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danmooncake
post Jul 7 2015, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 6 2015, 10:50 PM)
yok70, i have been monitoring HSI and China A50m lately. been shorting via put nwarrants at klse. decent profit. but very very volatile. a swing of 200 points easily within minutes.i love them as there are opportunities for trading, high frequency type. HK share? i got no ideas at all as my $$$ coulkd not stretch that far, lol
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Some saying China is doing what US was doing back in great depression. Trying to stop a runaway train.
Their govt now stepping in to back stop the drop... some even call it Xi Jinping PUT.

Not sure if it will work or not because they're only protecting the blue chips stocks. Some small caps and no name overvalue companies are still being kicked down because uncles/aunties/taxi drivers all want their money back, the very moment it rises back, they will sell and some just throw in the towel and never turn back. There's a lot fear now and some are very angry at their govt for encouraging them to buy stocks when the market has doubled in value within 12 months time with PE at skyrocket level.

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post Jul 7 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 7 2015, 11:29 AM)
Some saying China is doing what US was doing back in great depression. Trying to stop a runaway train.
Their govt now stepping in to back stop the drop... some even call it Xi Jinping PUT. 

Not sure if it will work or not because they're only protecting the blue chips stocks.  Some small caps and no name overvalue companies are still being kicked down because uncles/aunties/taxi drivers all want their money back, the very moment it rises back, they will sell and some just throw in the towel and never turn back. There's a lot fear now and some are very angry at their govt for encouraging them to buy stocks when the market has doubled in value within 12 months time with PE at skyrocket level.
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True, fear is everywhere in China now. But these losers who now blame the government had been the same group of people blessing the government to let them take big huge margin to gamble stocks. Market is always good for knowledgeable and hardworking investors/traders. Those who gamble, they could loss in just any place besides just stock market. We should always look at valuation and safe margin. And I read that article too, comparing it with the great depression, I thought it's kind of a joke/sour grapes/strategic. laugh.gif

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post Jul 7 2015, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 7 2015, 11:29 AM)
Some saying China is doing what US was doing back in great depression. Trying to stop a runaway train.
Their govt now stepping in to back stop the drop... some even call it Xi Jinping PUT. 

Not sure if it will work or not because they're only protecting the blue chips stocks.  Some small caps and no name overvalue companies are still being kicked down because uncles/aunties/taxi drivers all want their money back, the very moment it rises back, they will sell and some just throw in the towel and never turn back.
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this is not so diff from bursa - the klci has been holding quite high for a long time until recently. but when u look closer, the big names, glc's were being propped up by local funds incl epf while most of mid-small ones are two penny half penny.



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post Jul 7 2015, 04:53 PM

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the china dive was blaming morgan stanley & co. but I also read that locals were dumping to get their blood-sweat money back as said by Dan. also, many are closing their margin n long positions quick. actuaally it wwas also reported that foreign hildings only amounted to a tiny percentage. so, many factors r contributing to the dive
hope the bloodshet is over now....pity the poor over leveraged gamblers there.
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one more thing...I told my remisier about foreigners comment on china shares as over valued, over leveraged n overbought, trading at 80x for the china A shares (thats wat I read) but my remisier kept telling me its about confidence and made projections for another round of new highs at china !!! lucky I dint believe the bullssheet. hahhaha...me not that stupid afterall.
but he has tips for me every morning and teaching me jap candles and financial ratios !!!
I never buy those bullsheet. thank goodneess !!!!


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post Jul 7 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 7 2015, 04:59 PM)
one more thing...I told my remisier about foreigners comment on china shares as over valued, over leveraged n overbought, trading at 80x for the china A shares (thats wat I read) but my remisier kept telling me its about confidence and made  projections for another round of new highs at china !!! lucky I dint believe the bullssheet. hahhaha...me not that stupid afterall.
but he has tips for me every morning and teaching me jap candles and financial ratios !!!
I never buy those bullsheet. thank goodneess !!!!
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haha!

but i sort of agree with him. over the long run, i am bullish on china market. Well, PE 80x is not a concern, as long as the stocks I bought were not at rediculous PE. They are 5x-11x only. It's all about valuation on stock trading.

