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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post Dec 3 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 3 2014, 11:10 AM)
Child allergic are due to mother simply eat rubbish during pregnancy, which causes baby's organ not strong enough.
I only feed my wife with fish and natural food, 0 rubbish from fast food chain stores, 0 chemical processed Omega, DHA milk.
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Don't be too harsh la.it's my fault in childhood don't like to eat..fish many mercuries and can make baby suffered with autism. Nowadays baby only want to sleep in aircon. I last time baby no aircon
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(jeckyl @ Dec 2 2014, 11:27 PM)
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If its raining or windy, I don't turn on my a/c. Only on hot days or when there is a lack of wind.

I feel a/c is more drying for me. Noticed I have more mucus in my sinus when I wake up when I use a/c. Don't have such issue with fan.

Also fan is good for ventilating the room

Edit: BTW my electricity bill never exceed 350 units/month for 2 person household.  icon_rolleyes.gif Can save more if the wifey use the oven less.
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If you're operating it at 24 for even 4 hours yes eventually nose and throat will feel dry. The art or science for comfort cooling is if before sleeping and no one in the room, cool it down to 24-25 AUTO. Then when you enter and about to sleep, set it to 26-27 AUTO and turn on ceiling fan at 1-2 speed. Set AC timer to turn off by 4-6am. If using those KDK/Pana Nami fans, set it to turn off after 8 hours with sleep mode.

In my old condo, I used Daikin and because the remote uses 24-hour clock, I set to turn on at 9:45pm and turns off around 4:15am at 26deg, quiet and sleep mode. Same can be done for York remote except that I don't know if those features are available.

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post Dec 3 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Dec 3 2014, 11:17 AM)
Did you try general hospital?
Setting 27°C are good on sending your air cond to workshop.
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Already tried. Even I often went hospital since childhood for my asthma. 27 celcius better than 16 celcius la. It's just a myth 27 celcius will make ur aircon break. I often set 23-27 but I don't like the cool aircon like pana and sharp haha..like the cold aircon cold until my bone can feel it.
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Dec 2 2014, 09:09 PM)
Already double the1/2 hp aircon electricity cost. I am still looking 1/2 hp inverter.hahaha.. now still using kdk fan though
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dont think there is any in the market ...
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 2 2014, 10:36 PM)
Do you knew why ppls who invest Aircon for improve their sleeping as well, do you know that?

Very simple one day we works hard but for our sleep at night is really most most improved than you works hard.

From 5-8 hours per days at night for sleep with Aircon even your dream also turn become more sleep drame Leh..

Believed me.. Fast going to install next month you would realise your life got Aircon is really like a boss..

Later you much thanks me.

Wall/ceiling fan is already out dated in 2014 today..
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24hours on air con will make u sick .... there why there is something called fan
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:23 AM)
Already tried. Even I often went hospital since childhood for my asthma. 27 celcius better than 16 celcius la. It's just a myth 27 celcius will make ur aircon break. I often set 23-27 but I don't like the cool aircon like pana and sharp haha..like the cold aircon cold until my bone can feel it.
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chill to the bone also no good. tongue.gif No wonder you get asthma. Drink more water and then go toilet before you retire for the day.
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post Dec 3 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:32 AM)
24hours on air con will make u sick .... there why there is something called fan
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Yes it is common sence
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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:33 AM)
chill to the bone also no good.  tongue.gif  No wonder you get asthma. Drink more water and then go toilet before you retire for the day.
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last time my housemate use to open aircon till i cannot sleep...the cold air flow into my room...like about 22c .... most of the time i open 25c max .... else i will wake up in the middle of the night yawn.gif yawn.gif

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post Dec 3 2014, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:32 AM)
24hours on air con will make u sick .... there why there is something called fan
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24 hour air con at too cold and too dry without drinking water can make ppl fall sick. Fan only helps with air movement but doesn't deal with humidity. Humidity too high at 28-30 degree range for too long also not good for health. Need to balance the usage. Read it that some offices now recommend 24 degrees. Actually, what I have seen one or two is to wear short sleeve and leave it at 25-26. Some offices have good AC design such that the air handlers move more air volume to spots that are nearer window or walls that faces sunlight. The rest nearer the inside is less air volume that's not too cold.
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post Dec 3 2014, 12:12 PM

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Apparently, there's this thing that helps you measure all that in one neat package. Cubesensors

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post Dec 3 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 3 2014, 11:35 AM)
Yes it is common sence
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then u r actually contradicting to ur statement ... u said fan is outdated and yet u said open air con 24hours is not good for ur health , which is common sense laugh.gif yawn.gif
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QUOTE(boxer07 @ Dec 3 2014, 12:58 PM)
then u r actually contradicting to ur statement ... u said fan is outdated and yet u said open air con 24hours is not good for ur health , which is common sense  laugh.gif  yawn.gif
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Meant human where got works in 24hours in the cold room or Aircon room?

