QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Sep 25 2006, 12:23 PM)
okay what ever ..... 360 to beat PS3 at rendering 1080p!, current 360 games already 1080p !!
360 to beat PS3 at rendering 1080p!, current 360 games already 1080p !!
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Sep 25 2006, 12:42 PM
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Sep 26 2006, 04:21 PM
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XBox360 games at 1080p isnt really using a full 1080p. Most of its raw data is compressed, due to low media storage, thats the HD-DVD.
With the PS3 using Blu-Ray media, they have far more storage, so most of its 1080p media is uncompressed. Meaning... better looking quality graphics at a true 1080p format. When you say XBox360 beat PS3 at 1080p reso, yes they might be the 1st to come out 1080p games, but wait till you see the power of PS3 games with its 1080p/i games... |
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Sep 26 2006, 04:22 PM
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[moans like a zombie] meeeeee........wiiillllllllll .......notttttt.......buuyyyyyy.........ps33333........mmmmmmoreeeeeeee...issssssssss...ggggggoooooddddd......[/moans like a zombie]
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Sep 26 2006, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Sep 26 2006, 03:21 AM) XBox360 games at 1080p isnt really using a full 1080p. Most of its raw data is compressed, due to low media storage, thats the HD-DVD. 1. Xb360 games don't use HD-DVD.With the PS3 using Blu-Ray media, they have far more storage, so most of its 1080p media is uncompressed. Meaning... better looking quality graphics at a true 1080p format. When you say XBox360 beat PS3 at 1080p reso, yes they might be the 1st to come out 1080p games, but wait till you see the power of PS3 games with its 1080p/i games... 2. Compression is always used these days unless the developer is a retard. It maximizes bandwidth and reduces data transfer times. Also you can pack in much higher quality compressed data in the same space as you could uncompressed. 3. I'm waiting alright. I've been waiting for a year. But i know enough to not expect miracles. 4. You don't know what you are talking about at all. |
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Sep 26 2006, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Sep 26 2006, 04:34 PM) 1. Xb360 games don't use HD-DVD. 2. Compression is always used these days unless the developer is a retard. It maximizes bandwidth and reduces data transfer times. Also you can pack in much higher quality compressed data in the same space as you could uncompressed. 3. I'm waiting alright. I've been waiting for a year. But i know enough to not expect miracles. 4. You don't know what you are talking about at all. to add to that: 1. BD is using VC-1, AVC/MPEG4 and MPEG2 encoding for movies. 2. BD titles have lossless LCM tracks which doesnt need a decoder to get the tracks in receivers. But the problem is the consume lots of space. There come Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS HD Master. How do this two work? Some at the AVS Forum put it, they dont compress the track, they just 'zip' the tracks and DDTrueHD and DTSHDMaster 'unzip' the tracks and send them to receivers. This post has been edited by g5sim: Sep 26 2006, 05:01 PM |
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Sep 26 2006, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 26 2006, 05:00 PM) to add to that: 1. BD is using VC-1, AVC/MPEG4 and MPEG2 encoding for movies. 2. BD titles have lossless LCM tracks which doesnt need a decoder to get the tracks in receivers. But the problem is the consume lots of space. There come Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS HD Master. How do this two work? Some at the AVS Forum put it, they dont compress the track, they just 'zip' the tracks and DDTrueHD and DTSHDMaster 'unzip' the tracks and send them to receivers. To shaznizzle : Yup, obviously u don't know what you're talking about there. |
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Sep 26 2006, 07:32 PM
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ai i vote jus close the topic la. the thread starter is talking way outside topic and everyone is giving gibberish comments without proper citation
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Sep 26 2006, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(g5sim @ Sep 26 2006, 05:00 PM) to add to that: 1. BD is using VC-1, AVC/MPEG4 and MPEG2 encoding for movies. 2. BD titles have lossless LCM tracks which doesnt need a decoder to get the tracks in receivers. But the problem is the consume lots of space. There come Dolby Digital TrueHD and DTS HD Master. How do this two work? Some at the AVS Forum put it, they dont compress the track, they just 'zip' the tracks and DDTrueHD and DTSHDMaster 'unzip' the tracks and send them to receivers. this thread is hilarious.. |
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Sep 26 2006, 08:01 PM
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in less than 2 months SONY and Nintendo will release their next-gen console. at that time all the fanboys will come in full force! let the games begin!
