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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V66, Jerkyy Dong Dong Chiang

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iskazulka
post Jan 5 2015, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 09:02 AM)
laugh.gif My GaGa stock NGK upon 80k major serbis, the berak still usable. Probably still can last another 80k laugh.gif
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are you dares mia father? ph34r.gif
i change NGK spark.for.rebellion.plug @ 28K. sleep.gif
and still use NGK plug. (in compliance with factory spec car:w )

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post Jan 5 2015, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 5 2015, 11:26 AM)
are you dares mia father?  ph34r.gif
i change NGK spark.for.rebellion.plug @ 28K.  sleep.gif
and still use NGK plug. (in compliance with factory spec car:w )
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Ya lor .. wait the car break down for no reason....

Who rugi?
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post Jan 5 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 5 2015, 11:26 AM)
are you dares mia father?  ph34r.gif
i change NGK spark.for.rebellion.plug @ 28K.  sleep.gif
and still use NGK plug. (in compliance with factory spec car)
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Jiu changed it doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. Picture as prove, the electrode is still in very good condition. The surrounding of the heat dampening area is carbonized but still in good shape without cracks. If I were to reuse it, all I have to do is plonk back and it shall last for another 80k without issue. To lansi abit, I can use petrol to brush it clean, loosen the tip and readjust the contact point with filler gauge for optimal clearance, plonk back and it will run just like new nod.gif

Peeps who keep komplening their sepakberak after 20k no powah... huat a joke doh.gif Dun even got dyno result whistling.gif The truth is, during last dyno my AFR is running at optimal, there's no issue with my sparks/ignition timing at all. Despite running at only 78whp, does not mean I'll have to compete against other modded GaGa whistling.gif

Don't get me wrong. Ayam not saying Iridium sepakberak no guding. I'm sure performance berak got their own good, 1 thing for sure Iridium is much lasting material compare to copper. My only concern is, when you pay so much more expansive Iridium berak(RM120 I suppose?), compare to stock copper berak(RM28), how to justify leh? Can your Iridium last you 160k km mileage? I doubt that the owner will hold on to such performance berak for so long, probably another 10k/20k km then start to feel butt itchy and changed the berak out ady whistling.gif

Oh just 1 more last fact for your info, electric conducting chart for COPPER is top of the range. Followed by Iridium and finally Platinum. Vice versa, Platinum wear & tear is the lowest compare to Iridium, followed by COPPER. Meaning that COPPER will wear out fastest among other competitor. My point is, if my COPPER berak lasted 80k km and the electrode still like new, when will the Iridium berak started to wear? Ayam just curious. Prove me wrong plis whistling.gif

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If anything I would wanna do to my engine, the next big thing is to remove coil on plug, try to fit in some conventional cabled ignition distributor system, just like the old Kampro

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post Jan 5 2015, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jan 4 2015, 11:27 PM)
Can ha? Hehehe if can sure addict more rindu ma car liddat .haha
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You dah dtg training ke belum?

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 06:53 AM)
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Just wanted to report back, this thing is currently helping me getting like 10% FC on each tank. Click my fuelly and see, even my waifu can clock 12km/l and above easily. The car often get stuck in LDP from Sg Buloh ~ Kelana Centre Point, hence may have 1 or 2 reading off the scale.
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Maybe new spark plug punye pasal?

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 08:02 AM)
laugh.gif My GaGa stock NGK upon 80k major serbis, the berak still usable. Probably still can last another 80k laugh.gif

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I got it cash & carry RM60/set of 4. I know some other places might be cheaper, also heard of RM52/set. You may wanna check around your area see whether got anot. If dun got, during spork rim COD time I can bling u go buy geh nod.gif
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Colour macam kopi liao. sleep.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 12:49 PM)
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the depressing emoticons should tell that i should change at 80k instead of 28k.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 11:49 AM)
Jiu changed it doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. Picture as prove, the electrode is still in very good condition. The surrounding of the heat dampening area is carbonized but still in good shape without cracks. If I were to reuse it, all I have to do is plonk back and it shall last for another 80k without issue. To lansi abit, I can use petrol to brush it clean, loosen the tip and readjust the contact point with filler gauge for optimal clearance, plonk back and it will run just like new nod.gif

Peeps who keep komplening their sepakberak after 20k no powah... huat a joke doh.gif Dun even got dyno result whistling.gif The truth is, during last dyno my AFR is running at optimal, there's no issue with my sparks/ignition timing at all. Despite running at only 78whp, does not mean I'll have to compete against other modded GaGa whistling.gif

Don't get me wrong. Ayam not saying Iridium sepakberak no guding. I'm sure performance berak got their own good, 1 thing for sure Iridium is much lasting material compare to copper. My only concern is, when you pay so much more expansive Iridium berak(RM120 I suppose?), compare to stock copper berak(RM28), how to justify leh? Can your Iridium last you 160k km mileage? I doubt that the owner will hold on to such performance berak for so long, probably another 10k/20k km then start to feel butt itchy and changed the berak out ady whistling.gif