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QUOTE(Brother J @ Jul 7 2015, 05:21 PM)
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bro j,

anything striking showing up on yr charts now about oil price?

appreciate any comments, hopefully i can collect a few coins or lose a few less tonite. biggrin.gif

thanks.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 7 2015, 06:29 PM)
bro j,

anything striking showing up on yr charts now about oil price?

appreciate any comments, hopefully i can collect a few coins or lose a few less tonite. biggrin.gif

thanks.
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same Q here. seems oil is going nowhere these days...
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 7 2015, 06:42 PM)
same Q here. seems oil is going nowhere these days...
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ya, everything looking very edgy...

futures up but looks insecure!:D

oil dived, now bouncing around.

the only firm thing is rm @ 3.81.



still, i got this feeling that the greek drama may take a major twist tonite.

markets are looking for a reason to rebound, imo.
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Jul 7 2015, 09:45 PM)
Remeber when I wrote "does not look pretty at all" and "setting up to re-test 58.8", it was when the crude painted the similar pattern I posted on 17th June 2015.

Here's another closer look if you took note of the pattern and applied on the crude 5min price pattern on 1st July.

I am planning to cover 1/2 positions around $51 and all around $50.

Crude is highy sensitive to the following data:
1) Iran talk - which was extended to 10th July again
2) Tuesday Genscape forecast - before noon
3) Tuesday 4:30pm EST API
4) Wednesday EIA
5) Friday 1pm Bakers Rig Count

Not sure how you trade but I follow those data as close as my gf when I first met her.

*Japanese candlesticks are outdated but still can be used for educational purpose, however price patterns work everytime.
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merci beaucoup!

my trading method is crude. sweat.gif

but i can and do read candlesticks or bars like in your chart.

yeah, i also think at 51.-51.50, the resistance will be very strong. been dropping like a stone for 3 days now.

still early, i'll keep watching, see if it crashed thru 51. just don't wanna leave $ on the table.

a bientot! thumbup.gif
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post Jul 7 2015, 10:08 PM

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latest ...
euro meeting over.
Pshet did not have any WRITTEN proposal at all fir the meeting!
so, nothing hapepens at all.
tmr another meet in which Psheet will make speeches to euro leaders making his case for better terms and quickie bailout !! @#$
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and wti crashes below 51...
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post Jul 7 2015, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 7 2015, 10:09 PM)
and wti crashes below 51...
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teah, nymex 50.99, drops over 3% or 1.40
free falling now ...maybe due to iran-US talan can explort its oil to the over-loaded world market
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Jul 7 2015, 10:23 PM)
lol I laughed whenever saw your invented PM name representing Greeks.

Anyway I guess the important bearishness was this:
"The newly appointed Finance Minister attended the meeting earlier - with empty handed"

It's literally like a newly appointed CFO of what...erhmm maybe MSFT (a bit over-exaggerating but you get the picture) being invited to a conference with others behemoth and he attended the meeting and being asked "what's your new proposal to help the co sustain incoming global economic downturn?" and he answered :" nothing, maybe I will come up with something on Wednesday".

As for voldemort, he has done his job well and enjoying beers with his friends and wife.
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i guess those high class rockers cum begagrs are inexperienced politicians. being GREEDY (or naive?) and attempting to place their ideologist mindset to ask for quick money is not 'encouraged' by the euro ministers as this could lead to poorer nations asking to leave, thereby getting more free money (bailout) for maintaining their status quo (being non productive, leisure and laize faire life, good pensions and state provisions). i wish i live in greek, wearing branded sun glasses, shorts, tanned skins, walking along beaches, and not working like a dog and making peanuts each day locally. Wuh! the great greeks!!!
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QUOTE(Brother J @ Jul 7 2015, 10:24 PM)
You missed the bigger picture, the meeting was being extended so that other parties except Iran can throw their excess oil inventories out to the market before Iran flood it with daily output of double the size of any OPEC.
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true too. at present, open makes up 40% of the world output (bloomberg) and there is going to be loads of oil flooding the world markets, and my RON 95 continues to + + + in prices. sigh ... lesser subsidi by my gomen was annouced late afternoon today... sugar, natural gas, what else? dows need to add another 10-30% to enable my portfolio to sustain my decent living here..... vmad.gif
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dows tumbling now .... i am trying to get few little little fishes soon ...wise or being greedy?

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