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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post Oct 31 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(kksoon @ Oct 31 2014, 12:28 PM)
Hi guys, is this below good price?

Mitsubishi Electric
http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...nd/non-inverter

Main Features:
• Easy Clean
• Triple Plasma+
• i-see Sensor
• Nano-Platinum Filter
• 7&2 Years Warranty

Spec : http://www.mitsubishielectricmalaysia.com/...ecification.pdf

1 HP (MS-FG10VC) = RM1100
1.5 HP (MS-FG13VC) = RM1480
2 HP (MS-FG18VC) = RM2150

Price without installation!
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Survey another few shops before decide. I feel a bit expensive.
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post Oct 31 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(kksoon @ Oct 31 2014, 01:41 PM)
Panasonic
Main Features:
• ECONAVI
• nanoe-G with Filter Deactivate
• 3 Star Energy Rating

http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...onditioner.html

1 HP (cs-kc9qkh) = RM1000
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-.../cs-kc9qkh.html

1.5 HP (cs-kc12qkh) = RM1300
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...cs-kc12qkh.html

2HP (cs-kc18qkh) = RM2050
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...cs-kc18qkh.html

Price without installation!
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Still the same, survey few shops before decide. I guess this is RSP?
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post Oct 31 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(kksoon @ Oct 31 2014, 03:22 PM)
No is not RSP, is last price offer before shop opening  laugh.gif
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Better survey another few shops first. Regardless of Mit or Pana, both are at the high side.
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post Nov 2 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(alexis555 @ Nov 2 2014, 09:19 PM)
Hi all sifu there,

is Sharp plasmacluster 1HP air cond worth buying?? or better go for ME MR slim 1HP?
still considering between two...
thanks for advice
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Points to consdier :
price
installation
after warranty support
Remember, air cond considered as essential house appliance now, so you can't really can have outage. Even with outage, it shall be repaired and hand back to you ASAP.
That's why I choose Panasonic non inverter, spare parts easily can get(SC only 5KM from my home) and know the sub con's shop icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ Nov 2 2014, 11:24 PM)
Should I get a panasonic/ME/York inverter 1hp aircon?
I'm torn between these three.
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Nope, only the first 2 you shall consider.
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post Nov 3 2014, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Nov 2 2014, 11:45 PM)
for panasonic, I support its wall fan, very durable. btw, I dun use aircon, electricity is not cheap.
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Well, for wall fans, either KDK or Panasonic will give you a peace of mind. Install and wait for it to fail, after solid 10-15 years thumbup.gif
I'm using air cond to dry partially and cool down my room, not for long period of hours.
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post Nov 3 2014, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 3 2014, 05:27 AM)
Just funny for my new KDK ceiling fan, now seem like the remote control have to point in directly then baru can detected, unlike my 8 yrs old model KDK remote control put at wall holder still can control the distance area.

But remote control look good like a Aircon remote got fan speed display too.

My newly installed it model
http://www.kdk.com.my/products-detail.asp?id=14
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Well, I'm still healthy and can walk up and down unlike OKU, so I never buy remote controlled fans. After all, a fan is to spin and blow air, I no need to have fancy functions that makes it don't last long.

QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Nov 3 2014, 06:25 AM)
my room is dry enough although not using the aircon. Agree, Panasonic wall fan is very reliable and durable.
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Then is good for you.
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post Nov 3 2014, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 3 2014, 07:51 AM)
Pana or KDK mana ade spoil faster.. At least can last up 10-15 yrs, after you saw the fan n get boring until you vomit out.
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Well, I won't vomit even if I see that bloody fan usedfor 25 years. And my mother's house has 1 KDK fan that last this long. Why need to vomit? I'll vomit blood if the fan only can last few years and cost me a bomb to buy it. Lucky this has never happen to me icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ Nov 3 2014, 10:05 AM)
My uncle house has a panasonic inverter for bedroom, but its so not cold enough.
Which model of ME would you recommend?

Thanks!
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Before jump in to such conclusion, how they set the air cond?
As we discussed this before, the Econavi should be turned off.
Also, to have a more efficient air cond operations, few things must be in place :
right HP for right room size
direction of the sun matters
paint quality matters(so good weather shield paint will help)
air cond's sensors must be clean, I still remember mine never service for too long time and the thermostat, the fins was blocked by dust.

