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wongmunkeong
post Nov 18 2016, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 18 2016, 12:47 PM)
I only know abt US shares abit and US etf abit. Wan buy and keep for dividend / growth.

At the moment, no options or future coz not familiar. Buying in small numbers coz limited capital and wanna test d water.

Should i remain with Sg brokerage ?
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yeah - i'd stay with local or SG brokerage houses.

however please not that the dividends U receive may be "negative" if too small due to the extra charges for "Agents fees" management/transaction. If purely/mostly for capital growth/appreciation, then "no feel on that pain" thumbsup.gif
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post Nov 18 2016, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 18 2016, 12:51 PM)
yeah - i'd stay with local or SG brokerage houses.

however please not that the dividends U receive may be "negative" if too small due to the extra charges for "Agents fees" management/transaction. If purely/mostly for capital growth/appreciation, then "no feel on that pain"  :thumbsup:
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True also.

Now i started with us denominated share listed in Sgx as way to accumulate usd smile.gif

Let me think over again based on what u said.
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post Nov 18 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Nov 18 2016, 12:51 PM)
yeah - i'd stay with local or SG brokerage houses.

however please not that the dividends U receive may be "negative" if too small due to the extra charges for "Agents fees" management/transaction. If purely/mostly for capital growth/appreciation, then "no feel on that pain"  thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 18 2016, 01:19 PM)
True also.

Now i started with us denominated share listed in Sgx as way to accumulate usd smile.gif

Let me think over again based on what u said.
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excellent point - newbies may not know this.

for local brokers handling FX, if u hv too few shares, reits or stocks, the fixed charges in processing can kill the dividend, become negative, a net charge to pay! biggrin.gif

foreign brokers will not have that but tend to have monthly running charges and/or min deposits.

impt to understand the pros and cons of local vs foreign, fixed vs variable charges.

the choice is not always obvious - a matter of type of trades, frequency of trades and size of trades.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Nov 18 2016, 01:38 PM
TSrjb123
post Nov 18 2016, 01:50 PM

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Agree with AVFAN, every investor uses each platform differently.

The only real way to make an informed decision is to write down a few months of trades and do the calculations based on that.

If one is buying regularly, then the options which are now out of reach because of min deposits etc they should be within reach not too long in the future
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post Nov 22 2016, 06:35 AM

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Anyone know of a local broker with fees that are near TDAA? Everyone seems to be charging a minimum of $25 over here. That's pretty painful.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Nov 22 2016, 06:35 AM)
Anyone know of a local broker with fees that are near TDAA? Everyone seems to be charging a minimum of $25 over here. That's pretty painful.
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Its depend on ur budget.
IB offer cheap min transaction cost.
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post Nov 22 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 28 2016, 05:31 PM)
hi rjb,

like u know, i already have IB.

but like to know a bit more about this TDAA.

.. is registration and funds transfer much the same as IB, i.e. online submission of identity docs, then TT the funds?

.. what is min deposit?

.. what min deposit for unlimited intraday trade?

thanks.
p/s... since this is the ONLY thread to find decent foreign brokers info, is it possible u amend thread title so that it is easier for interested parties to find?

there are plenty of people here looking for brokers like IB and TDAA!  biggrin.gif
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There is no minimum deposit to able to trade for TDAA. $2500 is just a recommended initial deposit amount. Answer from TDAA livechat rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 8 2016, 01:25 PM)
How to buy ETFs in Malaysia ?
Do we have a LYN thread on ETFs ?
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Buying ETFs in malaysia is expensive (not talking about Malaysia index which is not worth) as most index are in other currency. The best way is open a Singapore account > open Interactive Broker > direct bank in SGD (they accept SGD) > then use IB exchange to exchange for the currency you want (people say their exchange rates are even better than money changer) > buy ETF you want from the respected market (recommended is Irish Domiciled ETFs to save cost).

Yes. There are 2 threads on ETFs.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2843370
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549

But the bad thing about IB is USD10/months fee for inactivity unless you have USD100k with them then it's free. THe USD10/month will reduce if you carry out enough transaction to cover the fees.
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post Dec 8 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Dec 8 2016, 01:44 PM)
Buying ETFs in malaysia is expensive (not talking about Malaysia index which is not worth) as most index are in other currency. The best way is open a Singapore account > open Interactive Broker > direct bank in SGD (they accept SGD) > then use IB exchange to exchange for the currency you want (people say their exchange rates are even better than money changer) > buy ETF you want from the respected market (recommended is Irish Domiciled ETFs to save cost).

Yes. There are 2 threads on ETFs.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2843370
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3396549

But the bad thing about IB is USD10/months fee for inactivity unless you have USD100k with them then it's free. THe USD10/month will reduce if you carry out enough transaction to cover the fees.
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So this thread will be the ABC on ETFs ?
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QUOTE(David3700 @ Dec 8 2016, 01:54 PM)
So this thread will be the ABC on ETFs ?
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I guess so.
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:17 PM

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Tested TDAA platform. Very confusing.
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:18 PM

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how to test ah?
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QUOTE(lch78 @ Dec 8 2016, 09:17 PM)
Tested TDAA platform. Very confusing.
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TOS (Think or swim)?

If I'm honest since I transferred my TDAM holdings to TDAA I've logged in once and never put a trade through. I assumed the platform is the same
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post Dec 8 2016, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 8 2016, 09:19 PM)
TOS (Think or swim)?

If I'm honest since I transferred my TDAM holdings to TDAA I've logged in once and never put a trade through. I assumed the platform is the same
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Yes. Think or swim.
Still learning how to use it..
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post Dec 9 2016, 02:23 AM

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In case anyone is interested - looks like another way to deposit without charges to IB can be through Citibank.

As USD funding is done to Citibank USA, if you have a Citibank USD account in Malaysia you should be able to transfer USD instantly without any charges.

Limits seem to be $12500 for normal account holders and $25000 for Citigold customers, can do it online too and not necessary to go to the branch.

Will give this a go and report back next week!

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post Dec 9 2016, 02:38 AM

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According to what I found on other forums Citi global transfer service doesn't work to institutional accounts.

Anyway, no harm in trying!
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post Dec 9 2016, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 9 2016, 02:38 AM)
According to what I found on other forums Citi global transfer service doesn't work to institutional accounts.

Anyway, no harm in trying!
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its for personal account only.
How to open citibank usd account?
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post Dec 9 2016, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 9 2016, 09:12 AM)
its for personal account only.
How to open citibank usd account?
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You can just go to one of their branches and open - same as any other bank.

There's a fee though if your balance is under a certain amount.
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post Dec 27 2016, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(rjb123 @ Dec 9 2016, 02:23 AM)
In case anyone is interested - looks like another way to deposit without charges to IB can be through Citibank.

As USD funding is done to Citibank USA, if you have a Citibank USD account in Malaysia you should be able to transfer USD instantly without any charges.

Limits seem to be $12500 for normal account holders and $25000 for Citigold customers, can do it online too and not necessary to go to the branch.

Will give this a go and report back next week!
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boss, hows ur experience with citi??
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QUOTE(asimov82 @ Dec 27 2016, 10:37 AM)
boss, hows ur experience with citi??
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Confirmed with RM - it isn't available for deposits to institutional accounts.

So you can still TT from Citi USD auto IB but normal TT charges apply. At least they have a decent limit ($25K I think) and can be done online unlike Maybank where I need to visit the branch

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