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 Honda City V spec vs Kia Cerato KX, Comparison

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cy97
post Nov 2 2014, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Oct 30 2014, 11:02 PM)
I saw you desperately trying to convince people to pick your N-brand over several threads such as Attrage vs Almera, Sylphy vs Altis & Teana vs Accord. Must be very harsh competition lately and many holding back their spending due to your beloved management imposing GST, price hike, fuel hike, etc hike giving the public high expenses with not much cash left. Now house sale also no longer doing well as people have no money left to buy anything. Now you feel the pinch, so don't complain.

Honta is now following your company footstep in giving dirt cheap with low quality. Check how many Murano & Fat Lady using CVT gearbox still move around today compared to Toyota Lexus Harrier? Like gone case, so are the old Honta City '03-07 using CVT gearbox. When gearbox failed, throw cheap price allowing second hand car buyer to reserve additional cash to buy entire new gearbox since can't overhaul. Instead, the junk old Elantra/Sonata '03 using 90's Mitsubishi engine & normal 4AT still running around. CVT anyone?

Cerato KX is basically EX, the quality & reliability/durability is there, no worry. After 10 years, it's still running, after 15 years, would need fixing and could still run. Gearbox is conventional mechanical, after 10years might experience gear slippage but could still run, won't die like CVT.
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I think you must be smarter than the japanese or the Germans who are beginning to adopt cvt which you claim is problematic.
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post Nov 2 2014, 02:59 PM

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Baseless accusations, that guy is living in his own fantasy world. Would like to know how he does in real world.
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post Nov 2 2014, 05:32 PM

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http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2013/07/i...im-going-there/
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post Nov 2 2014, 06:00 PM

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http://www.rstreet.org/2014/07/15/the-twis...ale-of-the-cvt/

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post Nov 2 2014, 06:10 PM

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jayraptor
post Nov 6 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Gamerjim @ Nov 2 2014, 02:13 PM)
I thought airbags won't deploy if seatbelts are not fastened? Correct me if I m wrong..
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There were even cases where airbags deployed without collision. Seatbelts won't fastened, those sensors might no longer work after several years. Electrical & electronic faulty, they were often unexpected how they would fail. Never trust electrical/electronic 100%.
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post Nov 6 2014, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(cy97 @ Nov 2 2014, 02:28 PM)
I think you must be smarter than the japanese or the Germans who are beginning to adopt cvt which you claim is problematic.
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Despite all the links you posted, check which countries that came up with those claims? In America, they have more than enough well trained and qualified engineers to fix whatever for you. Even if no such spare part anymore, they have engineering firm that could mold for you. Also, you can easily buy engine, gearbox, etc in America at affordable price as their buying power and resources are plenty.

In Europe, things are slightly different that maintenance costs are more pricey but at least they still have qualified engineers.

Over here, you should avoid CVT gearbox and hybrid unless you're rich that don't mind forking out RM20-30k easily.

FYI, Germans especially Audi already dropped and avoid CVT gearbox. Get your facts right. Because their customers felt the pinch when comes to faulty worn out CVT gearbox. Also, Audi has to make sure their cars are more problem free than Merc/BMW when comes to maintenance in order to compete.

Certain Japanese manufacturers assume Asians mindset has been brainwashed to think whatever goods Japanese dump here will sell well. CVT gearbox costs them cheaper to develop so they give CVT instead of advanced costly highly reliable/durable 6-7AT gearbox.

Seems like you're the baseless here that you actually ignored those cars with CVT got breakdown and they sold their cars minus cost of new gearbox. That's why more & more City, Murano already missing from our road. Nobody can fix/overhaul yet cost a bomb to buy brand new. Actual case : Used City with CVT gearbox market price RM30k, gearbox kong minus RM20k plus few thousands for labour cost to fit and put it to work which means that City is just few thousands. Used car buyer saw such condition also avoid, better choose another working car like Vios or Forte.

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