If you see it differently,

The overall wattage of the stove will also impact electrical bill based on usage. Is it daily or once in a while?

As Career26 mentioned she is intending to do light cooking which equates to not that frequent cooking in my opinion of what is frequent and what is not so frequent. which is why I think a 2 zone hob is good for her usage pattern.

But if it's frequent, then a 3 zone hob is enough.

Try measuring 45cm vs 60cm with a measuring tape on a table. You can have a better idea of whether it is small or not.

The promotion price for RM3188 is for both? I doubt you can get 2-2.5k for induction hob as induction hobs are more expensive than vitroceramic hobs unless there is a sale on. Speaking of which, christmas is coming up and there could be a christmas sale?

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Electrolux having their annual Knock Out Sale this 15th November
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Thanks for sharing - I wish they have 3 zones hob. They only have the models with 4 zones listed on their website. Will email them to ask.

Anyone bought or use this Vees deli cooker?it takes me one hour jz to boil a kettle of water!crazy!the funniest thing is that their technician told me this is normal! it's really unacceptable on this! Can anyone share ur experience on this pls? Don think it takes such a long time to cook right?

I'm a night owl so no worries.

2-3 times a week would be infrequent because there are 7 days in a week. So it would be 4-5 days without cooking

If 3-4 times a week, it would be in between infrequent and frequent considering, it would be 3-4 days without cooking.

If you cook 4-5 times a week, that would be frequent because it would be a long time affair with the stove and fridge due to food stock up and the no of zones to prepare a fast meal.

Regarding the teka stove n hood from xammax. If you got RM50 voucher from xammax to offset the total price, you can think of it as this.. RM2625-RM50 = RM2575 which would then be less of a stretch on your maximum budget for stove by RM75 only because the hood is cheap.

Hey guys,

By the way, I bumped into this Faber induction hob while browsing but did not find much reviews on it. http://www.faberappliances.com.my/bih_i_fic2220s.php
It's a 69 cm and less than 2K. I was a bit skeptic as there were no reviews available and considering the price is dead cheap for an induction hob. Appreciate your input.

You need to take into consideration Induction hob lifespan are short, therefore get a reputable brand product easier to claim warranty. Never the less the radiant type hob is not that reliable too (especially with the fancy controller).

Is simple, electronic stuff just don't go well with heat.

Also another brand called, Franke that I looked at last night. This is a 60 cm but 4 zones though but that's the only model listed on the website - http://www.franke.com/content/kitchensyste.../induction.html

I am not sure if they carry the 2 zones / 3 zones. A company called Signature Obicorp in Malaysia carries them. I have emailed them with my questions and waiting to hear from them.

But in the mean time, would like to hear from anyone here is aware of the brand and has personal experience using them.

Career26,

Sorry to step on the brakes to back track. You raise a very pertinent point and point 3 here raise some misgivings I have concerning putting the cart before the horse.

To clarify: this place of yours how recent is the development? If in pre-2004, I hazard a guess that they planned for gas cooking using 60cm or domino hob style. If later or was renovated before and has an induction/heat plate/vitroceramic hob before chances are high wattage wiring is in place.

Otherwise to assume the worst, all electrical is shared off a single 13A or 15A line for fridge, hood and other electrical appliances like kettle, toaster, microwave. At best it's two lines 13A and 15A. Even better if provision was made for electrical cooking is 13A and 20-25A.

If it's an old place, I'm guessing that by buying such a hob, that you'll be doing some form of renovation including adding high amp (20A at least) electrical wiring for this purpose. Hence the rest of this is based on this assumption.

If adding electrical point is not considered as part of the renovation, I recommend revisiting the core assumptions above. You can enlist an electrician help do a sanity check.

Low wattage means less than 4800W (20A or 4800/240)? That means it needs a separate dedicated apart from fridge, hood. Because if the development is older than 1990s, chances are unless there was previous renovation (with an electrical hob evident), no one in those days would foresee the possibility cooking with electricity and chances are they have only one 13A point in the kitchen or at best one 13A or one 15A.

Not that I want to spoil your renovation journey but by knowing this in itself beforehand is to be sure that we know where you stand and don't give advice in a misleading manner. Not a problem if the electricals are known - I assume here that by saying low wattage there's something in mind between 15A to 20A. But if you don't yet know, better to sort that out first then you can see for sure what options lies before you.

All incoming from tnb need to use 230v for calculation. Tnv officially supply 230v no longer 240v

I will use 220v for calculation, because the incoming always have variance. Is best to over spec than having problem later.

weikee, thanks for the tip.

It would depend on how well you maintain & use the hob.

My old vitroceramic ariston hob is already close to 7 years and still working! It has seen frequent cooking as well and only 1 time, the fuse blew but that was fixed and no other problem came up that required me to call ariston's service centre either.

Friend just replace his 3 years Vitro hob from JF Home, and my colleague Teka induction claim warranty 3 times, funny the same model Teka, his sister using much longer without issue. Could be luck, or the usage pattern. Both seldom cook.

Ya depend on luck & usage pattern?

I choose not to seal the hob sides to my countertop because if have problem, can take out. It's fuss free. Need to make sure the hole is a proper fit

This post has been edited by S'aimer: Nov 11 2014, 10:10 PM

My apartment is a recent project - 2013. Thanks a lot for the concern raised and educating me. So much of details - really need time to digest them, at least for me. ..... The whole reno journey is a first time affair for me - it is extremely stressful to handle everything by myself with no or less knowledge in planning a renovation. Not sure what I will do without internet and all of you. Forumers here have been very generous in sharing their experience.

From most of your inputs, I gather that, it is better to get my electrician's advice on the wiring requirement before I purchase my hob. Will do that, certainly as a first step. In the meantime I will continue to scout for my choice of hobs.

For me, I never had to seek advice from my electrician for my hob wiring before purchasing the hob

Usually electricians should advise you on the wiring type after you have purchased the hob so that he knows the power rating for it.

But as halcyon27 asked about your condo period, then it is better to check with the condo management on the wiring as they should know best whether the wiring is meant to accommodate high or low wattage for electrical hobs or appliances.

Unlike landed property where owners can plan and even add new electrical setups, it is different for condos due to building restrictions and limitations regarding renovation because firstly the whole block is on same water supply, piping lines etc and probably similar electrical lines. Also maintenance for water supply and electrical supply is usually handled by the JMB for the condo if I am not mistaken. It might differ or vary among the management for each condo though.

Career26 - glad to be of help. For new development, well it's easier to check if you still have the brochure. Most would state bill of materials listing type of materials for floor, walls, windows, door, plumbing points, AC/lighting/fan/water heater points. Often, some will state how many electrical points at each location. Not many will state of these electrical points per location, how many are rated at what amperage (13A, 15A, 20A, etc.). Then confirm with developer as what S'aimer suggested if can add electrical point if necessary. Good luck and looking forward to your renovation journey sharing.

Hi there,

Thanks again. Got your message while having my breakfast. Thought I will post part of the brochure snapshot which I had it in my phone. Please refer to the Electrical installation details mentioned.

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