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post Nov 14 2014, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 08:20 AM)
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only 10 people are active the other 20 just come like once every month or a year.
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These 20 person maybe "smart"... they have CG with church A, CG with church B, CG with church C, and CG with church D.

So these 20 person throw friendships at every CG, and of course all CG leader always remember who didn't show up last meeting brows.gif

at the end, these 20 person has a huge network of CG leaders. Good strategy. Correct or not ? right nor not ? proper or not ? i am not gonna answer that questions
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post Nov 14 2014, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Nov 14 2014, 04:44 PM)
That day I asked for prayers here about getting a job, well the Lord has replied and i got an interview next week. I need the Lord to guide me during the interview. Can you guys teach me how to pray and pray for me as well? Thanks.
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that's not enough ymous biggrin.gif , what if the interviewer sick, or postponed your interview, or bukit bintang got another bomb and everybody schedule screwed up ? brows.gif

1. Pray that Lord guard your process to meet the interviewer.
2. Pray that Lord bless the meeting.
3. Pray that Lord bless the post-meeting paperwork.

Teach how to pray ? in essence just simply talk. Pour out your heart to Lord, Pour out your mind to Lord. the Chrisitian Lord is your Father, also fren, also King, also... last not least... GOD. But rest assures. He Loves you.

Now you probably asked how can my prayer last time got answered ? not because of wording, but many people pray for you. biggrin.gif

Here is my pray for you: u can copy-paste biggrin.gif
Dear Lord Jesus, kindly help ymous again.
Secure the process to the meeting point,
bless the meeting. Let a annoymous1234 say things that makes the interviewer has confidence in ymous.
and bless the post-process until ymous sign contract agreement with syarikat
In the Name of Jesus we prayed... Amen ! rclxm9.gif

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post Nov 14 2014, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 06:38 PM)
where got prosper? These 20 people are too free to attend so many church if its true. I doubt they ever go to another cg, they just lazy to come.

Anyways, cgs got politics one, once they know you are a church hopper, you will not get layan.
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i wrote proper lah, not prosper... biggrin.gif ... some cgs got politics one, cuz their focus is not frenship, but quota.

i assume you can "read" people, can't you ?

i can "read" or perhaps other word feel / sense whether the cell group is welcoming you or not. If welcome then have some fun lah... sow and reap ? sow frenship and reap frenship ?

1 church can have multiple CGs...
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post Nov 14 2014, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 07:15 PM)
cell group welcome you on first day, but second and so on, they will go back to normal, the rest is up to you. You can read all you want, if you just walk into a cg, unassuming, you don't even know anyone there and you don't have a track record of attending that church, chances are, they will "read" you.

If you go there to just look for girlfriend, the leaders can read you from far far away. And you are not going to have a joyous time there.
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correct..., indonesian big churches in indonesia pretty much do this when i scouted for girls hahaha, back 10 years ago...

after lesson learned, i just back at my "original church". Then up this point i prayed, depend on supernatual HS guidance, for me to find a CG that the leader are suitable for my profile. technically is like finding needle in haystack but with Christ there is nothing impossible.

To go inside the circle, you need to find somebody inside the circle to pull you into the inner circle, unless you wanna build your reputation (aka human toils).

same with human toils and GOD's grace. It's not human toils that makes you rich, but at some point, at some time, GOD's appointed time and person intercede with your path and you have breakthrough.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 07:42 PM)
You talk as if HS is your guardian angel that will allow you to avoid pitfalls. HS is your counsellor and will minister to you but it doesn't mean your life will be plain sailing ok.

You will make mistakes, thats part of being human. You'll likely move to 5 or 6 different cgs and by the time you find the cg you want to be in, its time to multiply. Cgs don't last long, it may be fun, there's peer group fun but in 2 or 3 years the demographic make up of the cg will change.

Like my previous cg, it was fun at first, then something happened, one idiot guy tried to go after my host lady. The lady felt harrassed by him, decided to pull out her apartment from being the host site. The guy also left. Then infighting, the host lady's elder brother who is one of the assistant cg leader got bored of doingthe cg work, decided to move to another cg. THen another couple felt the cg wasn't offering what they seeked.

The cg reverted back to boredom.
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i am sorry sometimes i wrote that implying like that. I have trained my mind to see pitfalls as opportunity. It hurts, but GOD's in control. easy to talk, but for the last 8 year i have been in malaysia it always troublesome. always trouble, but i choose to set my mind to see it differently, i see them as training ground / opportunity.

