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zero5177
post Sep 23 2016, 12:20 AM

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Guys, my iswara when making big turn such as U-turn, and at the same time accelerating, will make some iron knocking sound tak tak tak tak... the sound gone if I don't accelerate. and when going straight also have the same sound when accelerating but not that loud compared to u-turn,
just a light accelerating to let the car move... not pedal to floor... what is the culprit here?

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post Sep 23 2016, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 23 2016, 09:01 AM)
Drive shaft CV joint worn out.

Check the boots see if like as shown.
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Oh.. I'll take a look tmr... but shouldn't change drive shaft itself right?
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post Sep 25 2016, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Sep 24 2016, 03:30 PM)
I have not changed my driveshaft or CV joints even after 15 years, as the boots are still intact. From my previous car experience, once the boot breaks, grease is lost, water/sand gets in and very quickly the joint is damaged.

From reading forum discussions, either the CV joint or whole drive shaft can be changed. see :
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2255793/all

From this blog it seems the replacement driveshafts can be a headache...
http://kahchai1985.blogspot.com/search?q=driveshaft
Not sure if the situation is still the same, maybe the sifus here can provide more info about this and the costs etc.
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Just changed drive shafts today... they name it Drive Shafts Long

Not sure what that means thou... damage about RM255...

Now it seems the problem solved, hope it last long...
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post Sep 25 2016, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 25 2016, 07:01 PM)
Is  my  saga  said  to  be  'consume  black oil'  after  I found  that  the  level  of  black  oil  decrease  a bit  on  dipstick after  traveling  300km?  I already  obeseved ,  there's  no  white  smoke  emit  from  the  exhaust....
Normally  we  said  that  the  car  gt  ' consume  black  oil'  if the  car  emit white  smoke?
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First have to make sure you check your engine oil level at a flat surface,
2nd if minor "consume black oil" the smoke at exhaust weren't obvious especially you're idling. try revving for few seconds at 3-4k rpm and have someone check for you

If 2nd doesn't happen, you may try park your car overnight at a clean floor and check the floor the other day for any oil stains on the floor.

QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 25 2016, 07:04 PM)
I Balik kampung  300km,  traveling  at  110-120kmh already  RM 53 petrol...
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Considering petrol price at RM1.70/L

You're getting about 9.62KM/L which is kinda high in my opinion...
My Iswara 1.3MT getting 13km/L at highway drive with that speed...


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post Sep 26 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 26 2016, 09:46 PM)
Well ,  I drove  another  300km  today,  mostly at  100 kmh,  I get  14.9km /l.. Is  it  normal?  I always keep  the  engine  rpm  below  3k
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Well, FC really depending on how you drive the car and 1 time calculation is not accurate as sometimes the fuel tank we filled is not that full compared to some other time.

But 14.9km/l is really good, I never achieve such figure before... Usual drive with 70% highway and 30% city gets me around 11km/L
while 100% city drive can get only around 7km/L
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post Sep 26 2016, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 26 2016, 10:45 PM)
i think i get between 7-9 km/l sad.gif
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Ya man... not sure why all cars he drove also suffer bad FC one whistling.gif
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post Sep 26 2016, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 26 2016, 10:56 PM)
My  Honda  city  2005  can  achieve  17km /l
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Different tech... Iswara Engine from the 70-80s using carb...
I would say comparing to Nissan Sunny 130Y, the power delivery of Iswara is better... FC around the same thou...

QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 26 2016, 10:57 PM)
Anyone  here used  fuelly  before?  How  to  use  it?  I just  registered  it,  but  not  sure how it  track  the  mileage  achieved  and  fuel  consumption.....
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Even I calculate FC everytime I fill up, I still didn't use Fuelly... I find it a bit not so user friendly... So i'll just calculate and compared to my usual readings
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:16 PM

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Some say "Don't fix it if it's not broken"

That would be my advise as well especially a recond unit is also a hit and miss when replaced.

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post Sep 29 2016, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(delsoo @ Sep 29 2016, 07:18 AM)
Wah,  the  mileage  quite  low compared  to  mine....  My saga  03 already  locked  215000km so  far....
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My Myvi 08 already clocked 210k sweat.gif
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post Oct 20 2016, 11:10 PM

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Damn... recently my Iswara hard to start at cold start... (Like after left it for more than 5 hours)

I have to step a bit on gas and crank for 5 seconds only be able to start, and if I let go the gas, it will die down... until when the engine is warm enough only it won't die

What the possible cause of this? My autochoke has malfunction long ago, previously wasn't that hard to start the car
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post Oct 21 2016, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(cyanboy @ Oct 21 2016, 05:27 PM)
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Have met same case before. Its like suddenly so difficult for cold start, and yes the autochoke is gone long ago but its noticeably much harder to start.

