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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V66, Jerkyy Dong Dong Chiang

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Eugene91
post Jan 8 2015, 01:55 PM

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How's the grip and noise compared to PerakStone?
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 8 2015, 02:55 PM)
How's the grip and noise compared to PerakStone?
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anyone should know that any other than PerakStone is good. AFAIK, on my non car guy term, CD2 is on Level 2. Level 1 to me is entry level tyre such as Ducaro, Duraplus, NCT5.
if want review about CD2, can go to tyre thread. there's lot's of discussions about tyres until rclxub.gif
tyre usage is subjective due to buttfeel difference.

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post Jan 8 2015, 03:05 PM

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NEW INFO added. n3w When you go for your next oil change try to see or ask which is the filler hole. I have a feeling that Proton is using the ball detent bolt as a filler hole but in actual our filler hole is at the bottom of the gearbox that has a Torx head. I will be doing my 2nd gear change at 50K mileage.
QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 7 2015, 02:24 PM)
Lately I have been posting very less and being quiet because was busy with my wife and my new baby boy at the confinement center and fetching my daughter on weekends.

And on weekdays I'm alone at home with boring nights so I went and dig, read and did some RnD and information digging on our FLX Getrag gearbox. On the car user manual the gearbox is called 5MTT200A I've tried to Google more info with this name but it come out with information that was only surface and not deep enough or have any technical use at all. I've been digging for 1 month plus and its not complete yet.

Why did I went digging so deep? It started when I wanted to loate the filler hole for the gearbox since I wanted to try and change the transmission fluid myself. The information for the gearbox oil was also very sacred as the bottle from Proton only stated Geatrag gear oil.

So far these are the information that I've gathered across the globe and I might be wrong and hopefully these information can be useful in the future and I will continue to search for it and add in when I have the time.

Did you know?
1. 5MTT200A is very very similar to IB5 transmission. IB5 is a gearbox produced by Getrag Ford.
2. IB5 is an improved version of BC Series transmission from Ford.
3. IB5 was introduced in 1995 and was 1st used in the Mk4. Fiesta. (Source: wiki)
4. Some 5 speed manual Ford model is using the IB5 gearbox
5. The current Ford model that still uses the IB5 is the Ford Focus 1.4,1.6 and 1.8 (but might have a different transmission case and rear cover.

6. The IB5 transmission was under production in Europe for more than 30 years, and is localized in China since 2006 and re-named B5A mainly supplied to Ford China, and is widely used for Ford Ka, FIAT, Fusion, Focus, Fiesta, MG Rover; Etc. Synchronizers are applied for all forward speed gears, a dual synchronizer ring is incorporated.
The transmission has five forward speeds and one reverse speed. Synchronizers are adopted to all speeds. The 2ND speed is dual cone synchronizer. The differential and the transmission are designed into integration.

7. IB5 for some FORD model have the same gear ratio as our FLX except for the Final drive being 4.067 or 4.267
http://www.gasgoo.com/showroom/michael0317...ts/1510084.html

8. Our FLX has a ball detent at the gear linkage at the transmission. This ball detent maybe can be upgrade to stronger unit from Fiesta MK6 ST but might need to drill and re-thread to fit. (most right is MK6 ST ball detent.
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9. Quaife has a 5 speed sequential gear kit for IB5 maybe can fit to our FLX as the clutch/bell housing is same.
http://shop.quaife.co.uk/ford-ib5-5-speed-sequential-gearkit


10. The gear oil:
The user manual says its a Castrol BOT130M but no specs written on manual even on bottle. It is actually a SAE 75W90 API Gl-4 Synthetic gear oil. I got this information from Rover Forum.

11. Ford Puma's 3rd, 4th, 5th is the same as ours and final drive is wee bit different. Ford Puma Racing is using the 3.82 Final drive so our final drive could be a very strong one. 
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12. This is a gearbox picture from a Ford Focus 5 speed manual...The linkage area is 90% same as our FLX. I still need to double check again if I can find the filler hole (circled yellow) on top of the ball detent circle in red. The green circle highlights the shifting mechanism.

