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 Aircon Discussion v2, Continuing on from previous AC topics

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post Jun 3 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 03:38 PM)
What's the model name for the Panasonic Deluxe Inverter? I saw SengHeng sell CS-S10RKH but panasonic website show CS-S10PKH? Any difference?
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difference is 3 star vs 5 star electricity rating.
price also more expensive for 5 star.
BTU also slightly higher iinm.
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jun 3 2015, 03:42 PM)
difference is 3 star vs 5 star electricity rating.
price also more expensive for 5 star.
BTU also slightly higher iinm.
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wrong bro

CS-S10PKH is old model CS-S10RKH replaces CS-S10PKH...

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 03:45 PM)
wrong bro

CS-S10PKH is old model CS-S10RKH replaces CS-S10PKH...
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yea just saw wrong model tongue.gif

http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...kh-1.specs.html
www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-appliances/air-conditioner/single-split-air-conditioner/cs-s10rkh-1.specs.html
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:50 PM

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Good. I saw Sen Heng got promotion on the CS-S10RKH model, just RM1549, good buy?
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 03:50 PM)
Good. I saw Sen Heng got promotion on the CS-S10RKH model, just RM1549, good buy?
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remember ask for additional warranty

inverter aircon has history of frying the inverter circuit board... (depend on how dirty your house electrical current is)

just to be safe ask for additional warranty coverage usually top up a little...


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post Jun 3 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 03:55 PM)
remember ask for additional warranty

inverter aircon has history of frying the inverter circuit board... (depend on how dirty your house electrical current is)

just to be safe ask for additional warranty coverage usually top up a little...
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Quite upset by today electronics quality. I'm an electronic engineer who worked in panasonic for 5 years, recently switch to UK based vacuum cleaner company. As compare between Japanese and EU consumer product, i just have to say the part quality of the Japanese consumer device nowadays is pathetic, the QC, production quality is good, but the problem lies on the part itself. Panasonic is a struggle giant (although the best among the struggle giants in Japan), the main activity is VE for them, that's why the electronic component they used is mostly a dirt cheap low quality electronic part sourced from China. Although they did alot of accelerate reliability test during design stage, but still the real time degradation is very difficult to predict, that's why you will see alot of 'claimed' Japanese technology failed after short period.

From the outsider they see Panasonic is good and reliable brand, from an insider point of view, i actually not really confident with it.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 04:05 PM)
Quite upset by today electronics quality. I'm an electronic engineer who worked in panasonic for 5 years, recently switch to UK based vacuum cleaner company. As compare between Japanese and EU consumer product, i just have to say the part quality of the Japanese consumer device nowadays is pathetic, the QC, production quality is good, but the problem lies on the part itself. Panasonic is a struggle giant (although the best among the struggle giants in Japan), the main activity is VE for them, that's why the electronic component they used is mostly a dirt cheap low quality electronic part sourced from China. Although they did alot of accelerate reliability test during design stage, but still the real time degradation is very difficult to predict, that's why you will see alot of 'claimed' Japanese technology failed after short period.

From the outsider they see Panasonic is good and reliable brand, from an insider point of view, i actually not really confident with it.
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Cant say much... so you with Dyson biggrin.gif hehehe.....

I'm looking to buy one Dyson V6 hehehe


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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 04:12 PM)
Cant say much... so you with Dyson biggrin.gif hehehe.....

I'm looking to buy one Dyson V6 hehehe
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Sound like you playing turbo machine biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 3 2015, 04:46 PM)
Sound like you playing turbo machine biggrin.gif
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go google Dyson V6 Absolute... it is an Awesome vacuum (cordless) but here in malaysia freaking expensive...


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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 04:48 PM)
go google Dyson V6 Absolute... it is an Awesome vacuum (cordless) but here in malaysia freaking expensive...
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My LG roboking do much better wow laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 3 2015, 04:50 PM)
My LG roboking do much better wow laugh.gif
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LG roboking weak suction hahaha I already have a robot vac.. (Moneual)

I need a Dyson wireless for other stuff like wall, furniture, car, ceiling, fan etc etc... doubt any bot vac can do that...
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 04:05 PM)
Quite upset by today electronics quality. I'm an electronic engineer who worked in panasonic for 5 years, recently switch to UK based vacuum cleaner company. As compare between Japanese and EU consumer product, i just have to say the part quality of the Japanese consumer device nowadays is pathetic, the QC, production quality is good, but the problem lies on the part itself. Panasonic is a struggle giant (although the best among the struggle giants in Japan), the main activity is VE for them, that's why the electronic component they used is mostly a dirt cheap low quality electronic part sourced from China. Although they did alot of accelerate reliability test during design stage, but still the real time degradation is very difficult to predict, that's why you will see alot of 'claimed' Japanese technology failed after short period.