Mechanic checked the plugs and air filter. Finally just changed the spark plugs and done, also might need to check the spark plugs cables but I just changed it last OCI so yeah. And dusted the air filter for free.

If now you need a quick start from this "super hard to start situation" according to mechanic:
1) Before crank, pump pedal twice, this will lead some fuel to the carburettor at least. (Sometimes car left too long not started, the petrol settled there might already dry up, pumping it will bring some fuel in)
2) Just crank, don't press pedal and crank (Pressing pedal and crank is the worst thing to do as spark may not even light up properly and fuel comes banjir everything, making much harder to start/restart or successful start/restart later)
3) Can't get it running? Repeat Step 1-2 again and again confirm you can start it in few times. (If its due to insufficient spark problem)
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If it's just spark plug/cable, then I'll feel relieved partially for being cheap, another part feeling worried for being something must have went wrong and clogged my spark plug because my spark plug just changed last year and travelled less than 10k Journey throughout this time rclxub.gif
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post Oct 23 2016, 12:38 AM

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Updates for my case here:

Took the car to mech on friday evening, told him to check the car next day morning(Because easier to examine the condition at cold start)

So he checked, most hardware is in good condition except carburetor is dirty, so he just cleaned it and now its easier to start. Will try again next day

Damage : RM40 only thumbup.gif

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post Oct 31 2016, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(wira_laju @ Oct 30 2016, 06:04 AM)
is good pour FS 5w-40 to 4g15?..eo is cheap nowadays..
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Is it Lexus EO u get from 11street?
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post Oct 31 2016, 11:49 PM

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Anyone experience this "Woooo" sound occasionally when depressing the clutch to engage gear? It sounds like some brake sound. After engaged gear no more sound... usually happen during startup with 1st gear or going to 2nd gear where you have to depress the clutch slowly
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post Nov 4 2016, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(navilink @ Nov 4 2016, 09:20 AM)
hi guys, my saga flx now already about 50k km, and 3-year free labour service already over..

any recommendation should i still go to proton service centre to service car or go to third party service centre outside (will be cheaper)?
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Saga FLX that way >> saga flx thread

On a side note, usually after free service over, they will just seek for a reliable foreman to do the service which is cheaper. However this is also subject to your car still under warranty or not.
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post Nov 5 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Albert B @ Nov 5 2016, 10:52 AM)
Could be related to gearbox or clutch, did you notice whether the sound frequency correspond to engine speed or road speed? I was reading this book chapter on clutch and there are some text on this, see below. The book chapter can be downloaded from:
http://www.g-w.com/pdf/sampchap/9781605252131_ch07.pdf
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It sounds like some dry brake sound... It only correspond to long clutch engagement, ie: during 1st gear engagement when the clutch is biting at certain point it will make that sound, after fully depress the clutch it will be no more... unless 2nd gear engagement also hit that particular biting point, it will sound again..
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post Nov 6 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 6 2016, 01:31 AM)
As the above mentioned, pressure plate or bearing.  Best just wait for it to Kong /unbearable then one shot change everything (clutch it self, pressure plate,  bearing,  housing etc,  usually all sell in a set anyways by Exedy Malaysia)  and your gear oil.
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Okies, guess I'll just wait for it to die... as long I have a spare car right now, that'll be fine thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(Albert B @ Nov 6 2016, 09:13 PM)
I have come across what is called "clutch moan/groan", i.e. when during the
releasing of the clutch I paused halfway when it is engaging. It sounds a bit like
Chewbacca in the Star Wars movie.

This sound does not happen if I release normally without pausing.

I am not sure if your case is same as mine.
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LOL! Chewbacca sound! That's a good way of describing it! rclxms.gif
My situation should be same with you, because at 1st or 2nd gear sometimes I need to hold to clutch longer for engaging
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post Nov 7 2016, 08:44 PM

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Damn... just serviced the Carburetor few weeks ago the car is good to start already, but now keep on cranking and couldn't start again dry.gif
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post Nov 15 2016, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Nov 15 2016, 11:07 AM)
Mechanics have warned me not to let anyone take
apart the carburettor for cleaning if it is not causing
you any problems.

Once you do that, the oxidation will likely clog up the inside
channels and jets later on, even worse if they have not
assembled back the tiny parts properly.

The carburettor, especially this complex variable venturi type
in the Iswara, is a very sensitive device.
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Its hard to not let them touch... its a 23 years old car, anything gone wrong any mech will go harass the carburettor... and I'm in no place to tell them not to touch the carb as well sweat.gif
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post Nov 27 2016, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(megadisc @ Nov 27 2016, 09:27 AM)
hi sifu
pls help

i am unable to renew my insurance per etiqa info
that coverage is more than sum issured
pls advise which insurance u r usng ??
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Liberty <RM200 without fire insurance

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