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 V17 Property Bubble (Is there a bubble at all ?), Property Inflated or Inflation ?

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JasonW13
post Jan 2 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Jan 2 2015, 10:34 PM)
Erm I dono , each project is difference geh..if existing sales gallery is near u , u can try there first. If really interested then u can ask your agent intro owner to u n tag along. Sometimes agent not willing intro owner because scare u sabotage him ma, u must very honest n play fair with agent lo I think he will understand the situation.
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Ok. Will start somewhere following your advice! Once again tqvm! notworthy.gif
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post Jan 3 2015, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Jan 3 2015, 01:46 PM)
I not sure if bbw know what is ctos apart from ccris. Bbw belum show us his ctos yet.
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Boss Tiger, CTOS is not as reliable as CCRIS based on what I understand. CTOS (private own) vs CCRIS (BNM).


QUOTE(jolokia @ Jan 3 2015, 01:53 PM)
I told him 1/6 nett income can buy a house already, he sibeh bo song me, ask me hantam till max, don't understand him ?? we buy what we can afford mah ! we have other things to take care off in our life also, everything must put into property meh !

Also depends can find the property we like mah ! buta2 whack meh !

Now I understand why he always mentioned average & mean income of Malaysia as a whole, his income is at that range. .kekeke

Very difficult for him to imagine anyone younger but make better income than him, because he thought he is already the best among his little circle...

Ah Bear mileage claim where can add into official income, your 4.5K nett mean you should buy something like Mahkota Residence, Pearl Avenue or OUG Parklane niah, anything higher you'll be very suffer leh, later married a lot of unforseen expenditure one.

Since you like Kajang so much buy loh ! Sg Chua close to highway mah ! your income can never beat the momentum of property price keh ! buy before price run away again.

Somemore close to your PAMA house mah, can go back stick eat stick drink...lol

Ah Bear you got fill in Borang B before ah ? BTW guy nowadays what is the minimum income need to pay tax ah ? 4.5K nett need to pay tax or not ? Mileage claim not inside EA form right ?
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4.5K nett per month need to pay tax confirmed. My start up salary already kena tax.

RM2k++ allowance depending on accounting matrix of his company. Mostly will be included under EA. Mileage is not but staff benefits yes. Some staff benefits are taxable n some are not. For example for my employer, optical care (staff benefit) is taxable. vmad.gif


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post Jan 3 2015, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jan 3 2015, 02:06 PM)
Haven't found a relative or family member willing to borrow him the form yet la.......  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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The 18th epic quote has been added! Your shadow thread is getting longer n longer.....


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 3 2015, 02:09 PM)
krandun... no need to talk.. how much you really worth ppl know one... who EA is it?

26 can get 10k++? as salary.. oil & gas also cannot, sumore chinese ed are never made into oil & gas
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If one joined O&G at age 21-22, after 4 years of fighting, it is possible. Disagree on the Cina portion. Ratio could be 7 Bumi :2 Cina :1 Indian. Just like PBB 7Cina:2Bumi:1 Indian or CIMB/MBB 6:3:1. Need to find lubang and pass the assessment.
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post Jan 3 2015, 10:54 PM

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HI BBW,

On your question earlier on how to get higher credit limit, I will give you a few examples how to do it.

Short Term Quick Fix
1. Dump in huge FD and show together with your EPF and other legal income.

Medium Term Game Plan
1. For a start, randomly take up a credit card from any bank. Build your good payment record. Pay on time, in full.
2. Pump in some cash in FD and request to push up the limit temporarily. Reason can be overseas spending.
3. Continue to do Step 2 a few more times but with a time interval. Continue to be good paymaster.
4. Request for permanent increase in limit. Threaten to change bank if demand is not being considered.

Long Term Solution
1. Work hard to earn the money with pride.
2. Take up a card, pay on time in full.
3. Show to Bank and request for higher limit.

Of course you can have other ways to do it for example a recommend letter from someone who is influential, yourself is an icon, a sub-card and so on....

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post Jan 4 2015, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 3 2015, 11:47 PM)
so which category you think I am? just applied in 2013/2014
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I dunno and i am not interested to find out. High credit limit doesn't really hhelp in evaluating ur repayment capabilities in view that credit card is spending bank's money n repay later.
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post Jan 4 2015, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 3 2015, 11:48 PM)
21-22, well, that could be a rare one..

but lets post question more clearly... do you think krandun based on his appearance in LYN suffice or that lucky to get so?

he say 28..and get a studio..

well since he say got 3 properties.. one of ccris report need to have 200k loan, minimum 3 properties ccris reading, 200k loan ccris should be registered in 2012..

by tallying 2 digits of his IC since he tell everybody he is 28 and the CCRIS report 2 digit numbers... together with 3 other loans at least, one of it need be around 200k and registered in 2012 as he bought the studio by then

if all these tally. then we know is he lyinng or not...

well ,nevertheless, studio is a wrong ting to begin with...
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Abang, 21~22 is normal nowadays. However working exp is more important.

Unable to understand ur english well. What's the 200k thingy?
28 for studio is normal. Why studio is based on personal preferences.

