QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 22 2017, 12:37 PM)
Work, but not really relevant to this thread!All about ETFs / Foreign Brokers, Exchange traded funds
All about ETFs / Foreign Brokers, Exchange traded funds
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Jan 22 2017, 01:49 PM
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Jan 22 2017, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Jan 22 2017, 01:44 PM) you can include the calculation of buy ILP fund which act as feeder fund into us/world/etc fund (I know some of the local insurance company offer that in regular/single premium plan), just remember that the cost is quite high which about 5% upfront, 1.5% annual fee, and your cost of insurance and monthly fee (anyway, you can use your credit card to pay it and start with small amount). Paying 5% 1.5% annual fees? Better I go with SG UT at 0% SC. |
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Jan 22 2017, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jan 21 2017, 09:21 PM) I slap together a quick calculation regarding forex fluctuation (or actually MYR strengthening continuously). Bro,... if you are thinking of succeeding in investing elsewhere, then it's okay to change now, and pls do not worry abt what might happen to the MYR in future. Even if the MYR should strengthen in future, you would have earned to foreign currency dividends overseas. If you worry abt the exchange rate, and worry abt what to invest in, worrying abt so many things,.. you will never start,... Please have a look and comment. Do keep in mind that I may have left out some details or overlooked some factors. So do point them out and maybe I can improve the sheet to reflect reality better. It's really just a very crude calculation. Conclusion from it is that if the USD/MYR were to go from 4.5 to 3.5 at the end of the 10 years: 1. If you invest more at every four year interval, you'll be getting less 1.6% of your CAGR. (Four years is based on my personal capability to cough up USD10,000, may be different for you) 2. If you invest only once, then it's 2.6%. Probably this is rather big. So if you can wait it out so that the MYR weakens closer to the value when you've invested, you may be able to reduce the percentage. Simulating the continuous strengthening of Malaysian Ringgit over the next 10 years. If you intend to benefit (or profit) from the exchange rate, then yes, if you take the view that the MYR will strengthen again in future, then you put yr MYR into FD or PNB Fixed Price funds now, while waiting for the time to convert after the MYR regains its so-called strength. What I read from what you wrote is you wished to succeed in overseas investments, then focus outside, bro,... change yr money now,...if you're keen on SGX, go buy some SG REITs now,...start earning the dividends. Then you will have a better feel when you see SGD dropping into yr account. |
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Feb 23 2017, 11:12 AM
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Never mind, question have been answered in another sub-forum.
This post has been edited by ILoveLalat.net: Feb 23 2017, 11:13 AM |
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Mar 4 2017, 06:53 PM
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rjb123, I just realised SCB SG is cheap to buy and hold ETF.
Only USD10/0.20% trade. No monthly free/custodian fee. Much better than IB. |
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Mar 4 2017, 07:17 PM
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$10 per trade isn't bad - not cheaper than IB though
Of course IB downside is the monthly fee if you're at less than $100k |
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Mar 4 2017, 07:51 PM
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Mar 4 2017, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Mar 4 2017, 07:51 PM) Pick either 1(1) priority banking with SCB SG (2) saving plan of SGD400/month for 10 years or SGD500/month for 5 years but money is locked for 10 years. Both supposedly give you 3% return (3) Buy UT from them worth SGD50k at 3% service charge (4) Have mortgages with them. |
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Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 07:55 PM) Pick either 1 u mean cant open other bank saving account and then open SCB SG trading account only?(1) priority banking with SCB SG (2) saving plan of SGD400/month for 10 years or SGD500/month for 5 years but money is locked for 10 years. Both supposedly give you 3% return (3) Buy UT from them worth SGD50k at 3% service charge (4) Have mortgages with them. must SCB SG saving account a requirement? |
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Mar 4 2017, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM) u mean cant open other bank saving account and then open SCB SG trading account only? Yes. that's right. To get their trading account, they will need you to open account with them. It's compulsory. I wish we could do that open use other bank account and use their trading platform.must SCB SG saving account a requirement? This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM |
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Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 07:55 PM) Pick either 1 What's the AUM for Priority banking? Couldn't see it on their site.(1) priority banking with SCB SG (2) saving plan of SGD400/month for 10 years or SGD500/month for 5 years but money is locked for 10 years. Both supposedly give you 3% return (3) Buy UT from them worth SGD50k at 3% service charge (4) Have mortgages with them. I actually opened an account with OCBC Securities a while back but never used it as had issues linking it to my savings account. Considering DBS Vickers as I'm interested in their FCA too, need to resolve my CDP account first as I can't remember the details after never using it |
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Mar 4 2017, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM) What's the AUM for Priority banking? Couldn't see it on their site. SGD250k. It include any stocks/ETF that you bought I actually opened an account with OCBC Securities a while back but never used it as had issues linking it to my savings account. Considering DBS Vickers as I'm interested in their FCA too, need to resolve my CDP account first as I can't remember the details after never using it After become priority customer, don't need to pay their USD10/0.20 fees. You pay only 0.18% of what you buy/sell. This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 4 2017, 09:48 PM |
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Mar 4 2017, 09:50 PM
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Mar 4 2017, 09:53 PM
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Mar 4 2017, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 09:53 PM) Well with Priority banking, it beats IB hands down as everything you trade with them is counted (don't need to buy unnecessary investment product) without custodian fees, min fees. Yeah not bad - just a high minimum to get started.Maybe I'll give it a try if I get to SG sometime. |
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Mar 19 2017, 01:05 PM
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Mar 20 2017, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 06:53 PM) rjb123, I just realised SCB SG is cheap to buy and hold ETF. Nah ib is still better. The forex conversion is close to market rates. Scb will kill you in the forex spread. If you can afford to invest 100kusd. Definitely go for ib. Else scb is the next alternativeOnly USD10/0.20% trade. No monthly free/custodian fee. Much better than IB. This post has been edited by orangbulu: Mar 20 2017, 12:47 PM |
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Mar 21 2017, 02:41 PM
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Guys,... just a thing here if you are not already aware,... since this is an ETF thread,... if you have a DBS account, you can just subscribe to one ETF via the DBS/POSB ATM ! It's as simple as that,...
Everybody can buy it,.... just need to have an ATM Card and press a few buttons at the ATM. Yeah,.. need to have some money too,.... |
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Mar 21 2017, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 21 2017, 02:41 PM) Guys,... just a thing here if you are not already aware,... since this is an ETF thread,... if you have a DBS account, you can just subscribe to one ETF via the DBS/POSB ATM ! It's as simple as that,... You are forgetting one thing. If STI is ok. If other country fund there's a maintenance fee Everybody can buy it,.... just need to have an ATM Card and press a few buttons at the ATM. Yeah,.. need to have some money too,.... There are better option to buy foreign ETFS. |
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Mar 22 2017, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 21 2017, 08:19 PM) You are forgetting one thing. If STI is ok. If other country fund there's a maintenance fee Well, this is one quick option that I thought of at the moment,... you can always consider to just walk to the ATM and buy this ETF when the timing is right, I'm not asking you to go buy now !There are better option to buy foreign ETFS. |
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