink coffee and tea.

Lunch I will have salad and / or beer. brows.gif

Dinner - vege, salmon, pasta, wine, etc.

How much is a lot anyway?

Damn dude, I'm not eating for competition. I just want to slim down so that I can wear my wedding dress. biggrin.gif

Thanks for the tip.
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post Mar 24 2016, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 23 2016, 11:06 PM)
Too much carbs can make you fat. Well, I eat less processed food except wurst. hehe..

I eat wholegrain oats / cereal for breakfast. I seldom drink coffee and tea.

Lunch I will have salad and / or beer.  brows.gif

Dinner - vege, salmon, pasta, wine, etc.

How much is a lot anyway?

Damn dude, I'm not eating for competition. I just want to slim down so that I can wear my wedding dress.  biggrin.gif

Thanks for the tip.
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Too much of anything could make you fat, lol. Higher carb consumption doesn't. It's a myth.

How about this. Just Google up dietary plans from these two organisations: American heart association, and also Precision Nutrition. You'll see where your diet varies compared to theirs, you don't have to take it from me smile.gif

This post has been edited by ripplezone: Mar 24 2016, 12:31 AM
tinarhian
post Mar 24 2016, 06:58 AM

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Mar 24 2016, 12:28 AM)
Too much of anything could make you fat, lol. Higher carb consumption doesn't. It's a myth.

How about this. Just Google up dietary plans from these two organisations: American heart association, and also Precision Nutrition. You'll see where your diet varies compared to theirs,  you don't have to take it from me smile.gif
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Is calorie counting also a myth? lol.

Well, if it works and doesn't affect my health, why not?

But I don't supplement like Herbalife, Shakeology, etc.
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post Mar 24 2016, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 24 2016, 06:58 AM)
Is calorie counting also a myth? lol.

Well, if it works and doesn't affect my health, why not?

But I don't supplement like Herbalife, Shakeology, etc.
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I also don't buy supplement like Herbalife or GNC etc. I rather use money to buy normal grocery and home cook the food. Those food is natural and no additional chemical inside as you are the one who prepare the food. Plus nowadays, salary don't rise as fast as price rise! Why should i spent money on those supplements?Is a big money burden for me. With minimum spending i still can achieve my ideal weight. Those supplement is not cheap.
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post Mar 24 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 24 2016, 06:58 AM)
Is calorie counting also a myth? lol.

Well, if it works and doesn't affect my health, why not?

But I don't supplement like Herbalife, Shakeology, etc.
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Calorie counting is not a myth per se. The general rule applies to most, with say 10% variance among people. But the practical applications can work for some, and it doesn't work for some.

Here's the problems related to calories counting:

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/problem-...ing-calories-in

And here's a much better way of doing it, portion sizing and forming new food choice habits

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/calorie-control-guide

What I'm trying to portray is, if you follow healthy eating guidelines and the guidance on how much plants, greens and fruits to eat per day, you probably don't even need to calorie count.
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post Mar 25 2016, 05:36 AM

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QUOTE(michellelimmy @ Mar 24 2016, 08:10 AM)
I also don't buy supplement like Herbalife or GNC etc. I rather use money to buy normal grocery and home cook the food. Those food is natural and no additional chemical inside as you are the one who prepare the food. Plus nowadays, salary don't rise as fast as price rise! Why should i spent money on those supplements?Is a big money burden for me. With minimum spending i still can achieve my ideal weight. Those supplement is not cheap.
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When I visited one of the village in Malaysia, I saw a lot skinny old people. I guess they burned more calories than they take in.

They too I think eat their own grown vegetable and stuff.

Supplement are for city kids and athletes. hehe...
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post Mar 25 2016, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Mar 24 2016, 08:43 AM)
Calorie counting is not a myth per se. The general rule applies to most, with say 10% variance among people. But the practical applications can work for some, and it doesn't work for some.

