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 Property Bubble & Its Social Impact V13, LYN famous DDD Vs UUU Thread

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cfa28
post Nov 10 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 10 2014, 03:08 PM)
Current property concept, design or even location will be idea or suited for lifestyle in 10, 20 or 30 years time?
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nobody has a crystal ball to see into the future 20 to 30 yrs from today.

Am just explaining why some new launches in the same general area cost so much more compared to existing older properties in the same general locality.

However today buyers seem to demand G&G, Lifestyle living and think this trend will continue going forward with newer and more trendy concepts like double frontage.

QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:11 PM)
due to this above factors, the main problem was the flippers/investors also incorporated their expected profit into the high price, right? that is the most glaring problem with property price today..
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Nobody buys a scarce product and resell at the same price.

The Laws of physics says that "two objects cannot occupy the same space simultaneously". Hence if you have bought a house, it means that there is one less house and with a growing population (Demand), and supply being limited, prices must increase.

The only question is by how much?



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post Nov 10 2014, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:14 PM)
I don't know wtf u r trying to express, too long don't bother to read.

My intention is only to point out that Setia City Mall is very happening during weekends. Full stop.
U elaborate ur own bullshit story and theory after my phrase. What's wrong with u bear?  rclxub.gif
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that is why, we understand what and where you are coming from, pasar malam everywhere also got crowd lor.. kampung, sabak bernam, ijok and etc.. property price up or not? sabah sarawak also full house one... acces roads also dun have...
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:12 PM)
oh, like this, so what is next? I am from Penang, so sabak bernam nearer too? using my brain capacity ... trying to max out the relevance...
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I'll make it simple for u.

I said from Sabak Bernam to Setia Alam THE DISTANCE IS NEAR TO ME.

Then u give out tons of rubbish arguments.

U said u r from Penang. Far or not far ask urself la, use ur bloody brain to think la. Wanna ask me ka kid?

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:17 PM)
the pack of wolves here are not, young and wanted fast cash one, all talks about holding props are BS, want to keep bubble threads shut is utmost important to them... the everyday say not going to happen, and we should not comment negative, if there are no truth, how you comment also do not make any difference..
these concept are a piece of allurement to target young working buyers, some uncles also think they are young too... but nvm, they will be heavily debt..

till to date, the investors are not answering merely where their project s are since they are so positive with market, if you holding 300k prop, telling 500k and 700k are good of course you see bubble, got so many ppl "alas kubur"

the young have been playing well with fear if not buying now, but the bank do not play along... and some already opt for new launch of which are priced lower or the same with sub sales price..
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told u one of the biggest culprit to inflate price is your ex chairman, the banana man mah..... brows.gif brows.gif
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post Nov 10 2014, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 10 2014, 12:11 PM)
Why so many lazy readers who just want a conclusion, if every thing in this world is a just an conclusion then no need to take effort in life liao.  doh.gif

Read lah, basically developer want govt to lift the cooling measure, they want the good old sapu like no tomorrow time to come back, after the frenzy end they can sit down goyang lp for few years, so they kao pek kao bu, Si Boh Si Ang,  Si Kia Si Sun, says business very cham  cry.gif

But many think no all the coolling measure are to be lift off, as some measure are to ensure long term sustain of the entire industry & the general economy as a whole, in fact there are rising number of people in their 65 & above still hutang property mortgage.

If you want simplest conclusion, Developer paid people to write lots of article to pressure Singaland govt to removed cooling measure particularly Tax on 2nd, 3rd properties, allowed PR to buy with same term as citizen, because new China import PR is among the biggest buyer previously.

Like Ah Bear day & night post in LYN to create fear factor so that owner will let go at 10-20% less..  laugh.gif
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post Nov 10 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:20 PM)
that is why, we understand what and where you are coming from, pasar malam everywhere also got crowd lor.. kampung, sabak bernam, ijok and etc.. property price up or not? sabah sarawak also full house one... acces roads also dun have...
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Again bear u r giving misleading comment again.

Sabak Bernam includes Sekinchan tau ka? Any idea how high is Sekinchan property prices? More or less same with KV prop price!

U always drag in irrelevant info trying to defend ur statement. Compare apple to apple! Setia Alam and Semenyih ada sama ka? Sohai.


My piece of advice for u: Don't bullshit on the field u dunno kid. Even wanna bullshit do some research before!
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post Nov 10 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:22 PM)
I'll make it simple for u.

I said from Sabak Bernam to Setia Alam THE DISTANCE IS NEAR TO ME.

Then u give out tons of rubbish arguments.

U said u r from Penang. Far or not far ask urself la, use ur bloody brain to think la. Wanna ask me ka kid?

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take it easy bro..... anybody who buys prop that he doesnt in favour or "approve is "stupid or silly" in his mentality.... tongue.gif tongue.gif

We are here to entertain him or helping him to allow him to release fustration and pressure from getting his first house.... brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Nov 10 2014, 03:31 PM)
take it easy bro..... anybody who buys prop that he doesnt in favour or "approve is "stupid or silly" in his mentality....  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

We are here to entertain him to allow him to release fustration and pressure from getting his first house....  brows.gif  brows.gif
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post Nov 10 2014, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:29 PM)
Again bear u r giving misleading comment again.

Sabak Bernam includes Sekinchan tau ka? Any idea how high is Sekinchan property prices? More or less same with KV prop price!

