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 Gold Investment Corner V8, All About Gold

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sinbad2k
post Feb 20 2016, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(astrowoon @ Feb 19 2016, 06:42 PM)
Thanks for the info! Haven't redeemed actually. Read that paper gold market might collapse in the near future:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-17/c...y-be-close-hand

Wanna cash in since it is already in profit...Might settle in cash and buy Kijang Emas later.
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Already in profit? Have you take into account for the charges of RM1 for every 1g?I reckon if you're already making profit, might as well cash out and close the account and use the funds to buy gold coin. It should save you more $$ to buy more physical gold bullion. That's what I did previously.

Kijang Emas is fine. It's a sovereign gold coin with 999.9 fineness. It probably also a good idea to consider other gold coin like Canadian Maple Leaf or Kangaroo Nugget as these are well known gold coins internationally. But it probably doesn't matter if you're not travelling out of the country.

QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 20 2016, 12:53 AM)
May I ask what gold bar cimb give u???
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Nope, I didn't request to withdraw physical gold from CIMB. I read somewhere that it's some other kind of gold bar. And you have to have minimum 100g of gold to withdraw a gold bar and in multiples of 100g. Also, RM1 is charged for every 1g of gold as withdrawal fee. So, if one want to withdraw physical gold bar, you're set to lose RM100/gold bar. Might as well cash out and close the account and use the funds to buy physical gold right?

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post Feb 20 2016, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 20 2016, 04:02 PM)
Hmmmmmm as long as its pamp and cheaper then outside I think its worth it...hmmmm
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well, that u have to survey around first. I reckon it's not cheaper.
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post Feb 20 2016, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 20 2016, 05:38 PM)
Hahha now too late liao I bought around 443 gram of physical gold all pamp gold bars plus some gold coins while it was much cheaper hopefully it will go back down real soon..I am hopping... I still want to collect more as some of my friends has 14kg of physical gold!!!! I ask them to sell me cheap cheap they don't want lol haih still have much much much physical gold to store b4 im satisfied... I dun think I will ever reach 14kg sad.gif
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MY whole point is, you can close your CIMB GIA and take the $ to buy PAMP gold bars with it instead of buying from CIMB(if they do indeed give PAMP) since you're set to lose RM100/gold bar.

443g? Wow....that's a lot.. 14kg! That's like >RM1m worth of gold! You and your friends are loaded??
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post Feb 20 2016, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 20 2016, 07:46 PM)
443 a lot?? Not really lah... sweat.gif its like punny compared to my friend 14kg friend...my friend is a gold smith his grandfather and father has been collecting physical gold since 1950 when u know lah gold is very cheappp!! Really jealous of him everytime he show me those gold bar ka na sai!!!!
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that's y i ask are you and your friend loaded? Since 50's? I see. I thought all those 14kg belongs to your friend. Your friend is definitely loaded...
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post Feb 21 2016, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 20 2016, 10:24 PM)
My friends is definitely damn rich those gold kg gold bar are in the million shocking.gif... Me poor guy just that after my friend educate me on how gold can protect my weath when RM going down!! Many think gold is an investment when its not. Anyway thanks to him and his father advice me I got to the gold game...he told me to buy when the time was right i and advice me to only buy pamp gold bars... and now looking back it was a pretty good desicion...also he told me never never sell my gold unless I absolutely need to not even when gold reach 2000usd doh.gif I dun know lah...I see how lah if gold ever reach 2000usd lol I think that's how they reach 14kg since they never sell lol

Hmmmm now that I think of it I feel like steal my friends gold brows.gif

Anyway any of u guys plan to buy additional gold at the price of usd1226/ounce??? U guys think it will go up or down...personally I hope it goes down to 980usd so I can buy more tongue.gif
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Ok fine, it's a relative comparison. I'm even poorer. It depends on who you're talking to when it comes to the word "investment". In general, to people in general, it's an investment. And as with other investments, you could either make gain or loss. To some other people, their definition of "investment" are something that earn % and because gold doesn't, they shun away from gold and despise them, jeer, sneer and ridicule those who owns them based on that. Lot's of people buy them as a hedge against currency depreciation but I got them as a hedge against crisis.
I'm waiting for it to go under 1K....

