I dont know if you mean "press conference" of something, but the face of Abu Bakar al-Baghdadi is quite known..

I want to ask you guys something, do you guys actually want this "caliph system" to come back to the muslim community? If yes, (or no), why?

Okay, we all agree what IS is saying are dangerous.

So you are saying, what we have right now is similar. Therefore there is no need for it to be the same as the ancient time's (caliphate) system. Is that correct?

This "caliphate system" can be anything, because the power is in the hand of the caliph.

originally, during the Rasyidun, its like what you said, election, syura, etc, but after that, it became absolute monarchy. A complete 180 degree! And not "not, never inherited". On the contrary, the caliphate has become a hereditary absolute monarchies. Inherited. And some become dictator.

It is also important to remember that a caliph is originally not a religious leader.

So basically, over the years, the caliphate system has been "corrupted"...

I agree. We don't have to always connect physical world with the Islamic teachings such as heaven and hell.

No, it is not gambling gambling. I don't see any problem whatsoever with that.

Reason being, it is just a game, for fun, for positive outcome, for relationship. No need for anyone to be a hardass killjoy.
Besides, poker involve a lot of strategical and psychological skill.

That is what we were talking about. About heaven (and hell), not langit/sky/space.

Wrong or right, tak apa lah.. It's good that we have different views..

While it makes you think about angels/jinn, to me, this is about cosmology. And I think you mean "on earth", not "physical world".

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Speaking of cosmology, it's unfortunate that many non-believers think that theist "reject" science. And this happen because of the fault from both sides.
1)
Non-believers, especially "new atheist", they equate their "atheism" with science, it's almost like it should be "scientism" .
Therefore, to them, when we don't agree with their "atheism", we don't agree with science. Which is totally wrong.
2)
Us theist, ourselves, many of us don't think logically because we cage our mind with certain teachings that we received since young.
Islam and science do not go against each other, but I see many muslim only learn Islam, and disregard science.
So they have no counter-arguments to the anti-theist, other than simply calling them kaffir, calling them musuh Islam yang menyesatkan etc.

It's okay to disagree with something (but disagree with respect), if we have adequate knowledge on it, and then make our judgement. But to disagree with something while being ignorant about it, is totally wrong. This goes to both believers and nonbelievers.

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I hope today's khutbah be one with good knowledge and intellectual.

Terjemahannya di atas ni boleh diertikan dengan beberapa erti (disebabkan oleh ciri2 bahasa melayu itu sendiri). So aku kena tengok beberapa terjemahan English, baru lebih faham.
Perkataan "sehingga" tu lebih senang di fahami kalau di translate kepada "unless", instead of "until". Ataupun comma sebelum "until". Ataupun"sehinggalah".


Yes. Not only we are brothers to each other, to the other people of the abrahamic religions also we are "brothers" in the sense that we are ahli buku.

So sedangkan dengan Kristian dan Yahudi pun kita saudara (aku rasa ramai yang tak setuju ni, hehe), kenapa pula sesama Islam pun kita bergaduh..


Yea.. Benda yang baik2, kita patut ikut. Setiap individu, setiap pihak, ada baik buruk. Yang buruk tu kita kena pandai2 lah asingkan dan tolak.

bukan paling tepat lagi, dah memang dia dah pun.. cuma aku yang belum berapa minat mahu belajar arab, baca terjemahan ja la..

Ult li albi bissaraha	I'm opening up my heart with honesty
Hayya nab'idil karaha	Let's avoid the hated and hatred
Syakkireena a' kulli na'ma	Let's remain thankful with what we have
Ba' ideena anil fattana	Let's avoid all lies and sins

Nak share.. Jumaat baru2 ni, khutbah dia bagus. I was delighted. Happy.

Cakap pasal larangan memaki agama lain.
Larangan memaki tuhan agama lain.
Larangan kebencian pada yahudi dan kristian.
Mengingatkan bahawa Muhammad berkawan baik dan menjaga orang2 yahudi dan kristian semasa di Madinah.

Pemahaman yang semakin terkikis pada masyarakat muslim malaysia.

Pendekatan aqli dan naqli, dua2 penting.

But nowadays got many people who only look at naqli, and completely disregard aqli.

Even simple things, they need a somewhat "naqli" support.

For example, I sigh seeing people "sharing" post in facebook of a quote from an ustaz saying being rude to parents is bad.
Basically, like some people urging religious bodies to officially issue a righting/correcting statement for an obvious wrong people do.

It's a good support, yes. But for people to depend on it solely, that's the sad part.

Itu body alarm clock sebab badan dah terbiasa, so automatic..

Alang2, nak jugak share, yang bila masa tidur "kena tindih" tu sebenarnya "sleep paralysis". Bukan kena tindih jin ka setan ka apakejadah semua.

Maka post itu lah pencerahan. You're welcome.

Banyak benda adalah alat berjudi. Sukan pun alat berjudi.

Memang biasa ada berbeza pendapat. It's a normal thing.

Tapi kalau comes down to the wire, bagi aku, ikut rationale:
Apa yang dimaksudkan dengan "berjudi".
Kenapa berjudi tu haram, apa akar umbi nya.
Bagi aku, as an alat, tak buat benda tu haram. Pisau alat menyembelih. Pistol alat membunuh. Dan macam aku cakap, sukan pun alat berjudi.

So in the end, aku follow rationale. Main daun terup bukan berjudi. Pakai perfume ada alkohol bukan minum arak. Makan semeja dengan perempuan kat McD bukan mendekati zina.


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This is the very thing I've been talking about. Some people are not thinking, but only taqleed: just follow teachings without thinking.

Wow.

Sebab para ustaz pun berlainan pendapat. So ikut lain ustaz, lain lah ajarannya. You can do whatever you want, follow whoever you want, but I don't do taqleed. If you want to, up to you. Sebab tu ada "bagi aku" this that this that, sebab lain2 pemikiran. Fact to the matter is, Islam today is not one single teaching. Ramai orang memang berlainan pendapat. So instead of bergaduh (macam mambangafro cakap ) we should accept the differences in opinion, and improve ourselves. Because in the end, a faith is your personal relationship with God, personal devotion to Him.

Thank you!

Pernah baca satu post tu dari seorang ustaz di facebook yang kononnya dapat tangkap gambar jin, selepas baca surah apa lupa, pastu tiup ka apa.. Last2 kantoi cuma sebuah toy android app. topkek.. Malaysian yang kolot pemikiran semua dok percaya la ustaz tu..

That is indeed, the issue. We are now, they are then.

I wish we all would start thinking critically. But unfortunately, many have been romanticized by the traditional teachings. Romanticized meaning not thinking critically, di buai2, di awang2an, not realistic. Tu yang ada panji hitam ni semua. So-called khalifah ni semua. Romanticized.

Of course the teaching is true. But to them, how they understood "the teaching is true" is that people are not allowed to question it. Must just follow.

Whatever it is, I just cannot agree with taqleed. I mean, some people actually believe it is forbidden to think?? Oh WOW. Like seriously. Wow. It's.. I can't even..

Yeah, and back then, if one differ opinion, will be tortured and killed. But how many today knows that? Still thinking back then all is good and rosey?

The very thing I talked about, aqli & naqli. Yep. Exhibit A^.

Regarding the celebration thingy, I already stated my opinion on the matter.

Depends on how you see it, so you judge yourself, and nobody should force you to do or not do something harmless.

They are not an army.. just a bunch of romanticized puritanical traditionalist with tiny brain and no heart.