Oh just 1 more last fact for your info, electric conducting chart for COPPER is top of the range. Followed by Iridium and finally Platinum. Vice versa, Platinum wear & tear is the lowest compare to Iridium, followed by COPPER. Meaning that COPPER will wear out fastest among other competitor. My point is, if my COPPER berak lasted 80k km and the electrode still like new, when will the Iridium berak started to wear? Ayam just curious. Prove me wrong plis whistling.gif

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If anything I would wanna do to my engine, the next big thing is to remove coil on plug, try to fit in some conventional cabled ignition distributor system, just like the old Kampro

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Can remove coil on plug meh? Sounds like too big project.
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post Jan 5 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Jan 5 2015, 11:53 AM)
Colour macam kopi liao. sleep.gif
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I HOPE YOUR SEPAK BERAK OPEN UP THAT TIME ITS HUAIT KALER whistling.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 5 2015, 11:54 AM)
Can remove coil on plug meh? Sounds like too big project.
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Sounds like it, but wouldn't wanna continue maintain COP and it seems very tofu like gonna break anytime yawn.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 12:14 PM)
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I HOPE YOUR SEPAK BERAK OPEN UP THAT TIME ITS HUAIT KALER whistling.gif
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OMG, my old iridium almost like the high speed glazing... sweat.gif but the top part got a bit blueish at the end... hmm.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 5 2015, 01:44 PM)
OMG, my old iridium almost like the high speed glazing...  sweat.gif  but the top part got a bit blueish at the end... hmm.gif
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cause by hard acceleration. normal if driver is you. whistling.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 5 2015, 12:44 PM)
Ya lor .. wait the car break down for no reason....

Who rugi?
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unker david proof it with 80k usage.
dares father until 80k never change also.
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 5 2015, 02:06 PM)
unker david proof it with 80k usage.
dares father until 80k never change also.
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Dun risk lor. Thats all i am saying
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 5 2015, 03:10 PM)
Dun risk lor. Thats all i am saying
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in unker david indeed i trust.
previous i already risk it. btw, 20k is only suggested by SC. 28k usage and my previous sparkplug also in good condition.
inb4 davidke20 fanboi.

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post Jan 5 2015, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 5 2015, 02:14 PM)
in unker david indeed i trust.
previous i already risk it. btw, 20k is only suggested by SC. 28k usage and my previous sparkplug also in good condition.
inb4 davidke20 fanboi.
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Oooo you davidke20 fanboi..... ooooo ha ha ha

Well for me, spend small money, keep everything tiptop... rather than risk a breakdown in the middle of the highway

Big money go go go.

Anyway collectibles from Shell Bonuslink...


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post Jan 5 2015, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 5 2015, 02:02 PM)
cause by hard  acceleration. normal if driver is you.  whistling.gif
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Normal for those cars that changed exhaust to after market, where the O2 sensor only gets reading from the 3rd bank. If that bank running rich, meaning all the sparks will be become thunderstorm just to make sure the "rich" air fuel being sparked. Matter of fact, there isn't any rich situation, just that O2 rated it as rich due to carbon reading is high on bank 3. You're not wrong, the more the driver rev the engine, the more likely O2 sensor getting wrong "rich" reading, and sparks plugs getting strained nod.gif

As he confirmed there's bluish at the tip, it's actually running quite optimal, so not to worry too much.
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post Jan 5 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(drfeelgood @ Jan 5 2015, 02:10 PM)
Dun risk lor. Thats all i am saying
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Won't be literally BREAKDOWN due to worn off plugs. The worst case scenario for bad plugs will be harder to crank start, especially early in the morning engine will stall. Drive that time will jerk abit even with same speed cruising. Higher petrol consumption due to incomplete burning. By that time, your mileage probably clocked 100k liao nod.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 03:19 PM

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davidke20 i now curious on the spark plug condition if installed firestorm, at least for NGK plug. if it's proven, next time will try use bosch super 4 plug. but have to wait at least 2019. Lol.
btw, looking at your fuelly, when is the time you changed the plug?

Fubar20 pakai iridium sparkplug only 50K if i recall? lol.

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post Jan 5 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 5 2015, 02:53 PM)
Normal for those cars that changed exhaust to after market, where the O2 sensor only gets reading from the 3rd bank. If that bank running rich, meaning all the sparks will be become thunderstorm just to make sure the "rich" air fuel being sparked. Matter of fact, there isn't any rich situation, just that O2 rated it as rich due to carbon reading is high on bank 3. You're not wrong, the more the driver rev the engine, the more likely O2 sensor getting wrong "rich" reading, and sparks plugs getting strained nod.gif

As he confirmed there's bluish at the tip, it's actually running quite optimal, so not to worry too much.
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post Jan 5 2015, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 5 2015, 05:59 PM)
oic. TQ SIFU...  notworthy.gif
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i am not called king summoner for nothing. lol.
anyway thumbup.gif for you.

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