Here's the problems related to calories counting:

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/problem-...ing-calories-in

And here's a much better way of doing it, portion sizing and forming new food choice habits

http://www.precisionnutrition.com/calorie-control-guide

What I'm trying to portray is, if you follow healthy eating guidelines and the guidance on how much plants, greens and fruits to eat per day, you probably don't even need to calorie count.
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Nutrition Basics

I'm reducing my daily portion anyway. Starting to eat green beans. Ugh..

precision.com is a lean eating program that you have to sign up and pay. tongue.gif

My daily calorie intake is between 1500 - 2000.

My ratio is 40: 40 : 20 carbs to fat.


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post Mar 25 2016, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 25 2016, 05:49 AM)
Nutrition Basics

I'm reducing my daily portion anyway. Starting to eat green beans. Ugh..

precision.com is a lean eating program that you have to sign up and pay.  tongue.gif

My daily calorie intake is between 1500 - 2000.

My ratio is 40: 40 : 20 carbs to fat.
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Precision nutrition is a renowned service, just read their free blog to get more insight.

Why don't you follow something simpler:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsourc...y-eating-plate/

If you realise, precision nutrition and Harvard are promoting the same thing, ie forming new habits in food choices and portion sizing. The key difference between them is that the former uses your hands as a guide the latter uses a plate size.

This post has been edited by ripplezone: Mar 25 2016, 07:06 AM
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post Mar 25 2016, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 25 2016, 05:36 AM)
When I visited one of the village in Malaysia, I saw a lot skinny old people. I guess they burned more calories than they take in.

They too I think eat their own grown vegetable and stuff.

Supplement are for city kids and athletes. hehe...
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Last time is not a trend for big city working adult to follow the most natural way to slim down. However, lately this eating natural weight loss technique becoming popular again. No doubt those wealthy one will buy those supplement etc. People nowadays read more article on food safety. Supplements; even though seller do claim that it is safe to be consume; but until what extend is the safe to consume? How confident as a consumer will be after seeing Ministry of Health banned popular supplement after research or medical discovery years later?In big city, we can choose best among the worst in terms of food. While we can, choose more natural and organic food is one of the best choice. For those who don't wish to fork up tonnes of money for weight loss, eating natural food is the cheapest and safer way to loss weight.

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post Mar 25 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Mar 25 2016, 06:56 AM)
Precision nutrition is a renowned service, just read their free blog to get more insight.

Why don't you follow something simpler:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsourc...y-eating-plate/

If you realise, precision nutrition and Harvard are promoting the same thing, ie forming new habits in food choices and portion sizing. The key difference between them is that the former uses your hands as a guide  the latter uses a plate size.
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Oh ok, I thought they are MLM or something. hehe...

Oh yeah growing up I remember that food triangle chart thingy. My parents paste it on the fridge door. laugh.gif

Hey, once in a while I tried fasting as well. But I can't fast more than 4 hours. laugh.gif
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post Mar 25 2016, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(michellelimmy @ Mar 25 2016, 08:04 AM)
Last time is not a trend for big city working adult to follow the most natural way to slim down. However, lately this eating natural weight loss technique becoming popular again. No doubt those wealthy one will buy those supplement etc. People nowadays read more article on food safety. Supplements; even though seller do claim that it is safe to be consume; but until what extend is the safe to consume? How confident as a consumer will be after seeing Ministry of Health banned popular supplement after research or medical discovery years later?In big city, we can choose best among the worst in terms of food. While we can, choose more natural and organic food is one of the best choice. For those who don't wish to fork up tonnes of money for weight loss, eating natural food is the cheapest and safer way to loss weight.
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Even organic food and vege isn't cheap in Malaysia.

I've read that some rejected FDA supplements found its way in Malaysia, Thailand, etc...

Is that even true?
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post Mar 25 2016, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 25 2016, 05:57 PM)
Even organic food and vege isn't cheap in Malaysia.

I've read that some rejected FDA supplements found its way in Malaysia, Thailand, etc...