It does hurt and i did nagging and complaining with HS. but eventually, lives goes on. but day by day, same physical condition, renewed mindset.

not happy, but content, and still believe in most of prosperity teaching (i say most of, not 100% all), regardless economy like roller coaster.

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post Nov 14 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 14 2014, 08:24 PM)
I thought Christians guy are decent and don't drink.  rolleyes.gif
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mine and other people may have different mindset. This issue are sensitive fyi

i am more les like carl lentz
tatoo ok, but i don't have tatoo to be honest. but if i want to do tatoo, i know GOD will not condemn me
ear rings ok, same reason like above
going pub ok, same reason like above
drink beer / liquor ok, same reason like above
listen to worldly music ok, watch movie ok, same reason like above

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post Nov 14 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 09:13 PM)
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You have a unique way of dealing with HS. To you HS is like your invisible friend. Though biblically, the scriptures never really indicated this.
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it's scriptural. There is a song: i am a friend of God. Inside it has some scriptures.



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post Nov 14 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 14 2014, 10:26 PM)
Its a song, not a scripture.
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there is a scripture inside
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post Nov 14 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 14 2014, 11:28 PM)
I'm just kidding. hehe..

So you are saying that you are a liberal thinker, yes?

I'm sure some pastors frowned upon its church goers who do all of the above. So, when we are in church, do we pretend to be somebody that we are not so that people won't misjudge us?

I sure don't want to be like that coz I want to portray my true self and at the same time be wary of others lest they judge me for a harlot.  sweat.gif
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liberal thinker sounds like atheism to me hahaha... but i prefered you called me joseph prince follower lah, simpler. i do learn from joel osteen and many preacher that show same values.

when you go to church, try to go to church that you have insider contact, so you will not be alienated.

if you "shopping" for churches, it's better to pretend to be somebody. same like entering new office, keep it low profile. It's only temporary.
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 14 2014, 11:40 PM)
So today I attended a cell group, it was ok, a lot of seniors around. I was the youngest person there. lel.

Majority are married, only a few are not. So, we mingled and shared the Gospel. They seem to be quite friendly and so far very receptive to a newcomer. hehe..

I didn't notice any bald pastor / guy like "The General" mentioned here, so I'm safe.  thumbup.gif

The awkward part was I was too dress-up for the occasion. But its ok, they are not going to condemn me. (yet)  laugh.gif

The food was so nice! We got fried rice, sticky noodles, some roti canai and triple layer pumpkin spice pie for dessert.  drool.gif

So far so good, I'm happy with that.
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maybe the guy patched up his hair cuz pretty lady is coming.... blush.gif brows.gif blush.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 14 2014, 11:44 PM)
No, I don't mean it that way. So, you like Joseph Prince? hehe.. No comment.

Yeah, I am keeping a low profile, keep it cool and only talk when you are suppose to. Coz I talk a lot so I try to zip it especially in church, so many strangers.

I'm checking out who I can talk to and try to find an ally first. I need people in my team. So far none. lel.
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ooo you talked a lot ? that's why u lost ur clubbing fren rite imho... yes this church is new environment, better brush up some church vocabs first before speaking. cuz usually once you earned "a label", it's hard to remove...

find ally ? my suggestion... analyze for 3 months up to 1 year. no need to rush.
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post Nov 15 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 15 2014, 12:22 AM)
One aunty remarked that the Dragon is the symbol of the Devil. She said young lady like me should not have such tattoo. Then she asked me, "How many tattoos you have?"

I told her only one. I lied. Oh God why?!!
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cuz you didn't tell her you like Carl Lenz ? play chess little bit lah sister... use carl lenz as excuse brows.gif
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Nov 15 2014, 06:31 AM)
Hi any christian concert upcoming in malaysia?
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Hi, usually if i found something here, i post in lowyat

http://christianitymalaysia.com/wp/


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post Nov 15 2014, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 15 2014, 12:39 AM)
Yeah ok, next week la. But what if she says "Carl Lenz" is not a Christian coz he got tattoos?  ohmy.gif

They seem to be those by the book Christians. I dont want to mess with them.  sad.gif
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true lah... just say o..o... ya..ya.. ya.. and ignore it... next time he ask keep doing it o..oo.. yaya thing... then maybe one day you can share 2 things:
1. german laser is expensive (1st bullet)
2. carl lenz (final bullet)

i believe u can manage this issue... simple lah..

last not least sorry for being mean sad.gif typing takes time, talking faster... that time was sleepy already (excuse maaaAaaa...........)
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Nov 15 2014, 09:35 AM)
Listen, my dear brothers: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? But you have insulted the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you? Are they not the ones who are dragging you into court? Are they not the ones who are slandering the noble name of him to whom you belong?