QUOTE(Tavia88 @ Feb 21 2016, 12:02 PM)
Hi Guys,

Any advise where is the best place and type of physical gold that i could purchase around Klang Valley / KL ? As if not mistaken those in Poh Kong is charged with design fees right so not worth for investment.

Im purely wish to keep some for small investment..

Any advise?
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For "investment", never buy from gold jewellery shops. Try Ar-Rahnu?Or gold coins like Kijang Emas or Canadian Maple Leaf, Kangaroo nugget from UOB?
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post Feb 22 2016, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 22 2016, 11:59 AM)
Become a dealer then spread is lower??? That doesn't make sense at all...gold as u put is is gold what difference does it make if ure a normal customer or a dealer... hmm.gif

Here in malaysia the spread is shit...but pamp is internationally recognize so if want to liquidate I will bring else where.
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Can consider gold coin instead. Kijang Emas from Maybank or GML/GKN/SGL from UOB bank.
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post Feb 22 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 22 2016, 03:21 PM)
I know I already confirm untung rm300++ for 1 of my coins...
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then let's wait for the price to dive below USD1K for a bargain buy...
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post Feb 22 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 22 2016, 03:51 PM)
Ok lah...I do agree if u dun want mafan research this and that publoc gold does offer the convenience for a price tongue.gif

But a word of advice to gold bug from my sifu....never ever under any circumstances let other people/company hold ur physical gold  especially when its in paper form whistling.gif look at geneva gold until now dun know what happen lol
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You don't own it if you can't hold it. smile.gif
I personally stay away from bars that is not recognised worldwide (except for gold coins) or at least it has to be from well known mints.
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post Feb 22 2016, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 22 2016, 10:14 PM)
lol typical mistake by most Malaysian!

when one sees "public" name, straight think about Public Bank  blush.gif  tongue.gif
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name games....it always works.
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post Feb 26 2016, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Feb 26 2016, 01:12 AM)
Well looking at the picture RIGHT now the best time to buy was last year sad.gif I also feel haven't have enuf physical gold yet sad.gif

Anyway while we wait let's have a golden donut... Yes you can eat 24k 999.9 gold!!! smile.gif


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It's last year right before our RM falls (around August) and last December.

QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Feb 26 2016, 08:17 AM)
Don't only accumulate gold, silver has higher potential due to its current high ratio to gold at 80:1

http://secularinvestor.com/gold-market-exp...-market-explode
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I've been wondering about this, how many silver dealers are there in klang valley or rather in msia that you could go to liquidate ur silvers?
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post Feb 26 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Feb 26 2016, 01:16 PM)
I would never recommend people to sell their gold or silver to dealers who offered Buy Back. Simple reason, their buyback price is just too low. U can always find many buyers at higher than the dealers' buy back price in forums.  Don't believe? Try out.... sell RM1/oz higher than Dealers' buyback price, u would hv the item sold soonest than u thought. (I would b one of the many potential buyers, :-)
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where will u get ur cash to buy back if all ur customers want to liquidate their PM?
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Mar 2 2016, 06:19 PM)
U said maybank leeerrrr whistling.gif and then u tukar cimb now again so inconsistent whistling.gif laugh.gif

Anyway cimb I also check liao no such thing...cannot convert paper gold to physical leeer whistling.gif