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ADDED..8th Jan 2015 Actual Saga FLX gear linkage mechanism area (Transmission Case). Here is the picture of the Trans case from my FLX as you can see and refer to above Ford Focus picture...There's minor differences on the linkage ends and on the FLX it is missing the filler plug which is on top of the ball detent that you an see on the Focus.
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13. Break down parts no of the Getrag gearbox which some didn't some on the spare part list while some have.
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14. Our FLX transmission is separated into 3 parts. clutch/Bell housing -->transmission case-->rear cover. All the gears are in the transmission case.

15. Ford Focus LX gear shift at console.....macam macam like our FLX. I can't find back my FLX gear shift link at console. 
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16. Maybe FLX clutch set can use from FORD for IB5 transmission...just MAYBE....

17. How to fix the loose collet at the shifting mechanism. This is on a Ford Focus but I've seen out shift linkage and it's very much the same.


Above are all the information that I've gathered are from various sources such as Ford forum, MG forum, Ford Puma forum, Focus forum youtube, Google...etc...All credits goes to original contributors.

I'm very sure that the IB5 shares a lot of common things with our 5MTT and since the gearbox is not new the differences that we see if the continuous changes over time be it on the transmission case, or the bell housing but the base of it is still very same or similar to each other. I wish there will be other forummer who can chip in to help gather more information as it will be useful for all MT owners.

If my information are wrong please forgive me...My eyes are so tired browsing through 20+ tabs on Chrome
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post Jan 8 2015, 04:10 PM

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http://www.fuelly.com/car/Proton/Saga/2010...912/log/7768011

Continue reporting back on Super4. Despite this week traffic had gone crazy, probably everybody thought already start school. Stuck in LDP jam. Also went through tough time when grandmother in law passed away had to go to Jln Dewan Bahasa for 3 days, and on the 3rd had to went through an ultra slow driving + on the ceremony doh.gif Still clocked 11km. Call me placebo, I can't even believe I got see wrong anot blink.gif
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QUOTE(n3w @ Jan 7 2015, 09:55 PM)
Pic of car with rim kompang mana?  rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 8 2015, 04:20 PM

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I wonder why, everytime I sold rim, after transferred to new owner, the rim automatically looks nicer jor geh? First n3w case, now drfeelgood case sad.gif So, pending his full piktar after he blanco his Thai plate number lar. Really looks ultra hensem on his FLX imo. nestum comment was, vehicle owner face problem doh.gif That's why no matter what 7 rim hooked on my car, as long ayam the owner it will looked fugly wor cry.gif

Anyway, it was a FILLING twice TT with drfeelgood. It's full of PRESSURE all day from berakpas to luncheon. But ayam kinda regret on the berakpas, which cost even more than the roast duct, roast pork and charsew doh.gif Bugger should have save up the berakpas 1 shot order whole duck instead laugh.gif Very adorable drfeelgood we got, luckily caught in a big fight 2 years ago, if not wouldn't have this opportunity to make a good friend that tokok singsong lika king fella thumbup.gif

Have a safe journey home tomolo and awaiting for the camwhore foto wub.gif
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post Jan 8 2015, 04:30 PM

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davidke20 do you intentionally switch pump between petron / petronas?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 8 2015, 04:30 PM)
davidke20 do you intentionally switch pump between petron / petronas?
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I dont INTENTIONALLY switch, but as a pahlawan I don't really care of Petrongas will give better mileage, I will just pam Petron bcoz the damn fuel damn ANGRY. I'd rather vroom then purposely go Petrongas stasen isi.

