ic...i was thinking the same thing

பன்றி இறைச்சி, எலும்பு சூப் சாப்பிட போக.

the iafm is just pure shit,if i am replacing the iafm again,it will be my 4th unit,zzzzz

Susah mau detect IAFM kong kalau ada muffler bising kan? hmm

Jom mana?

not just a leaking vacuum hose?

so loud ka your ekjos until cannot hear iafm kong?

HAHA tak tau lar. But if IAFM kong its the weird loud tak tak tak tak sound coming from the IAFM area kan?

tomolo decide lo. lol

commonly...but i hear hissing sound

Wlaao, gembat a lot engine ni

My car can't start. When start, only non stop 'tak tak tak tak', not wukekekekeke....battery only 2 years 1 month, battery water still normal. Check battery voltage, non cranking 12.3V, during cranking, fall to 11.6~11.8V, and back to 12.3V after let go the key, so i think should be normal and not caused by battery flat out. So most probably the starter give up adi. Tmr gonna ask foreman come my house to check 1st. Any opinion from u guys?

Edit: Starter motor PW812050 : RM431.41, pokai lo...

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Dec 25 2014, 11:09 PM

change battery... mine non cranking 12.4V but during crank 9.7V... after changing battery then ok adi...

although it is a Proton, but starter usually very very rarely will rosak one leh...

Ok, tmr jump start 1st...from what i understand if battery flat, mostly the starter only emit 'click' once or 'wukeekekek' very slowly and u can see the light almost dead during crank, this is what i experienced 2 years ago.

It's a dual layer double bearing solenoid starter(compatible with Mits Gallant - Perdana). The symptoms as you described got 3 causes.

1) Battery not enough power. To rectify this, change battery. But according to you, volt meter during cranking is 11V++, by right shouldn't have this issue, so it goes to...below
2) Earth(grounding) weakness. Add an extra grounding cable can solve this.
3) If the wuataktaktaktaktak very fast, meaning starter solenoid didn't get actuate out properly. The sign of DYING carbon brush IN the solenoid. Experienced magician will pull an extra power wire from battery positive pole, plonk a relay and use the original kick start wire as trigger. Draw power from battery directly when you switch your key to START. Relay wiring and relay module + labor is about RM40.

Lastly, if the solenoid is totally gone, the carbon brush no longer usable... well you're outta luck. Get a new starter. Still, I think a jump start is necessarily just to test out whether it is really battery KO

1. Yup, shouldn't be battery problem. Anyway, tmr jump start 1st.
2. Car adi have aftermarket grounding cable, quite low possibility caused by it.
3. No 'wua', only tak tak tak, not really fast, around 2 times/second, as long as i hold the key, it will 'tak' forever. Anyway, i believe this method is just for temporary right? If the carbon brush is start to die, means it will die eventually right?

Just now quite embarrassing, my house parking is slightly decline, today i reverse without start car 1st becos dun want my baby rouse from sleep, just reverse by released handbrake and start after that, only find out can't start, the car stuck in the middle of the road. Have to ask neighbor to push my car back to home.

Hopefully is just battery problem, if not jialat.

This post has been edited by coolkwc: Dec 26 2014, 12:36 AM

Now want tido liao >_< safe drive for tomorrow morning, cmi going for class sorry.

The "temporary" measure of putting relay on a dying starter, lasted me another 3 years(probably until today, another 2 years after car sold to unker choy) So..... yes it's still temporary measure

what if car alarm suddenly goes off? is it also related to battery problem?
car is locked, all doors/bonnet/boot are closed before