hey, i'm gonna go back raya @ Kluang tomorrow night. will be long 12 days without internet

see you guys at 22nd.

eh sham...now i feel like sayang mau lepas the diamondback d la...
LOL
too cute d man....

hey, leslie.. i'm still breathing here lol.

yeah.. cute for the 1st 18 months. most of those american emydidae lose their charms as they grow with age, thus explains why so many RES ended up rupturing our ecosystem.

luckily DBTs are valued in ks and don't do well in our waters, LOL

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 9 2007, 06:49 PM

Happy holiday and take care bro! I'll have to survive 1 month without internets!

How many of you here own a pancake tortoise? RM500 each.

samperth has some of those lovely pancakes.

p/s: bro zeist, trust me, once you get hooked, rm500 is just (or maybe not) enough for monthly maintenance - food/filter media/electricity/vitamin/calcium/water tariff etc etc.. cost

Omigosh, RM500 monthly maintenance for a pancake tortoise?

What about monthly maintenance star tortoise? I'm looking for something affordable, don't want green turtle I had many last time, already released them at some big pond nearby my place.

no no. what i meant was when you get serious in this hobby and have a vast collection of chelonians, you'd probably spent that amount or more monthly.

p/s: LOL, since when did land tortoises require filter media?

READ MY SIGGY!!!

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 10 2007, 09:58 PM

Wait, before you tembak me. The pond where I released the turtles, do you have any idea how many turtles are there? There are about 200+ turtles from various sizes, that is not some longkang or chapalang pond or whatever.

It is some recretional park built by the city council, a place for joggers and tourists, the pond is mainly for fishes and turtles...

You think I will simply release those turtles at some longkang ah?

the one near bukit jalil/vista commonwealth? prone to breakaway.

it's the same thing if you release them anywhere in this country... if everyone thinks it is ok to release just because everybody else did so, the problem will just get worse.

the rule is simple; once you bought a non-native species, you're stuck with it for life. either put to adoption or keep.

nevermind, not your fault if you don't know. it's those stupid wildlife/trade officer's fault for allowing the the import of tens of thousands of those RES hatchling annually here whereas the sales of those hatchlings is ILLEGAL in their native country. friend, that' why research is important

p/s: hey, i haven't tembak you..

This post has been edited by camillenoir: Oct 10 2007, 10:13 PM

Nope. This pond is located somewhere in Klang, it's pretty big, size of a standard swimming pool.

Yes I know, if you did I'm already dead.

y selling res hatchiling illegal in some countries?

For example in their Native country range USA selling any chelonian below 4 inch are regulated
Sales of anything below 4 inch are for educational purposes only

educational purpose? can presice on that? i dun get u...

That you have to ask someone from the US department to explain on the presice on that

Anything cheloinan ( turtle in paticular ) that are smaller than 4 inch are not allowed to be sold in the US unless for SCIENTIFIC OR EDUCTIONAL PURPOSES ( primary school science projects ....etc )

As most if not all RES are produced in the US and because of that 4 inch rule ( equate to about a year's worth of growth for RES to reach that size ) thus the bulk of their RES hatchlings' production are exported


More on the 4 inch rule


This post has been edited by SAMPERTH: Oct 15 2007, 02:09 PM

hi..... any guidance for me to start taking star tortoise as pet? i havent buy it yet.....cause i worry i make one precious life lost in my hand

dunno why small RES turtles so hard to be active

Water too cold or maybe sick thus the more often inactiveness ...etc

Try adding a heater or heat it up a little with sun light ...etc and see how

erm, ask something, for the vitamin for tortoise rite, wat brand u all use ar?
coz i hard to get any in my area here since i'm in melaka here,
and search all the info cant get to know any vitamin brand which is for tortoise one.

There are no paticular that are for tortoises only , As long as it is for reptilian its good enough But do remember there are 2 types
- Multi-Vitamin
- Calcium ( some with D3 , some pure calcium )