Actually I was hoping u be right cause I want to buy from bank physical gold bar...but pls dun speard false info leeerrr doh.gif whistling.gif if cimb really can I might just go buy paper gold and convert it to gold bars  2morrow lol whistling.gif
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actually, CIMB gold investment account has an option to withdraw physical gold from the "paper gold" account. Min balance to withdraw is 100g and in multiples of 100g. On top of that, RM1 is charged for every 1g that is withdrawn. I was put off for the extra charge previously and was not sure what kind of gold bar they're giving so I close my account and use the cash to buy Kijang Emas instead..
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(luxluxlux @ Mar 2 2016, 06:27 PM)
ok my bad.. i dun even read ur replies anymore.

i merely said fr i read years ago. before i started doing it.

yes i did not feel comfortable investing i GIA any kind of paper gold but i wouldnt call them scam.

conventional banking system has been proven not sustainable since years to date but do i call it scam? even if i want to i dont want to haha
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In a way, the paper gold account by cimb is a scam if one wish to withdraw physical gold.
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post Mar 2 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(luxluxlux @ Mar 2 2016, 06:35 PM)
Like I said it's there in t&c

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Yes, it's there in T&C. But an unfair one. Designed to "scam" those who doesn't have the habit of reading t&c. Do you know that, in some countries, regardless of what's stated in t&c, the consumer can still take cases to court and the judges have known to judge in favour of the consumer because it's morally wrong?
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post Mar 3 2016, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Mar 2 2016, 06:38 PM)
Ok cimb can but only at kl sad.gif

Just check with my gold friend but I confirm maybank cannot whistling.gif

It seem like uob only in kl but I want in my area sad.gif
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Yup, only UOB hq in kl sells physical gold and they never restock their gold. I've tried buying 1 Oz. PAMP and they said they don't have stock for along time. They'll only have stock if customers who bought from them sells them back the gold bar. And their smaller gold bars are all out of stock too. Luckily, I could still get some 1 Oz. gold coins. The spread is just 3.6%(today's price)

QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Mar 2 2016, 07:06 PM)
Malaysia memang like that 1 lah...international price us rm170/ gram but jeweler in my area sell at 205 pergram!!! memang cut people troat lah doh.gif

That why I prefer to buy from bank at least more resonable...
Anyway Imho I understand bank need to make money also so if cimb spread is reasonable I ok also...but u say already need rm100 haih...anyway goona clarify with cimb avalable in my area or not
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that's what I read in the T&C of the cimb gold account.

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post Mar 3 2016, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(zodd @ Mar 3 2016, 11:20 PM)
Waht to do. the BSM office rental at the ioi boulevard must be expensive. need money to cover.
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silvermalaysia's spread is like that too. I reckon it's not because of rent but rather that's what most people buys, and also generally smaller sizes' spread are higher because of the cost of making them. And it make sense too that you would to take advantage to make the most profit out from the most sellable item you have, right?

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post Mar 4 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(angmoreasian @ Mar 4 2016, 05:29 PM)
Haiiihhhh sad day for gold bug!!!! I think got invisible hand go kacau gold again I think etf paper gold again haiihhh...hope it go back to july august level sad.gif
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am still waiting for the final drop before it shoots up... will that day come or it's shooting up now...?... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(demolationz @ Mar 7 2016, 07:42 AM)
Hi, guys. I'm still new in this area.

Lets say, I bought a pamp suisse gold bar. Then, should I keep it until the gold price goes up?

Where to sell it then?
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If you're buying gold to make a quick short profit, you'll get burned easily.
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Mar 8 2016, 11:09 AM)
those who bought physical gold, how to know if the gold is genuine??
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We could only rely on trust and the reputation of the seller unless you want to take the gold you bought and had it assayed(which would damage your gold if they use certain methods). Reputable seller usually sell genuine gold. Gold coin sold by banks like Kijang Emas or other gold coin/bars from UOB bank are definitely genuine (unless you don't trust the banks).

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Mar 10 2016, 05:34 PM)
I was reading the first post of this thread and the table indicated that all the banks allow for physical gold withdrawal rather than cash. Is this true? I kinda read/heard somewhere that only KFH allows for physical gold withdrawals.

Thanks in advance!
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read a few pages back from here, you'll get some ideas...

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