Is that even true?
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It depends on individual to consider between affordability and natural food. Maybe there's some way to optimize the choice. Maybe there's some conventional method to eliminate non organic food hazard before preparing foods.
Indeed there's some link of list of supplement banned by FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm188929.htm
Consumer most worry is that some unethical seller might repacking the banned products and renamed it to enable their products to sneak into country like Malaysia.
Just like what happened on foods produced by China. Fake eggs, fake milk powder, fake soy sauce etc.
Sometime no choice but to spend wisely and assume it is investment to health when buying more natural food. As you choose cheaper / processed food, end up in hospital for cancer or other sickness treatment is even not worth. Same goes with lost weight, should according to a person best ability and in healthy way to lost weight.

This post has been edited by michellelimmy: Mar 25 2016, 10:35 PM
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post Mar 26 2016, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(michellelimmy @ Mar 25 2016, 10:33 PM)
It depends on individual to consider between affordability and natural food. Maybe there's some way to optimize the choice. Maybe there's some conventional method to eliminate non organic food hazard before preparing foods.
Indeed there's some link of list of supplement banned by FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/Recalls/ucm188929.htm
Consumer most worry is that some unethical seller might repacking the banned products and renamed it to enable their products to sneak into country like Malaysia.
Just like what happened on foods produced by China. Fake eggs, fake milk powder, fake soy sauce etc.
Sometime no choice but to spend wisely and assume it is investment to health when buying more natural food. As you choose cheaper / processed food, end up in hospital for cancer or other sickness treatment is even not worth. Same goes with lost weight, should according to a person best ability and in healthy way to lost weight.
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Cool. Thanks.

I think its been ongoing for quite sometime now. Its just that maybe lacked of enforcement?

I can't believed when I saw China produced so many fake stuffs?

Did you know when one time I travelled to one of Shanghai's shopping mall, there's this secret backdoor in the shop that have many fake LV bags.

The travesty. shakehead.gif
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post Mar 27 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 26 2016, 12:50 PM)
Cool. Thanks.

I think its been ongoing for quite sometime now. Its just that maybe lacked of enforcement?

I can't believed when I saw China produced so many fake stuffs?

Did you know when one time I travelled to one of Shanghai's shopping mall, there's this secret backdoor in the shop that have many fake LV bags.

The travesty.  shakehead.gif
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Am I at the Weight Loss thread? Cannot understand this post.
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post Mar 27 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(New Klang @ Mar 27 2016, 06:55 PM)
Am I at the Weight Loss thread? Cannot understand this post.
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Sorry. hehe...

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Anyway, is it advisable to do chest bench press (with light dumbbells) on a proper bench (which I have) or can I do it on a exercise ball?

I like to do it on the exercise ball.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 27 2016, 10:35 PM)
Sorry. hehe...

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Anyway, is it advisable to do chest bench press (with light dumbbells) on a proper bench (which I have) or can I do it on a exercise ball?

I like to do it on the exercise ball.
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Then by all means, just do it on an exercise ball then lol. You should know the hazards anyway.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Mar 27 2016, 10:35 PM)
Sorry. hehe...

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Anyway, is it advisable to do chest bench press (with light dumbbells) on a proper bench (which I have) or can I do it on a exercise ball?

I like to do it on the exercise ball.
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I don't bench press so cannot comment.
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hi, got any recommendation for a good but not too pricey weighing machine tht hv accurate body fat % analysis too?
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QUOTE(Lurker @ Mar 28 2016, 10:54 PM)
hi, got any recommendation for a good but not too pricey weighing machine tht hv accurate body fat % analysis too?
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No such machine...the most accurate machine out there is through hydrostatic body fat testing...
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post Mar 28 2016, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Mar 28 2016, 11:29 PM)
No such machine...the most accurate machine out there is through hydrostatic body fat testing...
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To weigh in on the topic, I think ultrasound test might be the most accurate.

Anyway, Lurker, why do you need one? Is it important to you to have highly accurate measurements due to a sport or high performance activity or something? If not, anything would do, jist a good regular one, as the money is best spent elsewhere.

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