Just calm down.

Every translation necessarily bears the understanding of its translators. In bringing the ancient text into a modern language, the translators must first understand the original in terms of the original and, in many cases, interpret the original. Every translation, then, is the record of the translators’ understanding of the original text. So definitely, there is, are "baggages".

2. Refute all? Very unlikely. You have 2000 years of research, translation, interpretation, text criticism etc. There is no way to make up things.

1. I think you don't have to do that. Of course, every translation of the Bible embodies a philosophy about what the Bible is, about the relation of its writers to God, and even about God Himself. The trend today is away from a more literal rendering of the ancient text toward a more literary one; newer translations seek to make the Bible easy to read and understand.

If that is your concern, then stay with the literal translations and only refers to the "easier to read" rendering for some references.

Also you don't have to ask the Spirit for these things.

Christians can be likened to a train. There needs to be the fuel inside as its energizing power. But a train needs to have tracks outside as well. If there is fuel within but no tracks without, the train would not be able to run. Even if it runs, problems will arise. However, if there are only the tracks without, but not the fuel within, the train may be on the right track, but it cannot move. Therefore, for a train to run, and to do so smoothly, there must be the coordination of two aspects: the inner aspect and the outer aspect. Outwardly, there must be the regulation of the tracks; inwardly, there must be the energizing of the fuel.

It is the same with us. We have the Spirit within and the Bible without. Unfortunately, throughout the ages, Christians lean either toward the Spirit within or toward the Bible without. Even today, many people are doing the same. Those leaning toward the Spirit within very much condemn those leaning toward the Bible without, saying to them: “What you are reading is but dead letters. Every day you are just using your mind to study the dead teachings. The letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. Only we are living in the Spirit.” Those tending toward the Bible without would likewise condemn those who stress the Spirit within, saying to them: “What you have is just emotions. There is only excitement and stirring up, but no stability.

The Spirit and the Bible are two sides of one matter. The leading of the Spirit does not contradict the revelation in the Word. Therefore, in studying the Bible, there is again the danger of being one-sided. (Be a bird with 2 wings)

de, don't go overboard 'obsession' until psychology rosak 

Said rightly.

Also, I think the ESV and NASB are more "word for word" so it's more closer to the original greek/hebrew, while stuff like NLT or The message involves more paraphrasing by the translators (who understand the greek).

One problem is that languages are not always easy to directly translate. Try translating a sentence in indon/chinese to English directly and you'll see how it'll lead to some weird translations.

e.g. Nama saya Decky  becomes  "Name me Decky"  which is far from what the original sentence means. That's why scholars work so hard to make sure they're extremely faithful to the original manuscripts, and they make sure the manuscripts are pure and not corrupt. These scholars are usually large groups of scholars that work together to ensure a good translation is produced for the masses.
And yes, the holy spirit is working through all of these scholars as Pehkay says.

canonization ma

Don't know why someone in my company always 'attack' me and seem like wanted me to leave the company or my position so badly.

Thanks UW. Now left 2 more months to work.

I have been receiving calls from companies almost twice per weak.
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Is this a slut's dress? Puh-lease.

I've seen girls in local churches that wore shorter and tighter dress compared to this.

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Yeah that church something like that. Crappy people, they practice double standards. Their own cronies can dress up how they want but the "outsiders" sure kena lambasted for their dressing code.

I actually don't see anything wrong with girls dress nice on a Sunday church. ...

No la don't say like that la. I am a flawed human being. Don't play play with temptation of sin, it cannot be underestimated.

Genesis 39:11 (Joseph and Potiphar's wife)

11Now it happened one day that he went into the house to do his work, and none of the men of the household was there inside. 12She caught him by his garment, saying, "Lie with me!" And he left his garment in her hand and fled, and went outside.

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I am not saying you should flee from sin because temptation is all around us. For example, if I walk around Melbourne, suddenly i stumble on a Men's Gallery billboard, Men Gallery is a stripper joint in Australia. So you can't avoid.

But if you can avoid, why go and browse a yoko picture? I am no saint la, but all i can say is, don't go testing yourself and wrestle with sin. You are asking for it.

Bro Dee,

problem must be dealt at the root (akar).

That's what Jesus meant when he said about plucking out your eyes if it cause you to lust.

Jesus was speaking figuratively to make us think. What he meant was everything starts at the heart and mind.

We need to be convince and agree in our mind and heart, that these things is something God the Father sees as destructive.

Because it will destroy us. And you need to remind yourself, you are made righteous in Christ, so don't go back to what you are not.

You have been made clean and has given you the power of the HS to be free from all these. You are under Grace. You  can do all things through Christ.
But it doesn't mean you should go looking for trouble.

What I mean is this: Avoid even looking at whatever pictures that will stimulate. If have, in your pc have those lust type of videos, delete it permanently.
All these are only on the surface prevention. What will really help is prayer! And I believe prayer works because Father God answer them!

Yea but it doesn't mean we go and hold a snake just to test how strong we are.

I am not a perfect person, I got my own flaws. But I tell you this, don't play a fool with sin. The one behind the sin is very cunning.

If you mean to have a mindset not to look at the pictures at the beginning, yes.

If you mean to pick up the magazine and then  try and use your strength to avoid looking....... , don't think that will work.

The problem is that all of us Christian still have the flesh. Now I must make clear, We are not the flesh neither are we sinners anymore, that is not our identity.

Though we have been renew in the spirit, But the problem is we are still stuck in our old body which have the flesh.

Romans 8:7 (NAS) - because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so,

That is why I believe this will only work through prayer. Our mind and will power is powerless to submit to God when it comes to abstaining from lust.

Haha, the way you describe "voluptous" seem that you are already aroused. 

Its up to you lar, if you want to use this way to train yourself to withstand sin.

We've already got enough temptation to sin in life, and you wanna add on to your overflowing lists of temptations. LoL

Trust me, there's gonna be more trials coming to test our hearts, you don't have to be looking for them.

Bro I hope you dun get angry but that is trusting in self confidence.

And anything that is from self is not of Christ. Anything that is not of Christ is powerless.

And the flesh is powerless to submit to God. God's word is never wrong bro.

I know you're teaching us to be combat ready to fight lust but Jesus never teach us like that when it comes to the lust of the eyes. 

He wants us to deal at root level. Root Level means it start from your heart and mind. 5 seconds already means you are engaging outside of your heart and mind.

Why am I seeing pictures of women and talk about their figure in this thread?

De, it was really disrespectful for you to ask a girl how sexy or "curvaceous" she is. And how on earth is that related to Christianity?

Why am I seeing pictures of women and talk about their figure in this thread?

De, it was really disrespectful for you to ask a girl how sexy or "curvaceous" she is. And how on earth is that related to Christianity?

Uhm, I think this is really inappropriate. You remind me of the guy that keep staring at me in church.

I just pretended to smile back, but actually I was like this.



I am definitely not skinny and chubby. So, I settled for "in between".
They can blast the aircon at full power, hehe, I'm used to cold weather, its the Malaysian weather that I cannot stand.

The devil is pretty "controversial" too.
Just saying.

Well, girls look at guys too, without the "pornographic thoughts".

I don't think all guys are immune, they just know how to suppress their (lustful) thoughts into something positive.

I understand a guy's POV. Its hard to control the flow of blood for two of the most vital organs in the male body. Its either up or down. You can't have both ways. Simple science. 

But 1 Corinthians 6:18 said, "18Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body. 19Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? 20For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body".