As a waifu, Mrs.YAB saw my kalendar todei got tukar rim TT, she purposely whacked 320km since I isi petrol last week. So todei I drib ady left 1 bar, before I reached home ady menyala. No choice I went back to the usual Petron stasen near mai haus. If you notis the most recent 2 fuel ups are both Petrong laugh.gif The fact is, I only did about 50km on that tank. My waifu though, she will dai dai go look for Petrongnas geh.
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Petrong - unker david pump
Petrongas - mrs. YAB pump

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post Jan 8 2015, 05:25 PM

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Anyone know where to get the center cap for rim kompang? Ayam worry mai kar will bkam lidis. I think pahlawan Hang iskazulka should also worry since he so gangho removed his hub caps sad.gif

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Something fugly lidis is acceptable
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Surprisingly a hajbek dugong looks much naiser with the trim ring and center caps wub.gif
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kenjilew got mou? nestum?
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some jibai stole my hub caps la.
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davidke20 if got reserved for me too. sad.gif
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post Jan 8 2015, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Jan 8 2015, 01:55 PM)
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Jiu must knorr horr.... long long time ahgo... i no dribe shiver stun liao...

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Berry quiet.... berry smooze...

Lum sei ngor....love die me...
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post Jan 8 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2015, 04:20 PM)
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I wonder why, everytime I sold rim, after transferred to new owner, the rim automatically looks nicer jor geh? First n3w case, now drfeelgood case sad.gif So, pending his full piktar after he blanco his Thai plate number lar. Really looks ultra hensem on his FLX imo. nestum comment was, vehicle owner face problem doh.gif That's why no matter what 7 rim hooked on my car, as long ayam the owner it will looked fugly wor cry.gif

Anyway, it was a FILLING twice TT with drfeelgood. It's full of PRESSURE all day from berakpas to luncheon. But ayam kinda regret on the berakpas, which cost even more than the roast duct, roast pork and charsew doh.gif Bugger should have save up the berakpas 1 shot order whole duck instead laugh.gif Very adorable drfeelgood we got, luckily caught in a big fight 2 years ago, if not wouldn't have this opportunity to make a good friend that tokok singsong lika king fella thumbup.gif

Have a safe journey home tomolo and awaiting for the camwhore foto wub.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2015, 05:25 PM)
Anyone know where to get the center cap for rim kompang? Ayam worry mai kar will bkam lidis. I think pahlawan Hang iskazulka should also worry since he so gangho removed his hub caps sad.gif

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Something fugly lidis is acceptable
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Surprisingly a hajbek dugong looks much naiser with the trim ring and center caps wub.gif
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kenjilew got mou? nestum?
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u got curi nissan datsun or c22 1...lol


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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 8 2015, 12:03 PM)
Love die me liao...

Yokohama C Drive 2...
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Fuyoh! Rim Bling Bling, whole car snap la plz. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 8 2015, 04:20 PM)
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I wonder why, everytime I sold rim, after transferred to new owner, the rim automatically looks nicer jor geh? First n3w case, now drfeelgood case sad.gif So, pending his full piktar after he blanco his Thai plate number lar. Really looks ultra hensem on his FLX imo. nestum comment was, vehicle owner face problem doh.gif That's why no matter what 7 rim hooked on my car, as long ayam the owner it will looked fugly wor cry.gif

Anyway, it was a FILLING twice TT with drfeelgood. It's full of PRESSURE all day from berakpas to luncheon. But ayam kinda regret on the berakpas, which cost even more than the roast duct, roast pork and charsew doh.gif Bugger should have save up the berakpas 1 shot order whole duck instead laugh.gif Very adorable drfeelgood we got, luckily caught in a big fight 2 years ago, if not wouldn't have this opportunity to make a good friend that tokok singsong lika king fella thumbup.gif

Have a safe journey home tomolo and awaiting for the camwhore foto wub.gif
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You sendiri fikir only la, looks good on your car the city rims whistling.gif

Older one year think a lot di yawn.gif

Car wash TT can revisit your two old rims. laugh.gif
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Latest pic laaaa. mad.gif

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