As for your main question, you need to compare the price of both. For me, is still after warranty tech support important.
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post Nov 3 2014, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Green_lemontea @ Nov 3 2014, 10:14 AM)
Thanks for your suggestion.
Is there any reason why it is not recommended for York?
It looks cold enough to me.
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York indeed are the best among all, but the problem is the noise level.
Like my Panasonic 2HP for my hall, compare to my neighbor's 2HP(for hall also), his already making loud noise and vibration after 2 years. Mine are still quiet.
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post Nov 3 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(pat07 @ Nov 3 2014, 03:22 PM)
LoL!! Kimsim Sifu!! No offence!! I also bought ME after reading your post since 1 version aircon thread!! And ME is really impressive!! You not just ME die hard fan!! But a crazy fan!! You can talk about ME everyday!! Every page you were there!! Sometimes Supersound Sifu also lazy to argue with you!! If you apply for ME dealer, you will be super top dealer in Malaysia!!

Dear Sifu.. i'm looking for the cheapest 1HP inverter for my homestay.. since the guest will On it for 24/7.. inverter will be the wiser choice..

I like ME but way too expensive.. Are they stopping Daikin previous model FTKS25DVM?? They all selling Daikin FTK-P series now.. And the spec is exactly York Inverter Y series.. Cost RM 1,200 without installation..

How about Ascon?? It's EER is same as New Daikin 11.67..
How about Sharp?? I can't find it's EER!!

Dear Sifu.. please advise.. Thanks!!
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Room size matters. Please give more info.
But since it is for business, any inverter can do.
Pana or ME are more for own use, if you were to ask my opinion.
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post Nov 3 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(pat07 @ Nov 3 2014, 05:55 PM)
Dear Supersound Sifu.. My room size is 15X10X8.. 1 HP should be sufficient right?
Any recommendation for durable inverter? York/Daikin? Sharp? Acson?
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Get 1.5HP.
In KT no electrical shop? Suggest to buy near your place, not worth to transport from west.
Daikin or Sharp would be good.
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post Nov 3 2014, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Nov 3 2014, 09:23 PM)
Sorry to interrupt, may i ask what is ME?
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Mitsubishi Electrics.
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post Nov 4 2014, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 4 2014, 01:38 PM)
Have any review from Daikin today?

supersound bro
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York and Daikin merged already. So just wait and see.
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post Nov 4 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(mizi28 @ Nov 4 2014, 09:40 PM)
hi all aircond master.

i would like to install an aircond unit but i wonder hows the installation cost and how they do installation on an apartment tbh low cost flat let say i live at 8th floor. do they need to rent a crane in order to fix the compressor?

hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

anyone can explain?
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Your unit have balcony?
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post Nov 5 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(pat07 @ Nov 5 2014, 02:23 PM)
What i mean is Daikin Neoverter 1HP = RM1,200 without installation fee is KT dealer price.. Also means the price already include transport cost from Selangor.. So Selangor price must be lower than RM1,200.. almost everything that ship from Selangor need add up transport cost.. So KT stuff is very expensive!!
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Well, the nearest place to go is Kuantan, for your case.
You need to survey there.
Also, it is not advisable to buy a brand that does not have tech support in your place.
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:08 AM

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Basically those noise level published by manufacturers are not right. Like did they stated clearly how they do the measurement?
The decibel meter put near or far will affect the readings.
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Nov 6 2014, 10:29 AM)
test lab usually will be a empty room which probably have hollow sound effect...
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So it does not reflect to actual real world environment

QUOTE(kimsim @ Nov 6 2014, 01:04 PM)
Used iPhone app go an download DB decibel 10th then you can test the sound db already
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Does the phone's microphone being industrial calibrated?
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post Nov 6 2014, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Nov 6 2014, 01:29 PM)
Thought whole purpose is to measure noise level emanating from the equipment being tested. The background noise have to be minimum for control.
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Well, such measurement are used to mislead potential buyer, nothing more than that sweat.gif
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post Nov 12 2014, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Nov 12 2014, 10:53 AM)
ya i am wondering the same since existing in wall cable only 3 wires if add 1 or more need to recable from fusebox again ??
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If controller wire no need.
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