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post Jun 3 2015, 03:23 PM

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Any review on Hitachi aircond? I'm eyeing Hitachi inverter HTC-RASSX10CD, any idea?
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 03:24 PM)
Hitachi inverter not so power savings... rating around 1500kw if not wrong
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Do you have any brand/model to recommend? 1hp with Inverter. Quite urgent, need it on this weekend.
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 03:32 PM)
I was like you... when my old aircon kaput... end up after all research shortlist to 3

1: Panasonic Inverter Deluxe
2: LG Inverter ArtCool
3: Sharp Plasmacluster

Panasonic
- Very Powerfull but not quiet at all... the air outlet vertical fin make cracking noise and can be heard if you turn on quiet mode... but I dont care since I full blast and it mask the cracking plastic noise...
- I option for additional warranty from shengheng so total 5 years warranty on other and 6yrs for compressor...

LG
- One of the best interm of savings lowes kwh usage rated
- Design is good... if I didnt get Panasonic I confirm get this one!
- Best selling aircon in India (if you are interested..)
- Very quiet
- heard some complaint on reliability and service center being not able to solve some fault... mainly leakages

Sharp
- like the plasmacluster
- highest power usage among 3 nearly 1600kw (inverter not efficient)
- Like the design very small footprint
- not very powerfull (airblade) quite weak...

end up I choose Panasonic...
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What's the model name for the Panasonic Deluxe Inverter? I saw SengHeng sell CS-S10RKH but panasonic website show CS-S10PKH? Any difference?
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 3 2015, 03:28 PM)
Hitachi the most worst than noisy brand York.

Mine PCB failed after warranty
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No wonder i don see any recommendation in this thread. The price is more than Panasonic somemore.
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post Jun 3 2015, 03:50 PM

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Good. I saw Sen Heng got promotion on the CS-S10RKH model, just RM1549, good buy?
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post Jun 3 2015, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 03:55 PM)
remember ask for additional warranty

inverter aircon has history of frying the inverter circuit board... (depend on how dirty your house electrical current is)

just to be safe ask for additional warranty coverage usually top up a little...
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Quite upset by today electronics quality. I'm an electronic engineer who worked in panasonic for 5 years, recently switch to UK based vacuum cleaner company. As compare between Japanese and EU consumer product, i just have to say the part quality of the Japanese consumer device nowadays is pathetic, the QC, production quality is good, but the problem lies on the part itself. Panasonic is a struggle giant (although the best among the struggle giants in Japan), the main activity is VE for them, that's why the electronic component they used is mostly a dirt cheap low quality electronic part sourced from China. Although they did alot of accelerate reliability test during design stage, but still the real time degradation is very difficult to predict, that's why you will see alot of 'claimed' Japanese technology failed after short period.

From the outsider they see Panasonic is good and reliable brand, from an insider point of view, i actually not really confident with it.
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 05:08 PM)
yeah somehow Japan employ different standards... Japan Domestic Market product and Global product all different..

When buy fr Ebay the JDM product it is somehow more refine vs global ones...

pity... same with car.. JDM has the best car and design... then boring already make it global... dammit
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This is mainly due to consumer price demand...Domestic market demand premium quality and willing to pay, that's why they give premium quality. Imagine if a 1hp Panasonic inverter aircond need RM2.5k, how many Malaysian willing to pay for it?

As you said the V6 thingy is freaking expensive here, but this is the model that mainly support the company currently by Japan market. For them they don't mind at all.

When i came across the thread here and read so many of you the aircond capacitor failed, board fried just within 5-7 years usage, how pathetic for such quality.
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But anyway, i will still go for Panasonic CS-S10RKH for my 1st aircond purchase this weekend, i have no choice, to me all those Japanese and Korean brand are just the same, just the matter of luck. Go for Panasonic mainly due to there are more users here, cheaper spare part, and maybe slightly better after sale service.

Actually i will move to my new house probably end of this year, i'm now rent a house. My urgent need is for my little baby girl, the sleeping room is just too hot for her to stay, so i have no choice to buy now, and dismantle to new house later.
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 3 2015, 05:21 PM)
problem with Dyson it is manufacture in Malaysia why so freaking expensive...

I need to go Ebay and buy Dyson in USA shipped it here and savings of RM1K

if you wanna mark up but this is overkill
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They are selling the patented technology actually, precisely aero and mechanical technology that no one can surpass it, and not much user can appreciate the technology behind. That's why they can sell it at premium price, but they still selling well although not in here.

I'm not sure the unit from ebay is retail unit or unit from staff purchase. We actually can buy any Dyson model in half price with half period of warranty (retail 5 years warranty).

Anyway, this is business decision, i'm just a little engineer that can do nothing on that. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jun 3 2015, 05:44 PM)
http://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...s-s10rkh-1.html

PKH is 2013 model
QKH is 2014 model
RKH is 2015 model
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Wao, what a nice no. plate. By year 2023 it will come to ZKH (If Panasonic at that time still manufacture aircond, who knows)
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post Jun 3 2015, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(babyk @ Jun 3 2015, 05:47 PM)
expensive

I bought it for RM1320 for 1.0hp, RM1650 for 1.5hp and RM2680 for 2.0hp
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Where you get that?
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post Jun 4 2015, 07:33 PM

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Mitsubishi Inverter 1HP MSY-GJ10VA RM1750 include installation? hmm.gif
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post Jun 4 2015, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 4 2015, 09:10 PM)
In JB around Rm1650, inc installed
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I stay at Kulaijaya. doh.gif
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post Jun 4 2015, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 4 2015, 10:05 PM)
My price quote from Puteri Wangsa, Tian Xiang
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Ulu Tiram?
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post Jun 4 2015, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 4 2015, 10:34 PM)
Beside perlangi indah
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Then confirm they won't go Kulai adi. Nvm la, just 100 more.

The aircond itself is RM1.5k, but they quote installation 250 due to inverter (RA410 gas and thicker pipe)
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post Jun 6 2015, 12:27 PM

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Just paid my ME 1hp inverter aircond, RM1.9k with extended 2+3 years warranty...really expensive consider i almost can buy a 2HP non-inverter adi...
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post Jun 6 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 6 2015, 12:31 PM)
Why need extended? Standard comes with 2/7 good than enough right.

My all never extended also has been usage over 6 yrs didn't repair any cent
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then u are lucky.

the 7 years warranty just for compressor motor, meaning after 2 years if the PCB is fried, u better change to new aircond. Anyway, add on 3 years more only 170, i think still worth it.
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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ Jun 6 2015, 03:36 PM)
why PBC could be fried? my 20 yrs old toshiba still strong
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Becos the electronics nowadays are fragile, period.

I bought a Panasonic washer kaput after 1.5 years usage.

Your Toshiba small case only, the National aircond in my hometown already 30 years, so?
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post Jun 6 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Jun 6 2015, 03:38 PM)
but you may paid higher bill than latest any model
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The paper spec seems good.

Hopefully i get what i expected, else i will come back here to bash you. laugh.gif
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post Jun 8 2015, 09:28 PM

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