Tau xpe. 1 word can have like 10 different meanings.

Belajar arab komunikasi during skolah rendah dulu from darjah 4 smpai darjah 6 je. Tp ustazah yg ajar darjah 6 mmg strict sgt haha. Smpai skrg ingt ayat ni, "Ismah li ya <ustazah, ustaz, etc.>, uridu, an azhaba ila dauratil miyah." Klau x, mmg x lepas nk keluar gi toilet.

Terkesan kot. Although 9 thn dh lpas

Quick question,

Tunang itu sepatutnya dirahsiakan atau dihebahkan?

apa yang aku tau. kalau ikut islam. tunang kena rahsia.
so kalau muda mudi skarang ni yang kapel tu sepatutnya kena rahsiakan la da ada gf ke bf selagi tak nikah.

tapi aku ada overheard orang cakap, kalau orang tu dah bertunang, orang lain tak boleh nak datang merisik or something2. So, macam mana nak tau samada orang tu dah bertunang or not kalau di rahsia kan?

betu la tu. dah tunang orang lain tak boleh kacau. yang aku faham la, di rahsiakan tu maksudnya tak di heboh heboh kan. bukan tak boleh diberitahu langsung. kalau ada orang datang merisik tu boleh la bagitahu. mungkin tak bagitahu siapa gf or bf secara spesifik tapi cukup la untuk orang merisik tu paham.

oo okay faham, sebab nampak orang macam debate dekat twitter haritu, tapi macam takde kesudahannya

Dah bertunang perlu diberitahu pada yang bertanya.
bertunang atau tidak, bercouple walau tidak berpegang tangan adalah haram.
merisik masih boleh kalau tidak tahu, masa tu baru tahu. Yang masih merisik walau dah tahu itu saja buat masalah.

English and Arabic language structure and grammar has a lot of similarities compared to Malay. Similarly I find it is easier to learn Mandarin via Malay language medium compared to English (Malay n Chinese language more similar if u get what I mean).

For me best dictionary to refer if wanna learn Arabic is Al-mawrid English-arabic-english dictionary.

Yes, hence d purpose of merisik, i.e. to find out if d girl is attached or not. After merisik then u know she's not available and u should step back.

What is prohibited is masuk meminang knowingly that d girl already engaged to someone else (d mentaliti selagi belum kawin still ada chance).

Dihebahkan, tapi bukan maksud hebahkan usung tunang ke hulu ke hilir sampai tengah malam. Perempuan cukup pakai cincin saja dah konsider 'menghebahkan' yang dia dah bertunang/berkahwin so orang lain jangan jacau daun.

The hadis says pertunangan patut dirahsiakan, perkahwinan patut dihebahkan. U are correct also tho, pertunangan perlu diberitahu kepada yg bertanya and definitely tak payah buat kenduri bagi. As the trend nowadays, kenduri for bertunang mengalahkan walimah kawin.

Qur'an kata apa ?

Qur'an kata to follow sunnah as d purpose among others to complement or explain things that may not be detailed in the Quran..

Mana ? Which ayat ? which surah ?

I'm not sure what do u imply by this..are you anti hadis? (sorry if I misunderstood).

Lots of verses that Allah asked to follow what Rasul asks to do and leave what he forbids eg. an-nisa':59, 64, al-hasyr: 7, al-anfal 20..

Provided of course it must be hadis sahih..

No, but I would prefer if someone said to me Qur'an says this and that to give the source so that I can verify myself.

Saya bukan hafiz. Nowadays people easily say Qur'an says this and that, hadis says this and that. Without verification itu yang lepas gi Syria join ISIS tu.

In any case, sahih or not, hadiths are not infallible.

This post has been edited by aliesterfiend: Mar 26 2015, 03:53 PM

I see.. Probably the better way to go about it is to ask about the source of the hadith. True that Al-Quran is in higher authority but hadith also is equally divine revelation and a source of Islamic teaching. I agree that one should check d sources including hadith so that one do not spread riwayat palsu or dhaif. If u learn ulum hadis u will know that d method to ascertain the authenticity or level of hadis is very2 meticulous, very stringent procedure.

If a hadith is proven sahih it is a valid source, no issue of infallibility.

By the way the previous hadith I mentioned is from sahih bukhari book 5 no 884. Muslim also reported similar riwayat.

interesting bro. So, mana bro tahu tunang perlu hebah dan pakai cincin? Dari quran ke?

No. Ikut current mores. Nowadays dah jarang perempuan dok kat rumah saja. Lepas belajar kerja and so on even until kahwin. So pakai cincin tunang (or kahwin) is consider menghebahkan dah.

How many of us still perform the traditional risik ?