Are you encouraging him to target the lady?

I am still trying to understand his mindset.

Is time for him to prove his love to his gf.

So when are you getting married BBW? After GST and buying the house?

I must play fair to him ma since I am so new at here. You guys are kaki lama of him.

So where is your target for your own stay actually? What are your requirements in your actual home?


You have facts I agree but how come you will factor in credit card as part of deposit for DP?????????

So after all, all you want is to prove that the prop market is not as good as it is and showing lethargic performance? Or you are trying to educate all flippers here and sending warm reminder to all genuine buyer like myself? I am confuse with your objective.

If this forum is flooded with more flippers as you claimed, so be it. If flippers are trying to defend their standpoints, so be it. You ain't going to gain anything from them since you should already know how to play in this game.

Secondly, if the market is full of inflated properties, the longer you wait, the more you need to pay as mentioned by your goodself. From era to era there are always flippers. Just that those days flippers are more loaded compared to now as a result of DIBS and low DP and flip after construction. That's why I said earlier, those who swim in naked shall revealed themselves in 2016-2018 where the last phase of DIBS prop are completed. However, you should not forget about the prop investor club who buy in bulk from developer and in return, the discount given by developer is already a twisted DIBS. Meaning to say that, nothing much you can do as a genuine buyer. Is either you get f***ed now by few or get gang bang by more in future.

2016-2018 is also crucial because of the GE, 2020 vision and completion of LRT/MRT projects. A lot of uncertainties and you must not forget about the tired bullish KLCI in the past 7 years. The norm is every 10 years a crush but foresee that it will come earlier in next round due to currency war and slump in oil price.

Even if there is a crush in prop market due to bearish stock market performance (which is very likely to happen soon), those flippers who feel the heat will have to let go their unit faster. When that is happening, the price of the prop won't go down much as you wish. We are not a country doing QE because Bolehland is not as influential as USA or Japan hence things will get worse if we are doing QE. Cheaper RM will leads to poorer export and increase in cost of import. More foreigners will flock in to grab our land. Just like what China is doing on other countries like USA, British. When that happened, do you think we are still able to buy a cheap prop? And when there is a crush meaning many are out of job. If you have cash I believe you will also hold it unless your have plenty. From this flood disaster our gonlanment not even dare to declare darurat with the given excuse of takut the insurance buyers are unable to claim their insurance from the insurance companies. A total crap because the gonlanment ain't have enough money to give out. Majority of the victims are believed without flood insurance and this flood is unexpected.

After GST, your miscellaneous fees i.e. legal fees will be taxable but still within your reach. I think your strategy is to go for subsale hence GST or not are not really your concern because it is more applicable on new launch. However, to me it is not so right when you are financially ready but still waiting for market to crush or bubble to burst in order for you to grab the "cheapest" prop.

None of us can predict when the bubble is going to burst but for sure the prop market is softening and leave a better room for bargain. Simply because supply > demand. That's it. And things won't be right when your next door uncle aunty also telling you the prop market is doing good. That means the doom day is near.

I might be wrong and humble to take any comment.

This post has been edited by JasonW13: Dec 28 2014, 10:57 PM

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If this forum is flooded with more flippers as you claimed, so be it. If flippers are trying to defend their standpoints, so be it. You ain't going to gain anything from them since you should already know how to play in this game.

oh you are now a flipper revealed? flippers are more in this forum is still "if" look the property talk section all owners talking and observing price meh? I dun understand, if there are ppl talking about bubble this is right should be the right channel just in case you have forgotten that you are in bubble talk no in property increase talk, this piece of advise should go the the flippers isn't?

Secondly, if the market is full of inflated properties, the longer you wait, the more you need to pay as mentioned by your goodself. From era to era there are always flippers. Just that those days flippers are more loaded compared to now as a result of DIBS and low DP and flip after construction. That's why I said earlier, those who swim in naked shall revealed themselves in 2016-2018 where the last phase of DIBS prop are completed. However, you should not forget about the prop investor club who buy in bulk from developer and in return, the discount given by developer is already a twisted DIBS. Meaning to say that, nothing much you can do as a genuine buyer. Is either you get f***ed now by few or get gang bang by more in future.

ceh like this need you come pull the show meh? those are the ones the flippers says one... hello by what the flippers said, any time grab new properties and wait can get 30-40% increase already maa..o0o

u confirm flipper mentality, bigger organisation like investment clubs are like developers... they are not there to hold properties and not selling it, they need money to roll.. you bang and f***ed up theory is only provided property price keep surging with demands along side to cater lar kid... no demand u sendiri hao lian increase got kam lan use, hello flippers/investors clubs put in more to earn more money not to put money and more to cost of holding and hope to sell at non demand able prices , wake up lar... the mass supplies are targetting who? really 26 years old flipper wanna be wasted my time

2016-2018 is also crucial because of the GE, 2020 vision and completion of LRT/MRT projects. A lot of uncertainties and you must not forget about the tired bullish KLCI in the past 7 years. The norm is every 10 years a crush but foresee that it will come earlier in next round due to currency war and slump in oil price.

uncertainties sway benefit of doubt to property being BBB? mana you graduate?

