for around RM2k+ you can get:
USED
Canon 60D
Nikon D7000

all solid performer, particularly I've handled both 60D and D7000, they perform absolutely well especially when you pair it with quality lens.

NEW
Nikon D5200

If you buy New, I guess only D5200 fits the bill. Or there's any other DSLR choices at the same price range?

Disclaimer:
Buy new, you get full warranty covered. Bonus - you get the feel of unboxing and sniffing that out of box smell.
Buy used, you get high performance stuff at cheaper price. Sometimes you can even get stuff that still under warranty.

New or Used, it's up to you to decide. If I were in your shoes, I'd choose used because 60D/D7000 simply outperform any new DSLR at that price.

Dude, someone must be sold you a shiat and gone missing.

I feel you bro but you can't go around accusing everyone being the same.

You've been kind trying to warn TS about the potential issue if buying used but instead of telling him EVERYONE is selling junk as 2nd hand, why don't you tell him the pros and cons of buying new and let him decide for himself. I'm pretty sure TS will spend his/her time to study more because in the end he himself will be the one paying for the product.

You keep saying people selling broken junk for other ppl, indeed there are a-holes like that around, just be careful. But in many cases, people letting go their stuff as 2nd hand just because they no longer need the stuff, or they are trying to funding for new stuff.

Painting one's mind only with pros OR cons will just blindly lead him.

As said, if want to attack/insult me, held the full responsibilities on your statement. If can't, don't insult on my integrity as only people that have intention to cheat will use such low quality attack to attack.

don't reply like this la, later he feels insecure and thinking that you insulted him again. you know you must be responsible for the used items that TS bought if he followed your advice but not the 2nd hand item seller? *sarcasm*

actually i purposely want to choose dslr can be use as my hobby and learn more + assignment for my college

tested ..... quite satisfy

that is what im thinking exactly right now !!!

btw can you explain briefly about what kind of condition is consider good as a used camera ?

unboxing feel is the best feeling ever .....smell of new stuff superb~~~

for me i will also choose the used.....

To be frank, mirrorless are nice to use with. The image quality is same with DSLR (they share the same size sensor). Nice screen and lightweight. Plus you get higher frame rate per price. Sony a6000 kit has the ability of 11FPS and only costs you for RM2699 (Street price is much cheaper), while the buffer not large enough for you to do that for a long time, but it has edge compared to those 700D or D5300.

The feature sets are the same, except that it is a lightweight package. You will appreciate the mobility a lot. You no longer need to carry a heavy brick on your shoulder. You still can learn with mirrorless because they have so much of similarities (in fact I can say the same!).

The only drawback is the choice of lenses. The native lenses of mirrorless still remain lacking when you compare to long lived DSLR setup, but adapter is available for you to use DSLR lenses. So, you have both mirrorless and DSLR lenses in the arsenal to choose with.

This post has been edited by kingkingyyk: Dec 30 2014, 01:00 PM

You talk about integrity and insults when you insulted the entire community. I am just standing up for those you blanket labelled as people of I'll-intent.

Hello

I bought an used 350D from goldfries, dunno how many years already.
And there's problem with the sensor (light leak or something else)

And he received it back and refund the money fully to me without question.

Before you start labeling people here selling second hand item with ill-intent, look at yourself on the mirror first yea.

PS:350D is the very first DSLR I got on my hand when I started photography; second hand also and bought it from Viking bro.

Well basic things you need to take note is (i might missed out some)
DSLR
- shutter count
- is there dust on the sensors
- cosmetics (rubber grip etc)
- external flash mount & internal flash
- functions of camera buttons

LENS
- any fungus, dust on lens elements
- AF function is it working properly? Any back/front focus issue
- cosmetics

Mirrorless is the one to go for if you would want to have DSLR quality image while on vacation. Light, small and easy to set up.
Planning to get one myself coz getting my DSLR is very troublesome if I'm always on the move

later that guy thinks you are just another account of goldfries

LOL, if that happen i go buy damacai.
Today got spesial draw. wahahahah

Mirrorless also can attach DSLR lens, Nikon already have this. But need to do conversion
Since you are getting second hand, have you asked the Nikon Center's guy on what to look for? Like what is the typical problem for D7000 when is send back to them.
6th floor have 2 used D7000 for sale, can have a check, test kaw kaw before buy(ensure to have Nikon Malaysia's warranty card). Do not go to Lowyat Plaza as some of them are selling grey sets regardless of new or used(info from Nikon Center).

Yup, you are right, you attacked me as I may able to spoil you rice bowl. If you keep quiet and do not ask your gang to attack me, you will lose.

So many supporter but not a single fellow willing to back on TS's needs
I smell fish here.

Mirrorless still don't have proper OVF
Buy both instead

depends actually, EVF takes some time to get used but it's not that bad compared to OVF, especially in magnification and coverage.

you have to ON your camera to use EVF. kacau wan, I prefer OVF.

well anyway EVF these days are pretty good.

LOL. my rice bowl. LOL. you think a mere post like yours could spoil my rice bowl? Haha, joke of the day.

No dude, you threw the first punch and threw it at the community, I'm just defending the community. Very simple. Rice bowl not involved.

LOL now about win or lose?

Where got like that wan?

1. It's actually very simple, it's not GANG. It's the community, they're all part of the community who actually understands what they're talking about.

2. People just have good counter argument against what you claimed.

After so many pages, you are still using the same way with the middle more and more seconders joining in.
Still until now nobody dare to held responsible but keep on bring up other nonsense.
You and you gang's intention are known.

@imnick, so what camera u bought ar?