Normal usage per day from 5-8 hrs is quite common for sleeping needs.

Used ceiling or wall fan = out dated on bedroom is also most common ppls house, but except on living hall.

If you can't take Aircon and got allergy with runing noise then is other case.

Nowadays weather was hot & very dirty also, unless you still living in kampung ulu ulu place still un-devolper place then even not using fan from the room weather is still cold at night time.

So my comments was common sense > All laugh.gif
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post Dec 3 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:18 AM)
Don't be too harsh la.it's my fault in childhood don't like to eat..fish many mercuries and can make baby suffered with autism. Nowadays baby only want to sleep in aircon. I last time baby no aircon
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Only deep water fish has higher mercury content, not shallow water fish.
Nope, by default baby won't like to sleep in aircond environment. But again if you have money to visit clinic more often, why not? After all, you are creating more business opportunity by shrinking your wealth and health.
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post Dec 3 2014, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Dec 3 2014, 11:23 AM)
Already tried. Even I often went hospital since childhood for my asthma. 27 celcius better than 16 celcius la. It's just a myth 27 celcius will make ur aircon break. I often set 23-27 but I don't like the cool aircon like pana and sharp haha..like the cold aircon cold until my bone can feel it.
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If you are using normal type air cond, the capacitor is the first thing to fail. Rm120 including installation.
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post Dec 3 2014, 03:45 PM

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What will happen if use standard piping but A/C is inverter type?
Anyone try this before?
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post Dec 3 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(aviecena2020 @ Dec 3 2014, 03:45 PM)
What will happen if use standard piping but A/C is inverter type?
Anyone try this before?
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Pipe will leak if you use piping meant for R-22 but run R-410A. Some inverter still use R-22 like Daikin.


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post Dec 3 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Dec 3 2014, 10:57 AM)
But aircon creates dry air.it's good for my allergic than humid air. People using aircon live longer.eg: singaporean and japanese
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They live longer because of better healthcare. Singaporeans and Japanese are kia si people. They were got eat the delicious artery-clogging food we Malaysians enjoy.
Also less risk of dying from swerving to avoid killing the mat rempits.
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post Dec 3 2014, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Dec 3 2014, 04:20 PM)
Pipe will leak if you use piping meant for R-22 but run R-410A. Some inverter still use R-22 like Daikin.
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you're right. R-410A runs around 400 psi. R-22 is about 200-ish psi.
The high pressure would create pipe leaks, or would damage the compressor.

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post Dec 3 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 3 2014, 01:15 PM)
Meant human where got works in 24hours in the cold room or Aircon room?

Normal usage per day from 5-8 hrs is quite common for sleeping needs.

Used ceiling or wall fan = out dated on bedroom is also most common ppls house, but except on living hall.

If you can't take Aircon and got allergy with runing noise then is other case.

Nowadays weather was hot & very dirty also, unless you still living in kampung ulu ulu place still un-devolper place then even not using fan from the room weather is still cold at night time.

So my comments was common sense > All laugh.gif
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A/C recirculates the air in the room. If your house in located in a so called 'developed' area, the a/c just recirculated all the VOC, NOx and SOx for you.

If the air quality in your housing area is bad, it is time to move to another area. Not shut the window and enjoy the cool recirculating dirty air doh.gif
Some may suggest you install air purifiers. Air purifiers are rubbish. They only filter particulates. Fine particulates below PM10, and molecules like NOx and SOx are not removed.

Basically if you are afraid of opening your window and breathing the air in, then time to stop breathing. (jk lar. don't actually stop breathing ok)

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post Dec 3 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(jeckyl @ Dec 3 2014, 04:37 PM)
A/C recirculates the air in the room. If your house in located in a so called 'developed' area, the a/c just recirculated all the VOC, NOx and SOx for you.

If the air quality in your housing area is bad, it is time to move to another area. Not shut the window and enjoy the cool recirculating dirty air  doh.gif
Some may suggest you install air purifiers. Air purifiers are rubbish. They only filter particulates. Fine particulates below PM10, and molecules like NOx and  SOx are not removed.

Basically if you are afraid of opening your window and breathing the air in, then time to stop breathing. (jk lar. don't actually stop breathing ok)
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The removal of NOx is facilitated by photocatalytic materials like TiO2 which is bundled in some ACs. Best would be to use TiO2 impregnated paint on sun exposd surfaces. Cheaper still, plants.

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