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post Jan 11 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 11:06 PM)
Hello! <3 Jesus Loves ME, You, EVERYONE!
haha.. i just found out this thread, will track it..
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post Jan 11 2015, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 10:53 PM)
Welcome Bro.
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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Jan 11 2015, 10:53 PM)
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So what can i do, or join to be a member tongue.gif
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post Jan 11 2015, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 11 2015, 08:36 PM)
Matthew 6: 19 - 34

"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. 22 "The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, 23 but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! 24 "No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. 25 "Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? 28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, 29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. 34 "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble."

So yeah, I do not want to be anxious and worry about my finance, because I know God is in control.

1 Timothy 6:9, "Those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction."

Its not wrong to become rich and successful, its only wrong if we worship money instead of God. Its wrong if we plot evil ways to gain wealth. To kill, to cheat, to steal, etc just for the sake of getting more money. God knows about our need of money. He will give it to us. He only asks that we seek first the kingdom of God. God blessed Job after testing his faith. God blessed Solomon with wealth and wisdom too.

Having more money does not guarantee us happiness, it will bring despair... So, whether I will buy the RM2 million property is not of any importance. A RM350K property in Sarawak will do too. Heck, properties in East Malaysia are much cheaper compared to KL.

Instead of accumulating so much wealth, we ought to help other people in need, especially smaller churches, to aid missionaries, etc.

I'm happy that God loves us all and blessed us with enough.

Thank you God for your blessing, mercy and protection over us. Without your grace, we are nothing.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 10:58 PM)
So what can i do, or join to be a member tongue.gif
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Nothing really, just be here and fellowship. Share Experiences.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 10:59 PM)
Your first devotion here?  biggrin.gif
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cry.gif cry.gif I love finances, but ain't an idol to me.. just living frugally..

I might need prayer, as no matter how i tried to follow a bible plan to study and meditate on the word of God, somehow I would forget it.. :S
either distracted or something important come out, how can i solve this?
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 10:59 PM)
Your first devotion here?  biggrin.gif
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Of course not.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 11:03 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  I love finances, but ain't an idol to me.. just living frugally..

I might need prayer, as no matter how i tried to follow a bible plan to study and meditate on the word of God, somehow I would forget it.. :S
either distracted or something important come out, how can i solve this?
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The way to be detached from the Love of Money is to focus everything on Christ as your Saviour in this life.
Practically everything in life. How? Pray throughout the whole day. Talk to Jesus even for few minutes. When you're on break time.
Pour out your heart's content to Him.




As for the word of God, one technic of remembering easy is to start by choosing 1 or 2 short Fav verses. Don't try long verses so fast.

For example.

John 10:10.

or

John 15:15.

Keep on repeating it throughout the day. Meditate it. Keep on thinking about it throughout the whole day.
No Problem when you're distracted by something. After that, just come back to it.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 03:29 PM)
One of the problem the words: Purify yourself with confession and repentance, it can lead us away from having faith in Christ subconsciously.

The Bible says Believe in   -->the Lord Jesus and you shall be save.

This statement can cause inexperience believer to have faith in his own confession and repentance rather than Christ and this is very dangerous imo.

It is an example of one extreme end which IMO the devil uses a weapon of confusion that causes many believers to fall into self condemnation.
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it's part of the sermon bro, i did not managed to tap the whole sermon point, thus it might be misleading here
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 11 2015, 11:10 PM)
Of course not.
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Well, it's the first one that I notice where everything you wrote spoke to my heart, it's scriptural.

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post Jan 11 2015, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 11 2015, 11:13 PM)
it's part of the sermon bro, i did not managed to tap the whole sermon point, thus it might be misleading here
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I don't blame you, majority of the Churches in Malaysia have this problem on conveying using the right words and meaning.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 11:17 PM)
I don't blame you, majority of the Churches in Malaysia have this problem on conveying using the right words and meaning.
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i will try ask my pastor for the whole sermon points and post it here, maybe because this is just of of the whole point so we might see it in the wrong way
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2015, 11:14 PM)
Well, it's the first one that I notice where everything you wrote spoke to my heart, it's scriptural.
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OIC. I've been listening to Ps. John Piper's sermons. Felt inspired.
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Jan 11 2015, 11:19 PM)
i will try ask my pastor for the whole sermon points and post it here, maybe because this is just of of the whole point so we might see it in the wrong way
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Actually it's alright, I more or lest know the preaching points because this is quite common.

Many Pastors, they have the right intention in that, they want people to live righteously but the main problem is that because of the culture of Malaysians.
Many are spiritually empty and quite carnal. Some are rebellious. They have no hunger for God, things like that.

So what this preacher do is that, They tend to focus and cause guilt to come on Man, with the hope they'll repent. They think, the more fiery it is, the more Judgements are mete out, the more convicted Man will become.

Many times the common mistakes preacher makes is that they cause the people to be introspective of themselves rather than to understand that

Christ came to save us.

What happens is that,

the focus is change to now to be more introspective of ourselves of what we do rather than focusing on Christ and having Faith in his Finish Work.
Sometime the way preachers preach, is like Christ didn't finish his work.