28 for 3 properties r absolutely fine. Two of my friends who r in their 28~30 did the same but they opt for properties below rm300k which has better investment return. They buy n keep n rented out at reasonable price with acceptable rental yields. They also hav own stay properties.

Lately i hv feeling of regret for born late to buy a reasonable priced house but not too late to learn more properties.
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post Jan 4 2015, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 12:30 AM)
huh always trying to be funny in LYN... to DDD...

I wont help the property market to gain momentum either  thumbup.gifw
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I am funny? Y? To DDD? Implying on what? R u drunk or on sleeping pill?
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post Jan 4 2015, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 12:41 AM)
21-22, graduated di or not? no degree and working experience?

front door minimum requirement also cannot in.. dun go and teach young ppl these things..

this kind of big bend 21-22, possible if join oil & gas also you can digest.. lol

if there are so "many" no need to see slow down in property market lor.. this so general and simple to think also you cant think...

joker said he bought a studio worth 200k , that is 2 years ago.. and it is his 3rd property.. so CCRIS report should reflect a registered entry on 2012 indicating a 3rd property with loan of 200k .. right or not?

seldom studio buyers are here to give advise for ppl to buy and take that as an achievement..

you are trying seriously funny and over above a 1st home buyer..
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Hahaha, u must hv forgotten there is this thing called advancement of grade or PTS at standard 3. Then U can also take foundation course instead of Form6 n a 3years uni course then one could graduate at the age of 21~22. I dont blame u because it has been a long time for u to b away from university. N btw, overseas grad r usually aged around 21~22 too. I hv doubt on ur foreign grad disclaimer now.

Who is funnier now? A first time home buyer who is in his 30's n clean ccris or a 26 yo first time home buyer with ccris good repayment record? Sorry i wont show u my records because no point to argue over u or to prove that i am better than u etc. V r in diff leagues anyway. I do admire u on ur intense knowledge but not entirely. Personalities i dont to hv say much because is in the eyes of readers.

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post Jan 4 2015, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 12:47 AM)
the CCRIS reading is for what?

trying to be funny again? the ccris do not just reflect the loans/commitments/credit cards one has..

it also show the promptness of ones ability to loan servicing/debt repayment...

high score in CCRIS will be able to borrow loans?

CCRIS can also show how over leveraged one is...

u cant be dunno about this? the BBB had bragged on how good the properties and etc.. CCRIS also has the entry dates for such loan to be registered ... they said they had bought on XXXX years right?

let me guess, you are not interested in other ppl CCRIS, your own CCRIS leh? no property right?
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Abang, i was referring to credit card limit la..seriously do u read?

Ccris is important to indicate if one is good paymaster or not. Footstop. Repayment capabilities n commitment, is about DSR.

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post Jan 4 2015, 01:04 AM

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Bbw, put ur Fd under my name for better fd rate since i am a bank staff lol... If not i dont mind sharing with u on which share to buy n make some pocket money. I am not greedy but just investing with cautious.

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post Jan 4 2015, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:02 AM)
another hard bend... lol krandun now is PTS product, join foundation, then graduated around 21-22, then got oil and gas offer, and then got 10k+ by 26, and get 2 properties before 26, and got the 3rd by a studio worth 200k, married at 26.. calculating krandun by 28, he would have been very lucky coz it will the 1st year of introduction of PTS...

then left with talk only... ur ccris are yet to be clean , that is only you talking maybe score very high that y cannot buy house izzit? I am sensing you are here to support the BBB group, like showtime747 di, masqueraded as DDD but is a BBB from the start.. lol

I also admire you to have know RPGT reduction as time goes by on behalf of investors and forget the cost of the same to main a RPGT drop...I also do admire a 26 year kid to have know more than..
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I dunno about kradun but sharing on possibilities one can grad at age 21~22.

Bro dont admire my cock. I am not interested in ur ass either. Lol.

I am still waiting for ur advice on RPGT vs Base Rate vs Holding Power.

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post Jan 4 2015, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:05 AM)
you dun have abilities to pay... how be a good paymaster? CCRIS reading is one of the documents not easily available and often the best bench mark surpassing slow CTOS system for banks to give out loan on top of the salary and etc factors..
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Abang, those zero zeroes on ccris is proving what then? U takut digit 1,2,3 or more only what right? Zero meaning u pay on time right? Hw come ur ccris is clean when u r credit card? IF u pay on time in full ur credit card should b showing zero in ccris right?

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:07 AM)
lol , you can start asking from the BBB they had alot...

U love investing join the investment link.. lot what..
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Why? U sell iinvestment linked insurance as part timer is it?
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:10 AM)
izzit? cant we just get a piece after GST?
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ABang, already told u all miscellaneous fees will naik harga ma..only kangkung wont after gst..


QUOTE(kradun @ Jan 4 2015, 01:10 AM)
bear2 very hard to tell u as u never listen to people..