From the outsider they see Panasonic is good and reliable brand, from an insider point of view, i actually not really confident with it.
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Now only you guys realized how sucks are those japs products?
Nowadays those bloody japs are mainly reducing cost in quality and concentrating on 'hauling' as much profits as possible back to their country.
In a Japanese factory, there will always a double quality standard exist. Those products for global shipment, will apply quality tolerance. But those products that mainly for their homeland Japan, the outputs must be zero tolerance, means 'zero defect' or perfect!!! Really sucks!!!

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QUOTE(lcloon @ Jun 3 2015, 05:03 PM)
Now only you guys realized how sucks are those japs products?
Nowadays those bloody japs are mainly reducing cost in quality and concentrating on 'hauling' as much profits as possible back to their country.
In a Japanese factory, there will always a double quality standard exist. Those products for global shipment, will apply quality tolerance. But those products that mainly for their homeland Japan, the outputs must be zero tolerance, means 'zero defect' or perfect!!! Really sucks!!!
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yeah somehow Japan employ different standards... Japan Domestic Market product and Global product all different..

When buy fr Ebay the JDM product it is somehow more refine vs global ones...

pity... same with car.. JDM has the best car and design... then boring already make it global... dammit
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 05:08 PM)
yeah somehow Japan employ different standards... Japan Domestic Market product and Global product all different..

When buy fr Ebay the JDM product it is somehow more refine vs global ones...

pity... same with car.. JDM has the best car and design... then boring already make it global... dammit
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This is mainly due to consumer price demand...Domestic market demand premium quality and willing to pay, that's why they give premium quality. Imagine if a 1hp Panasonic inverter aircond need RM2.5k, how many Malaysian willing to pay for it?

As you said the V6 thingy is freaking expensive here, but this is the model that mainly support the company currently by Japan market. For them they don't mind at all.

When i came across the thread here and read so many of you the aircond capacitor failed, board fried just within 5-7 years usage, how pathetic for such quality.
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problem with Dyson it is manufacture in Malaysia why so freaking expensive...

I need to go Ebay and buy Dyson in USA shipped it here and savings of RM1K

if you wanna mark up but this is overkill
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:24 PM

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But anyway, i will still go for Panasonic CS-S10RKH for my 1st aircond purchase this weekend, i have no choice, to me all those Japanese and Korean brand are just the same, just the matter of luck. Go for Panasonic mainly due to there are more users here, cheaper spare part, and maybe slightly better after sale service.

Actually i will move to my new house probably end of this year, i'm now rent a house. My urgent need is for my little baby girl, the sleeping room is just too hot for her to stay, so i have no choice to buy now, and dismantle to new house later.
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 05:24 PM)
But anyway, i will still go for Panasonic CS-S10RKH for my 1st aircond purchase this weekend, i have no choice, to me all those Japanese and Korean brand are just the same, just the matter of luck. Go for Panasonic mainly due to there are more users here, cheaper spare part, and maybe slightly better after sale service.

Actually i will move to my new house probably end of this year, i'm now rent a house. My urgent need is for my little baby girl, the sleeping room is just too hot for her to stay, so i have no choice to buy now, and dismantle to new house later.
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Just go for it laaa.... Panasonic parts plenty and even contractor know how to deal with it...

less hassle and painfull when got problem
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 05:21 PM)
problem with Dyson it is manufacture in Malaysia why so freaking expensive...

I need to go Ebay and buy Dyson in USA shipped it here and savings of RM1K

if you wanna mark up but this is overkill
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They are selling the patented technology actually, precisely aero and mechanical technology that no one can surpass it, and not much user can appreciate the technology behind. That's why they can sell it at premium price, but they still selling well although not in here.

I'm not sure the unit from ebay is retail unit or unit from staff purchase. We actually can buy any Dyson model in half price with half period of warranty (retail 5 years warranty).

Anyway, this is business decision, i'm just a little engineer that can do nothing on that. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 05:33 PM)
They are selling the patented technology actually, precisely aero and mechanical technology that no one can surpass it, and not much user can appreciate the technology behind. That's why they can sell it at premium price, but they still selling well although not in here.

I'm not sure the unit from ebay is retail unit or unit from staff purchase. We actually can buy any Dyson model in half price with half period of warranty (retail 5 years warranty).

Anyway, this is business decision, i'm just a little engineer that can do nothing on that. tongue.gif
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I like the technology very efficient cyclone stuff with double tiered cyclonic injector...
wow half price awesome!!! help me get V6 cordless hahaha

Not sure US one is retail or not but it come with 2yrs manufacturer warranty fr Dyson

even Malaysia V6 only get 2 years manufacturer... RM2800 with accessories its 3K which is CRAZYYYYYY price...

if get from USA I only pay RM2000 inc shipping and import tax
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 3 2015, 03:38 PM)
What's the model name for the Panasonic Deluxe Inverter? I saw SengHeng sell CS-S10RKH but panasonic website show CS-S10PKH? Any difference?
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http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...s-s10rkh-1.html

PKH is 2013 model
QKH is 2014 model
RKH is 2015 model

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