U always drag in irrelevant info trying to defend ur statement. Compare apple to apple! Setia Alam and Semenyih ada sama ka? Sohai.
My piece of advice for u: Don't bullshit on the field u dunno kid. Even wanna bullshit do some research before!
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who is kid we all well know... Sekincan u no buy come buy KV for what? no full house paparich, no full house old town one, price also more or less same, means badly speculated, the property price has tier of price.... means location is still the primary concern and choice..

check through I prop, 1 page only sekinchan prop...

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

no wonder, no see old town, mamak, paparich full house... sekincan mentality...
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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 10 2014, 01:49 PM)
Exactly bro, I might as well predict 4D bcoz IT IS a tikam game.
I don't play tikam with investment bcoz you turn investment into gambling liao.
THere's a fine line between the 2 and some ppl may got themselves in trouble like that.
Of coz there are some risk involve but lower the risk by not gambling ma?
Siboh? ...  nod.gif
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Looks like u really knock out your opponent liao woh....... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:40 PM)
who is kid we all well know... Sekincan u no buy come buy KV for what? no full house paparich, no full house old town one, price also more or less same, means badly speculated, the property price has tier of price.... means location is still the primary concern and choice..

check through I prop, 1 page only sekinchan prop...

http://www.iproperty.com.my/property/searc...=&au=&sby=&ns=1

no wonder, no see old town, mamak, paparich full house... sekincan mentality...
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Let me give a tip kid. Don't bother check Sekinchan prop from property portal. Transcation usually by agent or just spread the news from pasar. But it's no secret on the price list.

Again I didn't state whether I buy Sekinchan prop or not. U r GUESSING again. And how sure r u I'm from Sekinchan? brows.gif

So according to ur analogy I can't buy KV prop if din buy Sekinchan prop ka? wtf r u saying bear? shakehead.gif


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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:19 PM)
nobody has a crystal ball to see into the future 20 to 30 yrs from today.

Am just explaining why some new launches in the same general area cost so much more compared to existing older properties in the same general locality.

However today buyers seem to demand G&G, Lifestyle living and think this trend will continue going forward with newer and more trendy concepts like double frontage.
Nobody buys a scarce product and resell at the same price.

The Laws of physics says that "two objects cannot occupy the same space simultaneously". Hence if you have bought a house, it means that there is one less house and with a growing population (Demand), and supply being limited, prices must increase.

The only question is by how much?
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:40 PM)

no wonder, no see old town, mamak, paparich full house... sekincan mentality...
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Bear, watch ur word. U can't win the argument then u opt for personal attack?

What do u mean by sekinchan mentality? shakehead.gif

R u condemning all the ppl who stay in Sekinchan? shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Nov 10 2014, 03:53 PM)

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Pauli exclusion principle under quantum mechanical principle tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ykit_88 @ Nov 10 2014, 03:53 PM)
Bear, watch ur word. U can't win the argument then u opt for personal attack?

What do u mean by sekinchan mentality?  shakehead.gif

R u condemning all the ppl who stay in Sekinchan?  shakehead.gif
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'why angry already, young blood sure gushing one, no worries it all understandable, better go around and check the property more and see hwy is it vacant despite long time vp... the setia alam mall do not have enough residents to service, they all come from else where and not resident of seia alam, how often you go there?

what you want us to expect, telling old town , paparich full house, mamak full house, we never see these b4? like we never see before.. other than the conclusion playing in your mind now what else can we expect?
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 10 2014, 08:32 AM)
To make the thread more of "Everyone" thread, i will paste posting with sense to the first page of the thread.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Nov 10 2014, 03:59 PM)
' the setia alam mall do not have enough residents to service, they all come from else where and not resident of seia alam, how often you go there?
Again u r playing GUESSING game. I go city mall very often bear, very often.


Pathetic bear, pathetic.

So that's the best u can offer.

Can't win the argument, condemning everything. rolleyes.gif

U srsly need help kid. icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 10 2014, 01:22 PM)
You compare those example to predicting the market ah????
Those are related one's own effort when to do thing while the market is the action of the mass (not own action) at a certain time.

It's like you ask me to predict when the next time you need go toilet to pee. Then I tell...dont ask me to predict the timing bla bla bla...bcoz it is bullsh!t. If i'm good at predicting, I might as well predict 4 digit toto.

Want to give anology also guna otak la ....  doh.gif
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At the end of the day, you are not confident enough like me to make prediction tongue.gif
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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Nov 10 2014, 01:44 PM)
I wrote:

I challenge you to post your rental or selling price double the market price now.
Don't rent out or sell until u got takers for that price.

You dare or not? Why telor kecut ah?

Lets just stick to rent only la for sake of discussion.
You so confident to predict then increase your rental 7.5% above market price.
Bcoz according to YOUR prediction ... one year from now ... 7.5% increase mah ....
You play trading with own properties la ...

OR

Do you rent out according to market price first? Secure a tenant and sign tenancy agreement with 7.5% increase one year from now?

OR

Do you rent out according to market price first? Secure a tenant and sign tenancy agreement with 2+1 years. With the +1 year as an option to increase rental ACCORDING to MARKET RENTAL PRICE of that TIME?

Third option is the usual practise right? ... so predict for what???
Who knows what FED, BNM, China BOJ etc... gonna do one year from now? .... doh.gif
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DDD talk about crash, why suddenly talk about rental ? doh.gif

No confident the market price will crash ? rclxub.gif

You can start a new thread about rental if you want. I will be there giving comment as well icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(eddycyh @ Nov 10 2014, 03:55 PM)
Pauli exclusion principle under quantum mechanical principle  tongue.gif
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Boss.... this is too chim for a BTC like me already..... tongue.gif tongue.gif

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