bearbear, long term average for property in malaysia is in fact always up. History tells you so.

you mean , those newly vp apartments/condos are made of long term holding?

There are many rich fella who retire on a few properties in hand collecting rental. I have a friend who even hold >100 properties.

no one is denying their existence, same token you should not deny that the large majority are not we are saying around 70% of Malaysian population..

further to that, we currently stop at 400k to 800 bracket, means demand no...

You are still young. Haven't seen people thriving on property. All you see day in day out is only bankrupt people. You live in a small gloomy world of your own. Don't be a frog in a well

again how many percent are there? and Important question is does those ppl include you? for all I know even one ahs double of you currently have also also cant buy new generation shop not even half.. if you maximize it and owning shops , means you are under heavy loan

you mention you are playing rental game, beginning wondering what kind of entry you are in

and I think one has to live in the reality and not inflated, properties price today are inflated not normal growth you alleged now that 5-10% bull run has over syndrome...

Bearbear know the fact price won't come down.

I think he keep denying because his pocket not ready yet for the property he want.

Already blow so bIg now no point to return so the only way out is die die say property price will drop.

it is speculation, everything which is heavily speculated will need to find it way back to its normal growth, property is one of it nad we live in Malai (just hope you don't forget)

think big and dun think average, means heavy debt indeed..you are not within any ultra class neither rich category..

come on, whoe midfields 2 many owners, you one owners bising, coz based on 600k selling price but hoping 700k price, this is another project with reduced profit compared to others..

like bro showtime say

superbull 30% per annum

example, few years ago he like to use, 300k

so 30% p.a of 300k =90k pa

so 3 years = 90k x 3= 270k (3 years)

so plus 300k +270k = 570k

now superbull run is over, small bull still running (5-10%) pa [according to bro showtime)

so after superbull/speculation, small bull still running

so , after superbull, 570k,

5-10% from 570k = around (30k to 60k ) p.a

so 3 years after superbull  3x (30k to 60k) = 90k to 180k for 3 years

and the list goes on according to them,

so 10 years after 9according to briliant small bun run)

10 x (30k to 60k) = 300k to 600k

(300k to 600k) + 570k (superbull run efect) = 870k to 1.170 million

870k to 1.170 million, doable or not? after 10 years of VP?

few years ago =superbull (30%), this is due to demand
now superbull no more , left with bull ( 5-10%), this is also due to demand

both are motivated by demands, right? so has demand come down? there cannot be anyomore superbull run series after this... question is (even with 5-10% also not sustainable demand)...

got different than few years back or not? of course, demands losing up... mere wish to earn property, this is what trend? UUU? BBB?

Bank is not a charity organization, they have shareholders and bnm to report to. Like cc, personal loan and car loan, banks will repossess property as quickly. From npl to foreclosure will take 12 to 18 months, don't expect drastic drop until 2016.

can some list out married couple which prefer studio and speech like this in LYN?

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with losing of demands, means price cannot sustain already, superbull run has ended, now small bull run seems unsustainable also, where is the heading of property direction? since demand is losing? if you apply Jolokia reasoning, just hantam new launch, but sadly even new launch are suffering slow down with good package, subsales how?

no agents dare to comment? how come transaction low price still up?

why do i need to feel stupid, since drastic drop will around the corner, really waiting for drastic drop? you need to service a lot of loans before reaching it..

so it is correct, and now change choice of word, its is now inflation better word... means no more bull run?

so it is correct, and now change choice of word, its is now inflation better word... means no more bull run? investment cant work anymore? since 5-10% is now inflation, means it is just to counter the shrinking of money.. investment after super bull run stops ? change town? changing bull run to inflation? to save demands? cannot like this very foul & wrong (will be continous reminder after this) bull run theory has evolved into inflation, BBB

if this is the point you wanted to show, property has peak at end of superbull run... so all they are waiting is to cash out... if cant need to service loan already..

bro if is going to profit, you not buying and waiting other ppl to profit meh? you don't fool the property investors, making them to believe holding property is the right course, holding requires cost of holding it, maintenance and etc... longer you hold more cost incurred, units getting old, competition is eating in.. and most importantly, it is profit reducing..

ability to hold to prove a point is not a good investment idea.. this is another time i heard supply is more important than demand... have you heard ppl saying like this before?

where is Jolokia? no flaming you? demand is not dependable buy supplies. so do we have supplies massively in the market then? Amaya? GT208? OUG parklane ( and the whole of old klang road)

pretty obvious, from demand point of view ( as you promoted) and also supplies point of view (with proof)

so 5-10% is never mention by you as bull run is over? and it is now inflation?

on the issue of supplies you mention now is the center of gravity.. so are the supplies excessive?

oh, America was run too by their own ppl, how they have allow property to burst? Lehman bros to wound up? how Argentina country would allow thier country indebt so much, that creditors wanted to wound up Argentina? how did Greece went bancrupt?

how? how not Malaysia allow burst? integrity itself is best to explain their next coming move...

so no rebuttals means admission of the above facts... superbull run has ended, coz demand lowering, with demand lowering, the trend of proeprty is no longer suit property investment isn't? where are we heading again?

if you really think so, there you last integrity you left...

however..

previous years, superbull runs (30%) p.a

so now we do not have a bull run but (rather an inflation) of 5-10%, so superbull no more running? (30%)?

arent demands are the main factor for superbull to run? you getting no where but worse... previous years there are superbull run, then you say bull run of 5-10% increment ( if inflation is of that high of property price) not very long Malaysia will be ghost town). since it is inflation, means no bull run...

no bull run is worse than 5-10% bull run isn't?

previous years (30%) superbull run, demands driven

now, no superbull neither any bulls (0), worsen demands driven

so, still demands going down? right no matter it is inflation or bull run? landed on a worse case.. properties are stagnant.. sure or not?

oh irregardless of what you wanted to term it which you did termed as bull run has end, still a drop in demands haven't we?

I think you guys just justify anything in the name of property investment and price to up.. (when fasts show they do drop and correction and some crashed)

freaking irrelavant... to the question post and quoted...

demands dropping, so as price, that y superbull stop running.. easy, you contributed a lot in DDD programme, alwayls hid the meaning inside for us to cracked

What happened?? Today Wednesday leh...... Also so pressured ah??.......   

u sure our banking system is prudent? this is Malaysia runned by Malai

wow, even those properties are being speculated? and the price are not speculated? then you gotta do back ground check on your peers across the board, they are in fact 65% of your peers who do not have house majority, hear me right.. waiting for help and renting , who are the culprits?