looks like a salvator (sorry i'm varanus ignorant lol).. anyway, it's still a monitor lizard and monitors are known to eat young turtles.

growth rate differs. depending on food, a captive bred 3 old grandis could reach 8-9 inches, and i think it would be safe by then. and yeah, its a good idea to place them outside, natural sunlight is the best for them.

its good to see someone else whose interested in local species . one day, if those turtles turned out to be not a male-female pair, and you have intentions to breed them, i'll gladly help.

so cute the Star tortoise.. :-) may i know how much it cost in market now, i may consider a pair.. but in Johor Bahru, i seldom see kind of tortoise ..

TrutH_SeeKeR : Nice to know that you love chelonians too, welcome to the family.

chillie : It depends on the size, i would recommend you 3 inch specimen that would cost you around rm168+-.

bro, check out my avatar

this tortoise so old still so small? when it will grow bigger

from the look of it, that tortoise measures well above 20", surely not small

I think that tortoise is about the 18 inch SCL range but like camillenoir could be over 20 inch

StraxorX
You think all tortoise will grow to 1 meter long and weigh a few hundred kg ??? That tortoise is a local species and measure no more than 22 inches long no matter how old it may be

StraxorX,
the only land tortoises (Testudinae) bigger than Asian Brown Tortoise are Galapagos Giant Tortoise, Aldabra Tortoise, African Spurred Tortoise (Sulcata) and Asian Black Tortoise. The tortoise in the picture is indeed big!

if below 1 meter doesn't fullfill you're criteria for 'big' , look no further than 2-3 subspecies of Chelonoidis nigra (Galapagos giant tortoise), which can only be naturally found in the islands of galapagos archipelago. those are they only tortoises with potential to exceed 1m mark. a foreign dealer had once offered me a juvenile pair for RM120k. despite the temptation , the price could win me 4 wives and those tortoises are in no way legal

Showoff!! LOL

Already planning to get 4 wives ka bro ?

lol.. that's just a metaphor bro. keeping 1 wife is 100 times harder than keeping 100 turtles

woo hoo.....diamondback terrapin owned!!

lansi show off from Ho Lan..





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oh yeah.. his name is lewis hamilton

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 9 2007, 08:53 AM

Both SHOWOFF!

eh uzairi....i already asked u ma....
u also can own it n i think u will end up worst than from Holan
LOL

Picture Picture picture....!!!

leslie: do you give them 'cute' names like totti, toothie, daisy, gizmo, spike just like any Ho Lan would do? LMAO!

LOL
yeah i do!!! i gave them titties...dickie...pinkie...all sorts of CUTE CUTE name.LOL
here are they

sham....thts urs

I wont end up any worse than u la HoLan..

Wah, same name like the owner.. You shud name them pinkie junior or dickie junior.. LOL

u're hamsap also urs is named pinkie dickie? just like the owner LMFAO!!

i suspect mine to be Carolina (based on the claim of the original dealer) and yours a Northern (in which don't know the original dealer LOL). anyway, can't find any raised posterior marginals lol.. anyway, whatever spp. they are, those are beautiful.

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 8 2007, 07:54 PM

He's damn hamsap one la bro, i also dunno what to say already..