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post Nov 12 2014, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 11 2014, 10:59 PM)
Where in the Bible? Please show. Anyway, I'm planning to remove it in December. Laser tattoo removal. hehe..
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Leviticus 19:28, which says: “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.”

please check the actual words, i just copy-paste from internet.
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post Nov 12 2014, 08:51 AM

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Tattoo... Tattoo...
Carl Lenz, Hillsong NYC pastor - not a conventional pastor (picture below)

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My message is hope. See the fact, ask HS, and live your convictions.

for information about Hillsong New York, Carl Lenz, google is still your best fren. But allow me to share 1 material biggrin.gif

http://www.americapreachers.com/christian-...nyc-megachurch/
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post Nov 12 2014, 12:12 PM

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pehkay wow... powerful 2 messages, Post 579 and 521
how long did you swim ? biggrin.gif (ref: Eze 47:1-12)

UW anything new always has resistance lah brooo biggrin.gif ... soon or later they will aceept... be strong in GOD's grace... I will try to post more of hope messages, but without HS revelation, pretty much empty lol...

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post Nov 12 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Nov 12 2014, 02:50 PM)
IN PRAISE OF THE DEVIL

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Just something I found.
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hahaha... since when a creation justify the creator biggrin.gif ? unless your are atheist then it's different mindset of course.
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post Nov 12 2014, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(pehkay @ Nov 12 2014, 01:04 PM)
happy.gif depends on how much the Lord measured us lor.

He is the "man of brass"; Brass = judging, testing, examining us tongue.gif
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hahaha.. i mean how long you spend time in GOD's presence, so you can get that powerful message flex.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 05:55 PM)
Haha. How you know that I am bitter and unhappy most of the time.

Did you even see me in real life?

Just because I happen to be agressive here, you conclude that I am like that in real life.

Shows how shallow you are. Right?

It's pretty easy to say that my views are wrong without any justification.

Your maturity really does not coincide with your age. I feel like I am talking to a twenty something or even a teenager.

Even Decky is probably more matured then you. Says a lot right?
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Maybe your public relation image since day 1 biggrin.gif ?

I also aggressive, and people don't like me. And i know things like this does not go anywhere. It's not only you who feel rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past. I did also, i know how it feel

So i choose to decide to support UW ... at the end it's better have some level of unity, instead of everybody brings their own theology...

company politics ? church politics... it always happen right ? cuz GOD's kingdom always requires team work on nucleus-cell level.
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post Nov 12 2014, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Nov 12 2014, 07:46 PM)
Again, what makes you think I feel " rejected, bitter and unhappy in the past".

That is the problem with you guys.

Never ever consistent. Even in your own post. And you expect to be taken seriously.

You are only good at name calling that's all.

Are you really a developer? With such logic, I doubt it.
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developer works for me biggrin.gif ... i don't do logic. i do politics and managements. i create logic to fit my reason.
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post Nov 13 2014, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 12 2014, 11:10 PM)
....

I mean, its not like I ask my friend to become a Christian too. 

I told her that being a Christian mean I cannot hang out with her going to pubs / clubs anymore. No more of those hedonistic lifestyle. So she can't accept that.

No more tattoo, piercing, etc...Told her my body is sacred. Now belong to Jesus.

She said I'm just faking it. Uh, that really hurt my feelings. I'm praying and reading bible verses everyday, why would I fake that?  shakehead.gif
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Hi Tina, there are many truth i would like to share:
1. You pay the price for declaring you are christian. there is a reward for that.
2. You don't know the freedom like me or UW, therefore based on your best knowledge, best intention, genuine faith, you say something that make your frenship gone.
3. If carl lenz hillonsg nyc open church in KL, pretty much you and your fren can go to carl lenz church. your reason: hey, may pastor has tatoo... well it's only imagination: unless you stay in New York. Here is malaysia.
4. GOD's in control. GOD know what best for you.
5. Just pray, and better ask your cell group to pray for your fren so soon or later she can be like you. Actually somebody pray for you in the past. You probably don't know. It is impossible somebody like you can be saved simply because you google... there is a load of spiritual warfare that prevent somebody to know Christ, and somebody intercede for you. They won, you receive Christ. Now you can continue the legacy.
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post Nov 13 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 11:08 AM)
I am rather the opposite. Most of my friends are unbelievers except one special person I know who is a christian.

