SS is not on par with Focus. 2.0 NA vs 1.6 Turbo. However it is very close:
http://www.ford.com.my/cars/focus/specifications/spec-data

Ford kerb weight 1470 kg (2.0L variant)
Maximum Power (Ps (kW)/rpm) 170 @ 6500
Maximum Torque Nm (kg.m)/rpm) 202 @ 4450
Acceleration time: ??? (who has this info)
Price from about RM117k >>

Suprima S is 1,395 kg (CVT)
Maximum Power 103kW @ 5,000 RPM
Maximum Torque 205Nm @ 2,000 – 4,000 RPM
Acceleration time 0 - 100 km: 9.9 secs
Price from RM80k>>


Peak performance for the Focus 2.0L is higher than Suprima S, however need to rev it quite high to get it there. In actual race, I am not sure if it is that far apart.
I actually would like to see a track time at sepang for the stock performance/stock tyres of both cars. Gladly use my own car for SS, if I in sepang. Use same race car driver for both cars. Maybe Paultan can arrange something on Driven for this.

Voice command. Not that useful as it is quite rigid. auto parking quite useful for those who don't know how to side park their car. Reverse video parking even more useful not to run over people.

This post has been edited by mystvearn: Nov 24 2014, 10:57 PM

I do believe there is no replacement in displacement.
Thus, mid/high range of CFE will never be able to compete with Focus.

You might argue that some other low engine capacity turbocharged could accelerate to post 160km/h effortlessly but let not forget that CFE is a lower boost turbocharged and without direction injection and supercharged (if you compare to twincharged golf mk6 and jetta).

CFE will be a hell fun engine to drive with, if it comes with more horsepower. I would say something around 150hp would be fun enough. Certainly not the 138hp.

im just waiting for the facelift focus with ecoboost engine hopefully next year. not sure hows the performance though

Re. track time in Sepang between Suprima and Ford Focus. Not too sure about the handling between Suprima vs Focus hatchback. Between Preve Turbo sedan and Focus sedan, it's not only the power in acceleration, but the handling of the Preve Turbo, although good, does not match up to the Focus as well. On the bends, the Focus sticks to the tarmac like a leech and feels solid whereas the Preve Turbo feels little wobbly with higher body roll. You get a bit of feeling that the Preve Turbo is going to turn turtle when taking bends at higher speed but there is no such feeling with the Focus. The limiting factor in these conditions are the tyres.

Race track driving will only gauge the time and performance of the cars in extreme driving conditions. In everyday driving, when there is a need to accelerate quickly at any given speed ie. hard acceleration, the Preve Turbo felt heavier and sluggish compared to the Focus, presumably due to the CVT and throttle response/tuning. One cannot just simply step hard on the pedal of the Preve Turbo(or Suprima if the throttle response is similar) and expect the car to launch forward like a rocket. Otherwise we will just hear the unpleasant loud whining sound from the engine and the car isn't surging forward as quickly as we want it to be but instead accelerating at a slow pace. We will have to control the footwork on the pedal of the Preve Turbo if we want the car to accelerate forward uniformly or quickly, exerting just the right amount of pressure on the pedal. This is the reason why some have commented on the poor throttle response of the Preve Turbo. On the other hand, with the Focus, one hard step on the pedal you will feel the power kicking in as you feel your body pushed back to the seat as the car lunges forward and the speed picking up rapidly.

In other words, even though the driver may want the Preve Turbo to accelerate off the blocks as quickly as possible, he cannot simply step on the pedal to the max and expect the car to launch forward like a beast. He will have to step on the pedal halfway down to "engage" the Turbo, then only slolwy exerting force onto the pedal to continue to accelerate away. A bit cumbersome and may not be as straightforward when compared to the more sensitive throttle response of say the Focus.

Suprima has revised ECU update for better pickup...resulting in worse FC than Preve CFE IINM

Hahahaha. Probably got a lot of backlash for his daring comment.
Do you remember the article? Damn curious now...tried looking for it
Can't seem to find on google

Words are cheap. Anybody can say the Suprima S is close to BMW 116i or 118i or Renault Megane too. Close in what sense? Performance, quality interior, fit and finish, ride and handling etc. The major mechanical components in the Proton, their home-bred Campro engine is the biggest letdown apart from the unrefined auto transmission. Performance aside, the interior fit and finish are basic and will not have the luxurious upmarket feel of the better pricier vehicles.

I would think the Suprima S will struggle when compared to Kia C'eed or Hyundai i30. It should benchmark against i30 if they really want to be serious.