Don't know if you get me.

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post Jan 11 2015, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 10:06 PM)
Hello! <3 Jesus Loves ME, You, EVERYONE!
haha.. i just found out this thread, will track it..
AM from Calvary in Sabah.. God Bless!<3
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Welcome dude.
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post Jan 11 2015, 11:54 PM

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post Jan 12 2015, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 11:03 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif  I love finances, but ain't an idol to me.. just living frugally..

I might need prayer, as no matter how i tried to follow a bible plan to study and meditate on the word of God, somehow I would forget it.. :S
either distracted or something important come out, how can i solve this?
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Pray steadfastly. Focusing too much on worldly things such as money is idolatry.

You can't love both God and money. Its a sin.

Like you said, "God loves you, me and everyone."

He knows we need money, that's why he's providing enough for us to live upon. God won't bless us if we are focusing our attention away from Him.

Seek Him first, then all will be well.

We cannot escape from sin, that's why we need to constantly repent and seek guidance. Pray so that the Holy Spirit will strengthen our resolve.
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John 4:13 Jesus answered, “Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again,

John 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give them will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give them will become in them a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Jan 12 2015, 09:44 AM

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Bible Devotions with UW

Adam's Sin

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Romans 5:19 (NIV)"For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.


I remember when I mentioned we're sinners not because we sin but because of adam's sin, I rustled some jimmies with raised eyebrow responses. I wrote that on purpose because I wanted to share this devotion today.

Whenever the word is shared preached, it's always important to share it from the context of the Bible.
Man's way of reasoning will say: we are sinners because we sin. That is the natural understanding from our mind, But what does the Bible says?

Please take out your traditional Bible or Digital Bible and turn with me to Romans 5.
Everything is taken in context of Romans 5, the whole entire chapter. Notice that in chapter 5, it starts off by saying in verse 1;

We have been justified by Faith. The Bible is very clear. It is not works, it is not obedience, not the Law but Faith. Learn to trust and have Faith in the Bible because it is the word of God.

We will come to that later why it starts the passage with this. Why Faith.
Then in verse 9 it says we are justified by Christ's Blood. Again. Consistency, justified by our Faith in Christ because of his shed Blood, it's by the Grace of God, NEVER of works and NEVER of the Law.

Why is this important? Because there are some Churches trying to bring back the law, trying to bind believers back to the law. It's either that or they try to mix Law and Grace together. God would not have it. In Fact God forbids it. (Romans 11:6).

Then LOOK CAREFULLY! See from verse 12 all the way to the end, The Holy Spirit is very careful in explaining how we become Sinners. Do you notice the word BY ONE MAN, THROUGH ONE MAN is often repeated?

You will come to realize what I said is correct that we are sinner because of Adam's Sin when you read verse 19:
(NIV) For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

What this verse is saying, because of the disobedience of ONE MAN, Adam, MANY (meaning all of us) were made sinners. We were MADE SINNERS because of ADAM's SIN.
Now that you see what I said is actually how the Bible says it, you may ask me.

Why UW? Why is this important? I'll tell you why and it has to do with the very first verse in verse 1 about justification by Faith.
Many Christian have no problem accepting this, that it's by faith and by grace, etc etc all that, no problem. It has been embedded naturally, maybe indoctrinated for so long we don't really care to ask God why.

But they will have problem when I say this:

There are many places that teaches that we can only gain Salvation when we obey God, failure to obey causes us to sin and therefore what we do may forfeit Salvation. Friend if you understand properly what was just said, THAT IS BASICALLY going back to the old covenant of the LAW! What is the difference really when you hear that being preached so forcefully today? IT IS THE LAW.

You cannot deny it. If you put yourself under the Law, you forfeit grace and also Christ!
Galatians 5:4 (NIV) - You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

or they will try to mix that together with Faith, Law & Grace. But God will not have it.
Romans 11:6 9 (NIV) - And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.

I don't really get you UW, how is this important of how do I know what you're saying is correct?

I'll tell you why this is important.

Romans 5:19 says that we are made sinners because of Adam's sin. In the same breath, We are also made righteous because we obey God? No! Read that verse correctly.

.... so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

There goes what Some Churches teaches that we need to obey God to be righteous and to qualify for Heaven OUT OF THE WINDOW! Who is that ONE MAN who obey that makes ALL OF US Righteous? He is Jesus Christ! Who obedience once again? Yours or Jesus Christ?

I rest my case. Christ did this for your freedom. Why? Because God knows if Salvation depends on your obedience, Nobody in this world will qualify.

I conclude by stating this truth in the Bible.

We are made Sinners because of Adam's Sin and We are made Righteous because of Christ Obedience. (Romans 5:19)

God Bless.




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post Jan 12 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 12 2015, 10:44 AM)
We are not sinners because we sin. We are sinners because we inherited Adam's sin.
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QUOTE(woonsc @ Jan 11 2015, 10:06 PM)
Hello! <3 Jesus Loves ME, You, EVERYONE!
haha.. i just found out this thread, will track it..
AM from Calvary in Sabah.. God Bless!<3
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orait financial jedi... are you selling insurance ? stock broker ? biggrin.gif

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