Reason being? I felt betrayed by my christian peers. Like the church I am currently attending for 6 blasting years not even one friend I can trust. My previous church of 6 years, not even one person kept in touch. When I moved from one cg to another, because the cg leader moved his cg to wednesday which was inconvenient to me, the previous cg leader don't even bother to say hi when he see me at church. Some of the church people are so fake, I know them for so many years, invite them for some stuff, they just ffk me. Its not even to decline my invitation ! Instead they say, i will come lah, but when i go there, i kena ffk. After i confront these people why you do this to me? Then they start to reveal a long laundry list at me, about why they have problem with me.

Not like my unbeliever friends. If they have open house, they will invite right away. I have 20 years since childhood/kindergarden friendship with some of my unbeliever best friends. They got YEE HEI, when they say they do this, they will do it. Not like the christians at my church, they just promise me something, and then next day, they pull out their promise and give me a long laundry list of complains.

Some of my unbelieving friends even invite me to their house, share with me their food stuff, even give me gift bags of expensive food stuff to bring back to my family. Not like the hospitality i get from my church peers. Like my youth church, they play so much politics at me. Then last time when they don't have enough quorom, they invite me to their christmas party, and ask me to pay RM60 fee. Then when I paid, go there, sit there like statue, they totally ignored me. When they got their quorom, they just treat you like you are nothing. Neh, that Cheras Tmn Billion church. Crap church.
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wanna drink beer with me ? beer factory at setia walk is ok2x price... Tina ur welcome to come too...
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 01:27 PM)
I have unbeliever friends that are triad gangsters, yet they have more loyalty and integrity than those whom i met at church. At least they are forthright honest about who they are. Unlike those at church who profess righteosness but I see before my eyes, they bully other weak minded christians and socially outcast them. Some of these joker christians are born into christian families.
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allow me to ask biggrin.gif ... open discussion ok ... anonymous anyway ..

why do you need friendship badly ? isn't that 1 Christ is enough ?

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 13 2014, 01:41 PM)
allow me to ask biggrin.gif ... open discussion ok ... anonymous anyway ..

why do you need friendship badly ? isn't that 1 Christ is enough ?
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Nov 13 2014, 02:56 PM)
Ask yourself this, from young till you die don't make friends with anyone got church service will do after service go home don't socialize with church members then you die nobody know who re you at all.

Remember the greatest commandment that Jesus laid out love your neighbours and enemy as you love yourself

Jesus also said there is no greater love than this that a man die for His friends
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the keyword is badly biggrin.gif

i need a friendship, but i don't need a friendship badly. I still have Jesus laahhhh biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Nov 13 2014, 03:09 PM)
i wonder, is it any way ask holy spirit to leave? i saw  alot Christians convert to atheist or Buddhism.
but the holy spirit still there and keeping harass the converter.
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yes, but impossible.

see this allegory: is it possible to kill all animals in the sea ? yes, drain the sea. Possible ? i don't think so.

Holy spirit works to convert back lost people, because church are praying.
Stop church from praying, Holy spirit will stop. Is is possible to stop church from praying ? i don't think so.



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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 04:41 PM)
If you don't need friendship, why are you in this forum ? Why you want to go out with tiharnian and invite me out for a drink? Come on lah, we are human beings, we are designed and build by God for the purpose of relationship. God also yearns for relationship, thats why he created us.

Relationship with other human beings are tough. It takes a lot of effort but mind you once you build that long trusting relationship, it is quite fruitful.

If 1Christ is enough then why he needed 12 Apostles to be around him to help him do his ministries and to impart his spiritual power to them?
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as i say in post 360, the keyword is badly.

i need friendship, but i don't need friendship badly. Still have Jesus lahhh... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 05:07 PM)
I didn't say I need friendship badly. After 6 years not even one friend there. It is very bad ok. I have better odds at the office than church.
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oh i see...

when you complain with the church leaders, and people retaliates back, there is a evil spirit / cursed at work. Some people called it bitterness, some people called it rebellion spirit, it's basicly the same thing.

when you play computer games, you will recalled things called status effect
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_effect

curse / evil spirit always work on "debuff" mode to you. confirmed. John 10:10

How to detect, the best approach is to ask HS is there any "debuff" in your life or not. let me know, then i can pray for you, or at least i can ask HS how to pray for you.
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 05:42 PM)
thanks but no thanks.

