whoah..easy there. anyway if its any consolation I'm not that good in guitar..heck I can't handle six so I play the bass..4 strings=much easier

Anyways, the dim in me earlier posts refer to diminished chords...you know Ddim or Cdim. Yes, the chord is constructed: R-flat3-flat5 however this is actually a simple diminished chord... the complete chord should be r-flat3-flat5-doubleflat7.. huh double flat 7? yep... so in a c dim chord you've got c-eflat-gflat-A (flat of b flat). So how do you even solo/scale over a dim chord?? easy you construct a diminished scale!

2 ways: w-h scale or h-w scale (whole step-half step)

w-h scale is constructed by alternating w and h...e.g. w-h-w-h-w-h-w-h which works out to be a R-3flat-5flat-6flat-7double flat-7-R

so a Cdim scale you can use to sound real (malmsteenish or neo-rockish..sorry I'm a bassist after all) would be

c-d-eflat-f-gflat-aflat-a-b-c

make sure you resolve this scale cos though it sounds really cool and mystical...it really sorta hangs.....soloing with minor scales...stick to learning your melodic minors....more useful and pleasant sounding....

hope this helps ya.

ooops...h-w scale is constructed...yeah you guessed it with alternating half and whole steps...

I too suffer from GAS.....*group hug*

This post has been edited by stefanong: Sep 21 2006, 03:06 PM

if you want to start on the loonies of theory learn intervals it'll make everything easier to understand.

but anyway, this site should answer all your theory questions.

http://www.musictheory.net/

I'm trying to understand it.Go home and read more about it.Thanks!

you need to go drink a few beers, or preferably a few bottles of jack daniels
you called yourself a beginner, so what im saying is no point learning diminished or whatever if you dunno the basics.
but then if you do know the basics, learning diminished chords isnt a problem.
so see where im getting at?

i see where you're getting at... you're getting at the exact place where darrencw is gonna throw his guitar away, through your face

well, if he follows my advice and drinks all those beers and whisky...it'll be me robbing him of his guitar

Yes, i understand what ure saying.But the thing is i'm not sure that whether what i know is diminshed stuff anot.

Dude, if u want my kapok can i gladly throw at u for free.

why are diminished chords suddenly getting so much attention?

darrencw: Just learn what you feel like. If you want to learn diminished chords then do it. Why bother going round asking for opinion and subjecting yourself to being made fun of? Whoever said you can't learn diminished chords because you are a beginner? And if you don't know whether you are playing "diminished stuff" then go get a chord book and find out. It's the best solution if you don't want to know the theory behind it. If you feel hardworking enough, then google up some chord construction website and learn how to build chords. It's not that difficult. If you don't understand what the website is saying, then post a link here and ask your questions. Nobody is discouraging you here, you are discouraging yourself. So snap out of it and start learning the "diminished stuff".

darrencw :

haha gud saying bassix. diminished chords sounds catchy n fun
learning it wil definiteli help on widening ya horizon

the point is just go for the melody lines you wanted
it doesn't reli matter what name is the thing is
"DIMINISHED" "AUGMENTED" "MIXOLYDIAN" and so on

the terms wil go on and on
so yea!! learn as much as u want
keep up the gud work

Yo, thanks guys for all the advise.