28 is fact.  brows.gif
u forgot i told u bought studio in feb'14?
u forgot after bought studio in feb'14 got 3?
u forgot i attached stamp duty for spa and loan for studio?

u memory so bad let u see liao u also wont remember la..  brows.gif
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forgive him la..that's the typical bbw what.

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:11 AM)
that day already given illustration di, go and dig it up and then ask... want me to help you, but dont want do anyting?

lazy bankers? tell you what, you wont make it to branch maanger
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U asked me to search it by myself. I did n failed hence come back to ask for ur enlightenment with a humble heart what. COme come.
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:11 AM)
that day already given illustration di, go and dig it up and then ask... want me to help you, but dont want do anyting?

lazy bankers? tell you what, you wont make it to branch maanger
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Lazy banker? Hmm that's new to me. Branch manager? They r my peers but i am nt a branch manager. FOR U i must work harder to b a head in risk mgmt dept or investment dept.
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QUOTE(musteng @ Jan 4 2015, 01:22 AM)
I can see showtime, jason & TS given the points on BBB (They still haven't give up on you).
Your points on DDD
Iceman with cursing only.
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Wa i am nv on par with showtime or TS. Ayam just supporting BBB since is for own stay anyway. If u want to flip flip flip then good luck in more challenging operating market with harsher gov intervention in prop market to curb bubble, lesser transactions but higher transacted value.

I stay here for BBW only. HE will nv walks alone.
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:28 AM)
they ar enot your peers, your superiors lol, but all same product same quality .. bankers got quality one?
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Seriously r u able to differentiate meaning of
1. Subordinate?
2. Peer?
3. Superior?

Eh mr lawyer dont play play la.

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:30 AM)
and he worries ppl paying more after GST? lol ppl dunno one? all buyers so blind one? then easy trget for you all what, should not be seeing slow down in property what...
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OverSupply〉genuine demand coupled with inethical PA n agencies r cause of rising price.


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post Jan 4 2015, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:38 AM)
d) this flipper mentality really kns, ah kid yes one year waiting of course RPGT may drop from 30% to lower to 20% yes 10% drop, subsequent years are only 5% lehh. asssuming a property is made of 500k, 10% dp, 35 years max stretch, that is servicing 2.2k loan and 200+ maintenance, totoal plus inking and etc, that is 2.5k per month
2.5k per month x12 months = 28.8k

from 500k property like Jliew Midfields flip to 700k , 200k gross profit

30% from 200k = 60k
20% from 200k = 40k
[color=red]from 3 year holding to 4th year difference to pay RPGT is less 20k, you service loans and maaintenance is 28.8k, knn still rugi 8.8k, see you are a real flipper... and 26 year old kid mentality, only know to think one way .. oh PRGT drop..

Can any Sifu educate me on this portion? I hav little knowledge on this. Thanks.[COLOR=blue]
hello 5th year drops 5% how? still service 28.8k leh, sumore need to assumed flippers get the best rates of BLR, well sumore have to assume it is stagnant OPR leh o0o.. sumore the cost push into the new flip price say 700k + 28.8k gets valuation leh.. 2 years already 60k increase... valuation getting further, more ppl need to pump deposit leh.. 10% also susah want more? market now is 20% at least for inflated props

and most important thing 700k need to have takers, 600k plus new launch low entry also no takers 700k subsales? need you teach or not kid?

so after the above, you deserve to really self wave or not? please wave, if property price really surge , my parents lands also surge lar o0o, even I think they are not deserving but compared to jokers 1ksq vs 40k sq space..
kid o0o, come talk with us? this is version 17, these tings already been hit in and out larr the BBB has no choice but to troll you see... you also same flippers knn
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Abang, ayam asking u on RPGT vs Base Rate vs Holding Power since u related them all tgt what.
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:39 AM)
since you know this, what is the rush to buy before GST?
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If u managed to find desired house at an affordable price but maybe is a bit inflated, will u wait until people snap it away from u or u r confident that the unit will b waiting for u n doom day of prop market to favor u? U r buying subsale right? That's the pain that u can't avoid right?


QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:40 AM)
really a lot of muka tak layak.. bumi category we exclude, the cina group dunno why sure somehwere some place link back to UTAR  doh.gif
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U sendiri brought up Utar matter n kena diao kao kao for more than two pages i think.
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post Jan 4 2015, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:42 AM)
i got say base rate?
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U r very thick face n good at mixing things up.

U were the one that asked me to dig more by myself on RPGT vs BR vs Holding Power.

If i hv time tmr i will dig out n quote in here.
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post Jan 4 2015, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Jan 4 2015, 01:53 AM)
spotted and yet to be sold since last year.. good or not ?

by the way, U asking ppl buy plan even a little bit inflated, maybe you can buy first... and show a good example? you not going to show anything , then just talk? salive also precious leh

but UTAR ppl are like that what... English in any mode sure koyak.. BM 3-4 kati most of them... the few creams are forced to stduy due to financial background..
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Then let's c if u will get one after gst or not. Like i mentioned to u i will get one by this year. Just yet to spot a desired one.

Abang, u as a lawyer who graduated from foreign uni, nv able to understand and write in proper english too. What's makes u think that u r superior than others?

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