Nooooo...hello? People retaliate back because we are fallen human beings plague with sin. We are not cursed by evil spirit lah...hellooooo...but we are cursed by sin thats why we are mortal and our bodies are succeptible to disease. The devil has to ask God for permission, if he wants to attack us christians ya know, this is the special privaledge we have.

I think you play too many computer games, fren. You should cut down.
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bro.. the word has power, even worse, the word of the believer... bible say the life and death (gamer say: buff and debuff) is in the power of tongue.

dr masaru emoto has prove it



don't tell me your billion park church never tell bad things about you...
don't tell me your billion park church never dislike you, verbally or not verbally...


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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 05:42 PM)
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The devil has to ask God for permission, if he wants to attack us christians ya know, this is the special privaledge we have.
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The devil yes, but your "botak leader" is not devil... biggrin.gif

and because he is a leader, his word carry some power and anointing like it or not... and worse, he used it to say a word that is against you... because he still have flesh... every powerful chrisitian be it a leader or not, still have flesh blush.gif

but Jesus loves you too, that's why HE gives you authority to "debuff" all that your "botak leader" did to you ...

devil only "pawn"-ing your botak leader through his flesh... no it's not devil... it's ur "botak leader"... get the concept ?
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QUOTE(yan7 @ Nov 13 2014, 06:04 PM)
allegory, why dont ask and know the reason for those ex-Christians left ? lose faith?
being realistic a bit. thank you. its is not about dream world we live now,
not every time are human fault, some entities are in fault too.
coz love cover their sin, everything, that why become blindly listen ,blindly accept, and blindly eat sweety shhitt all the time.
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mindset issue: we christian, we think ourselves as creation. therefore who can audit / check n balance / QC (quality control) creation ? only creator.

this may not answering ur question, but at least if we have common understanding how is creation and who is creator, then ok lah, can discuss.

sorry i don't know whether you are atheist or not so if you share ur belief, maybe our colleague here can try to explain... christian mindset lahh... christian forum anyway smile.gif
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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 07:10 PM)
More like you get the concept or not? the devil will continue pawning the botak leader and he won't change.

Its like this, if you wife keep on having affairs, then what is the point of staying together?
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true, at least you can debuff whatever he did to you in the past...
your body is water based, the water quality drops whenever he say bad things to you.

you are right... leave him biggrin.gif but don't forget to debuff all he did to you in the past.

I assume you know how to debuff lah ya.... by prayer n declaration.

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QUOTE(General Fahmy @ Nov 13 2014, 07:32 PM)
aiya talk to cow come home, we both also cannot come to agreement. I have little further to say after this.

what is there to rebuff?

people are like that one, so I mind as well go my separate way. But mind you, if somebody bring something up, I have to opportunity to tell the person this place offer bad service. Just like a restaurant, I go eat there, I find the food and service bad, I never come back. Then i overhear somebody wanna eat at this restaurant, I will provide my feedback.

But having said this, don't misunderstand me, I am not saying a church must offer service to people. I am just likening the church kindness to the level of satisfaction you get when you go to a restaurant.
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This is what i mean debuff. Simple prayer / declaration like this:

In the name of Jesus, I declined all negative words that "botak leader" have said to me.
I receive only what GOD's want me to receive.
I recalled he called me aaaaaa then i decline his words in the name of Jesus.
I remembered he yelled at me bbbbbb then i decline his words in the name of Jesus.
I recalled he lambasted at me cccccc then i decline his words in the name of Jesus.

(keep adding as necessary, HS will reveal anything that "botak leader" had say in the past that makes you hurts)

My identity is secured in Christ.
I am beautifully made.
I can do all things through Christ who strengthen me.
I am highly favored, I am secured as secured as the LORD's apple eye.

I ... (keep adding positive things that you think you get from HS)

aaaaaa ,bbbbbb, ccccccc are things revealed by HS, anything that does not build you up, anything that outburst of emotion, anything that hurts people whether small hurts or big hurts...

hopefully beneficial for you biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 12 2014, 11:10 PM)
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I told her that being a Christian mean I cannot hang out with her going to pubs / clubs anymore. No more of those hedonistic lifestyle. So she can't accept that.
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QUOTE(de1929 @ Nov 13 2014, 11:23 AM)
wanna drink beer with me ? beer factory at setia walk is ok2x price... Tina ur welcome to come too...
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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Nov 13 2014, 10:58 PM)
tina surprise ? are you concern i am not christian enuf for you brows.gif

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