he keep pushing his believe to other who may not wanted it despite me repeating reminded him not everyone walk on the same path as him, i find it very annoying and it may deter newcomers or new believers from sharing here like what he did to tinarhian

i believe that we should take 1 step at a time if we wanted to show others our faith not immediately force it on other, you are scaring other from coming in again like what he did to a new comer today. God does not teach us that way

the bible teaches us to be patient in everything we do and trust in God for He will show us the way.

For Jesus can bear the pain by being crucified on the cross for our sins also the whipping and crown of thorns that he was forced to don, this requires an immerse strength and patients. why must he rush to things?



This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Dec 21 2014, 01:01 AM

hihi, I like churches especially the traditional kind, like catholics and probably anglicans (havent been into one). I would like to attend christmas celebration in church, anyone can recommend which church and time? may or may not be traditional churches. thanks!

If I'm not mistaken, I think He just felt that He's being attacked (in a way) for sharing something that's good that should benefit other Christians.
I think He's offended as well.

It's a bit hard for him to understand not everyone may be ready for that. This part, I'm trying to convince him.

And yes I understand that, Even Sophiera was not spared. (poor Sophiera)

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 21 2014, 01:05 AM

depends on where you stay.

If KL, head over to Wesley Methodist Church KL for a traditional christmas celebration.

If you don't mind contemporary, head over to Calvary at Bukit Jalil. They'll be having a Christmas musical and Christmas service after the musical.

may i know the time and dates?

This post has been edited by laceruffles91: Dec 21 2014, 01:10 AM

Both starts their service this 25th Dec Christmas at 9AM in the morning.

My advise, be there early (maybe 8.30 am) to avoid insufficient car park and things like that.

Good Night guys, preparing for tomorrow Sunday Service.

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thanks
unfortunately, I might only be free during the evening and night
are there churches that celebrate in the evening or night?

FYI, I don't agree with Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, Joseph Prince, etc, brand of ideology. IF you believe in them, then be my guest. Please dont force me to accept your ideology. Thank you.

Please dont judge the writer as well. And I think Pastor John Piper is right about prosperity gospel.

If you are so concern about being a worldly Champion and over-comer of all things, then by all means, go ahead. Who's stopping you? Again, I dont want to follow your ideology. I just want to follow the true teachings of Christ.

What makes you think I even wanted to follow Joel Osteen?

I have identified my Christ and I'm dumping all this non sense brand of false Christianity. I hope you understand my stand.

http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2014/05...misuising/32019

Well, I am not easily swayed by his "messages". Quite hilarious to read at times but heck, aren't we all Christians to have fellowship together?

Its true that he have a good intentions but I think he's too focused on worldly things instead on God's Word.

Yes, I thank God that He have blessed me with good health and wealth but I would put a serious emphasis on understanding the Word.

I am trying to see beyond a person bad character. But instead trying to understand what Jesus said about "Love thy neighbour."

Not an easy task for a newcomer but I'm trying. With God's grace, nothing is IMPOSSIBLE.

I know of a small church that practiced "double standard" and the pastor always judged the church members.

Plus, I heard that church remained stagnant and its new membership growth is very, very slow...

No, I didn't attend that church, in case you are wondering.

So why God wouldn't let this church grow?

Maybe he wants attention?

Can you convince him to listen to John Piper?

When de1929 rambled, nobody is spared. I wonder what are they teaching him in that church? Or is He teaching?

Indeed tak pasal pasal kena hentam for something I can't control.

I have one word to sum up everything:

Darwinian.

If tak percaya read over again. Only the strong succeed statements.

sophieeeee ... Darwin stole from Bible lahh the term only strong survive ... i can explain more if you want.

huh... didn't i ask you to join drink beer with me and my buddies ? the keyword is my buddies. My buddies supports me. Where are you know ? caregroup-less ? fighting with ur leader ?

Placeboo effects does not work under John Piper mindset. In short, i can't support John Piper teaching.

I personally welcome you to ask in this thread. Like i said, placeboo effects is GOD's grace.

Bro UW,

Why these people disturb me on the first place ? they always start first. Not me.

tell them to leave me alone and i will not bother with them.

Yeah, I've read it. As usual, he always blabbering nonsense.

Why would I join you for beer when you are an egoistic and chauvinistic person?

Typical de1929, when he cannot win over an argument, he had to resort to personal attack.

I'm still in the same church and cg. I had a disagreement with the cg elder. So, is it your business? Stop being a busybody. Would you like it if I meddle with your affairs?

You just love to be holier than thou, are you not?

So now we are getting somewhere. You do not like John Piper because his teaching doesn't suit your worldly needs.
His mindset is not attune to yours. Big deal. At least John Piper preached the truth. Too bad that you are blinded by this fact.

You like to talk about wealth and brag about this and that. Its a natural desire to accumulate wealth but to focus so much on wealth at the expense of doing or listening to God's work, is not ok, its sinful.

So, its the same with your Joel Osteen, I don't agree with his teaching. So I do not support him.

You want to support him, be my guest. Just don't force other people. Is that so much to ask?

nobody like to disturb anybody, your action prompt people to put the facts right

as i have always said from the first place, let people choose their own path not you choose for them.

btw mind if you stop this worldly things aside for christmas? let it slide for 1 week till after new year

Christmas is coming what is everyone plan?

today i saw lot church have event, many car