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Sep 26 2006, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(redbull_y2k @ Sep 26 2006, 05:33 PM) we're talking bout the media n games but now you're talking bout the movies which is a different topic instead. Are u sure u know what you're talking about? QUOTE sendiri tak tahu cakap pasal aper.. well actually PS3 will support 5.1 Dolby Digital FOR GAMES !!! and sorry its "PCM" not "LCM" QUOTE As expected, the Blu-ray player built into the PS3 will support both Dolby TrueHD as well as Dolby Digital. For games, the console will support interactive Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound. http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/ and on the video compression for PS3 and even 360. call me stupid whatever ... Its up to u guys. QUOTE we're talking bout the media n games but now you're talking bout the movies which is a different topic instead. Are u sure u know what you're talking about? Shaz said the use of BD media would allow developers not to compression tools. i gave an example of BD media that use compression codec .. MPEG, MPEG4/AVC etc. I personally dun know which compression tool PS3 is using. There are saurces saying XBox 360 is using Window Media Video and Window Media Audio (WMV/WMA). QUOTE For years compression has been required in video games and for anyone with any basic knowledge of computers will be able to understand why. As we know with video game consoles the games are stored on optical disc media. Now what exactly is optical disc media? Fancy talk for CD/DVD/HD-DVD/Blu-Ray. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show...ser=louislegros http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profile/show...1&user=Hypn0sis http://vision.pcvsconsole.com/?article=2 its getting tiring that i have to explain my post. I am starting to feel like my posts are read by parrots who cant seem to grasp that "to beat" has more than one meaning. i tengah bercakap dengan lembu kah? This post has been edited by g5sim: Sep 26 2006, 09:13 PM |
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Sep 26 2006, 09:40 PM
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Sep 26 2006, 10:09 PM
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Sep 26 2006, 10:21 PM
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Sep 26 2006, 10:24 PM
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Here's what happend when 2 clueless fellas trying to get their points across, a whole lotta confusion.
So for any in-game movie for a game console, the developer can use whatever codec they pleased with. Be it BINK video, DIVX, AVC h.264, WMV or whatever they see fit. The console are not tied to only some specific codec like the HD-DVD/BD movies. |
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Sep 26 2006, 10:41 PM
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Sep 26 2006, 10:55 PM
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This thread is sad..but funny
As much as i don't want it to be close down...but i think the most rational thing to do would be, shutting it down. (mod? er...my kungfu not strong enough) Anyway...it's funnaayyy. |
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Sep 26 2006, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(PrivateJohn @ Sep 26 2006, 10:55 PM) This thread is sad..but funny thank god im not the only one who finds this thread funny.. As much as i don't want it to be close down...but i think the most rational thing to do would be, shutting it down. (mod? er...my kungfu not strong enough) Anyway...it's funnaayyy. |
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Sep 26 2006, 11:10 PM
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trust me.... u are not alone.
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Sep 26 2006, 11:47 PM
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anyone here got a 1080p capable TV yet? Mine's coming....in about 10yrs maybe.
This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Sep 26 2006, 11:48 PM |
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Sep 27 2006, 12:07 AM
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WOW look at what I've just created... massive confusion. LOL.
I was talking about GAMES!!! NOT MOVIES!!! Ofcoz they use VC-1, AVC/MPEG4 and MPEG2 encoding for movies.... but I'am talking about GAMES!!! GAMES!!! GA............AMES!!!! Yea its funny how the replies went, when people dont read. |
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