Even if there is a crush in prop market due to bearish stock market performance (which is very likely to happen soon), those flippers who feel the heat will have to let go their unit faster. When that is happening, the price of the prop won't go down much as you wish. We are not a country doing QE because Bolehland is not as influential as USA or Japan hence things will get worse if we are doing QE. Cheaper RM will leads to poorer export and increase in cost of import. More foreigners will flock in to grab our land. Just like what China is doing on other countries like USA, British. When that happened, do you think we are still able to buy a cheap prop? Our gonlanment not even dare to declare darurat with the given excuse of takut the insurance buyers are unable to claim their insurance from the insurance companies. A total crap because the gonlanment ain't have enough money to give out. Majority of the victims are believed without flood insurance and this flood is unexpected.

preety amazed, property can only go up? and flippers can hold eternity? o0o pain listening leh.. you are the 1st home buyers as claimed but the way it looks and seems more in flippers and property confirm naik type ... we crashed before in bkt beruntung still 20k per unit or even less... fail investors in KV areas will share their failure meh?

After GST, your miscellaneous fees i.e. legal fees will be taxable but still within your reach. I think your strategy is to go for subsale hence GST or not are not really your concern because it is more applicable on new launch. However, to me it is not so right when you are financially ready but still waiting for market to crush or bubble to burst in order for you to grab the "cheapest" prop.

wah lan then buy the inflated market kam lan? 4 more months subsales market pool of buyers shrinks not drop then wait what? you go and buy one inflated prop now and show proof so I can check you talk o0o or not.. talk one pattern, buy another flipper, BBB here never even touch 600k high-rise this year.. dead market . typical flippers advise, big turn around, accept inflated price and buy?

None of us can predict when the bubble is going to burst but for sure the prop market is softening and leave a better room for bargain. Simply because supply > demand. That's it. And things won't be right when your next door uncle aunty also telling you the prop market is doing good. That means the doom day is near.

first of all I will wave o0o o0o o0o to you first, whole statement contradicts whole things you spouted... up there you say one will defiantely get screwed just will get banged if wait longer, this does not mean property price ill only go up? when you predict confirm go up now you say it is uncertain? nah o0o, the factors are pushing downwards, that is waht I based on, you are the one predicing it will only go up.. see the pain o0o or not? talk cock flippers same BBB pack lapsap

and you are damm fking wrong, talk whole world come back square one accept inflated prop , buyer early or get screwed or banged later.. then spout it is uncertain to predict but prop price going up is sure... so sure buy one unit of 700k condo new launch to see and proof.. talk cock o0o

WASTING MY TIME, I charge in hours o0o

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I am just telling you there is nothing you can do. If you continue to wait you are likely to get more damage later. If this statement is claimed to pro flipper, then there is nothing much i can say. Ya in overall I am telling you to buy now while you still can. Unless you are able to wait til 2018 to witness that moment. I didn't ask you to buy before GST but you should be finalizing your area of choice and keep watching it closely for any vacant unit up for sale. Confirmed after GST you are paying more and not necessary you get better deal because sellers can still withhold their pricing yet RPGT is dropping as the prop is another year older where 2015 is another new year. Likely price gonna be stagnant at there but not going up fast like 10% per year from 2011-2014. Still it is increasing slowly. When there is no demand, the price won't decline tremendously overnight also right? It will takes a few months at least to cool down. Question is how long can you wait?

And btw, you don't need 100 people to form a prop investor club. As long as at one go a club is buying more than 50 units from the developer then is deemed as group buy already. You can have different groups to buy from the same developer under the same project.

Lastly for tonight, pls don't relate age to maturity and income. That's quite sick of you.

Green Terrain RM 580K also got

BBW,

Sorry for keeping you waiting. Here come the proof of me applied Pr1ma. For anyone who has done that, should know that this is the landing page where user can tender bid for the available and interested property.



This post has been edited by JasonW13: Dec 29 2014, 03:40 PM

Which part am I trolling you? You are buying for own stay what. Same as me. [COLOR=blue]

This post has been edited by JasonW13: Dec 29 2014, 02:22 PM

Bro ABC can you educate me a bit more on this? Would like to learn more. Thanks!

BBW don't siam away. I have showed to you my application for Pr1ma. What you got there? I am also waiting for your explanation on which part am I trolling you?

BBW, don't mean to be harsh on you. What if, I say what if la next year you are able to get your dream property but then your lawyer GF decided to end this relationship with you due to whatsoever reason. What are you going to do with your property and also its repayment?

I wonder how old is his GF???

Uncertainties are confirmed what bro. Property price will climb up slowly like a snail if not stagnant at there based on the trend. You know that well also what right? Of course not all areas can be generalized in the same way. Parklane OUG is still RM 400K after so long.

BBW I think you are the coolest person whom I met in 2014. Looking forward to continue blowing water with you in 2015.

I understand on both but your explanations a bit confusing me esp on the RM 8.8K part. Ya I am only 26 and still new.

GF already got 2 apartments and 1 condo? wow...

Tug of war between the holding power of owner and patience of buyer.

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