If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself,’ you are doing right. But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers.”

tell me, how the fcuk for the poor can help the poor? if u have no $$, help the poor? love others ? help ass? what a joke? just compare the great rich people, and those poor Christians, has nothing, only have so called "holy spirit" and bible, what can they do to save the world, help people for their salvation, and other thing and so on. except from using marketing and brainwashing skill to market this religions and generate more revenue income for their own church.
FACE THE f***ING REALITY dudes, from what i learn from those pastors and bible, EVERYDAY IS END OF THE WORLD, i learn how to self-destructing in a godly way.
eg. for example, i know some people (but not me , i am not so stupid to commit such silly action) destroy certificate , pay so much times and money and parents hard earn money and just waste like that without any responsibility. "and said we must love our parents", by doing these is freaking irresponsible to parents, such decision is so hurtful for parents.
if we cant serve the world, who the hell to feed us in everyday lives? using marketing  strategy and brainwashing method to lure unbeliever to come to church and expect to feed us by giving so called tithe and claim will get blessed by GOD o.0?  be a monk Christians ?( become Buddhist better ) it makes the leader become more incompetent, become good in talking instead of action to solve problems, the cycle keep repeat itself until everyday is the end of world. look at how outsider look down on this religions and they are afraid to tell what their heart felt becoz scare get judgement and punishment by these "face-thicking entities" which failed to admit their fault all the times. and many people left it,
i thought satan control the world according to bible? there are many companies and government manage to take control for all the resources. is jesus want us to starve to death ? why so contradict itself?
depart from world, yes i know if anything related to sinful is harmful.
everything depends on god or angels, THEN? failed to think properly, failed to solve problem for themselves and help others it is suppose to be a light fro the world? end up be what?
everyday living in a delusion and magical world, think like in a dreamworld , any magical thing can happen to their live.
whats the point we have the brain, anything and everything depends on these 'miracles and prayers'. can these entities solve the problems? it solve shiits problems. failed then blame the people. so irony
LOOK at the world, how they create and solve the problems. how they think.
if the churches have problem, what those Christians do ? pray lol, so simple. have fun and eat some 'antidote' to calm down their worries, and escape from the harsh reality and continue sleep, hoping for 'alibaba djinn' to save them, when next day wake up, problem still there, whats the points?
why dont learn to solve itself instead on 100% relying on these spirits, what if suddenly they no response to our situation, die right? (i know got bible quotes that "you must depend on god , by man cant do and this and that and will failed," oh really? look at the reality, now this is the modern times, not ancient time with no much information access and available at that time, thats why the can boost their power proudly)
i personal saw these situation in countless times. i know these "holy spirits' chose people to help according to their criteria so called 'faith' LOL
in real case, those people blindly faith and blindly believe really killed themselves by having these thought.
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relax lah dude... that's what happen if you study / grow in military / dictatorship christian. it's a good virtue, but simply not for everybody, not for you either. so relax...

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Tattoo... Tattoo...
Hillsong Conference 2014 - Carl Lenz



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post Nov 16 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Nov 16 2014, 02:28 PM)
did anyone went to chc kl for their latest stage show?
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i didn't come today, miss the chromeheart state show sad.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 16 2014, 01:12 PM)
Germany are the world leader in laser technology, companies such as Trumpf and Rheinmetall Defence are an example.

Carl Lenz again? I only know he got more tattoos than I am. Sheesh!
Well, that's why we have "The General and Warrior" here to lead us into battle. Haha.. You can be the cheerleader.
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cheerleader ? aiyoo... i am the spy lahh... not cheerleader vmad.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 16 2014, 01:17 PM)
So, I got this text message on Saturday morning from the CG elder telling me that tattoos are bad and evil and all that stuffs.

OK..

Then they want to suggest to meet up and discuss further with me about this issue. I said its not an issue because I'm going to get it remove. I just told them to stop judging me and leave me alone.

Then I got another text message telling me that I am not welcome for next week CG.  mad.gif

That sucks!  sad.gif
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Is the CG belong to a big church ?
did the guys / uncles keep staring at you ?
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Nov 16 2014, 07:16 PM)
...i know the way of these entities works, and all the flaws in current systems....
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you are just human lahh... fly oso cannot, unless with airasia... don't trust anybody, don't trust your own eye, don't trust internet, don't trust your brain.

what if you betray yourself because you are genuine ?
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post Nov 16 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Nov 16 2014, 10:09 PM)
this CG elder seems harsh and legalistic ya. But why don't to meet up and discuss first since u also plan to get it remove?
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CG leader sure jeles laugh.gif

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