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This post has been edited by smileguy: Jun 16 2016, 08:51 PM

Before you say that I was talking nonsense, please read very carefully on what I have written. Use your head before saying anything stupid to me. No where did I infer to you for Ass-throw to subsidise for me. What I have stated was my opinion that Ass-throw should have given the option to us to choose SEPARATED Pass for the Euro CUp 2016 and the Olympics instead of giving us just one Sports Pass for Euro Cup 2016 and stating the Rio Olympics 2016 is given "free".

Its ridiculous for you to resort to telling me to go to "Mamak" and watch, which is typical for people like you who speaks nonsense because you are merely guessing that I was complaining about paying for the Sports Pass. Read carefully before you make guesses and hurl such stupid nonsense such as asking me to go to mamak stall to watch. Can you please tell me which words or sentence which imply that I "expect Ass-throw to subsidise the cost for me"?

Yes, I DO know that every company would have charged the same expensive exorbitant price for such Events. I don't deny that. What I am poking fun at, was the tactics used by Ass-throw (yes, including other companies) which usually takes the opportunity not only to charge expensively but also uses such methods as combining 2 Live events together and then having the cheek to call the Rio Olympics given free.

Ass-throw (or any other companies) might as well tell us this, as an EXAMPLE only....
Euro Cup RM 33.00
Rio Olympics RM 100.00
Sign up for both now at ONLY RM 104.00.

I am forced to show YOU the above example to CLEARLY show you what I had meant earlier.

You will be surprised on how many people wants this or that but NOT BOTH together.

By all means, encourage people to take up 2 events together by showing a cheaper COMBO price... AND at the same time allow people to CHOOSE which event that they want to watch. As unlikely as you may think, there will be people who actually don't want to watch Euro Cup and wants to ONLY watch Rio Olympics, and vice versa. There are people who just can't afford the RM 104+ and can only take up Euro Cup for a lesser amount, and there will other valid reasons too. SO... when you meet with such people, do you actually tell these people to go to mamak and watch? Its really stupid to say that! Luckily you did NOT say "go and fly kite, cheapskate"!!

A person can be smart most of the time and yet can still be stupid sometimes. This even happened to the genius Albert Einstein too. I don't know about what other people may think BUT I believe that you are a person who just CANNOT tolerate people constantly jabbing whoever or complaining about whatever. I DO understand that. As I have stated previously, remember that everyone DO have the right to praise or complain and whether you like it or not, you just cannot simply throw out your frustrations at others when you feel that people should accept whatever that is a forgone conclusion or inevitable! You can express your frustrations here BUT NOT simply shoot bullets at me (or anyone) just because you don't like it.

Since all companies are already expected to be blood sucking draculas, does that mean that anyone cannot open his/her mouth? Does people who continue to harp on this irritates you so much that you imply people who complains as cheapskate who have the money but too "kedekut" to pay for it? That is what you implied when you tell me to "go to mamak to watch". When you hurled such words at me, you are indirectly firing at anyone who complained about similar "expensive price" saying that they are "kedekut". Of course, there are many situations that I encountered in my life that the word "stingy" was in my mind BUT I did not say it out because I considered it rude, really rude. I repeat... telling me that I "expected As-throw to subsidise me" AND telling me to go to the "mamak" DOES IMPLY me as being stingy. In the sales world, implying "stingy" to any customer is ALWAYS a NO NO NO... any customer will certainly leave without buying anything.

When someone here previously kept on "requesting for more new channels" for 3 times, I got irritated and wanted to reply to his third request but my better sense stopped me because he does have the RIGHT to request it or support Ass-throw. I just cannot simply tell that guy with statements such as "if you want more channels to be launched, why don't you leave Malaysia and go to other countries such as Singapore or Japan"... for me, that will be stupid of me to say that and luckily, I controlled my irritation or frustration and did NOT state that to him. NO matter how much I am irked by this, I have to accept it. In the same way, no matter how much I irked you with my criticisms of Ass-throw, you should also accept it. It would be totally unfair of you to expect me to accept it when you did NOT.

In my head now, I may be wrong, I am already thinking that you usually got fed-up whenever anyone or whoever pushes out complains against Ass-throw for anything such as "expensive price" or incessant complains about "repeats", "too much commercials" and "rain fade". Yes, I WILL accept it if you had expressed that you are fed-up with my constant complains. Its really too much of you to accuse me of talking "nonsense" when I DID make "sense" when people are forced to take BOTH Sports Events without giving us the option to take only one! If anything here is nonsense to you, I think its because you choose not to make any sense of it.

Just because I stated that Euro Cup is RM52+ and Rio Olympics is RM 52+, do not imply that I speak nonsense because I am merely showing to people here that there is "something" behind the Ass-throw commercial message which tells people to get the pass now and get the Rio Olympics for FREE! If you think that this is nonsense, then your thinking is a bit narrow loh. When I laughed at Ass-throw for pushing out such message, there is absolutely NOTHING that implies me to be "kedekut" (stingy)

Use your head and look at this in a much broader way. Let me give you a very CLEAR example here. Everyone, including you and me DO already know as a matter of FACT that we will NEVER get rid of corruption or piracy... so because of this, is it your same belief that we should NOT complain or NOT say anything? If you say that its different because these are important issues (or whatever reasons) so we should voice it ... then I will believe that you are practising double standards... you can do something and others cannot do the same thing. The situation will NOT get better when people constantly harp on this, when anyone tries to make people aware of such issues BUT without it, the situation may go worse. EDIT : changed "will" to "may" go worse. Speaking out don't help... keeping quiet also don't help too.

There are 3 reasons which caused such reactions from me.

Nonsense... Does not make sense... in which area did I not make sense?

Expect Ass-throw to subsidise for me... you completely did NOT state which part of my words used imply that I was not willing to fork out the money.

Don't want to pay their Euro or Olympics fee, then go mamak and watch la!... this implies that I am stingy (kedekut), complained but not wanting to pay for it. Its totally ridiculous for you to make such assumption when you cannot prove that I am not willing to pay. For your information, I did mention in my previous post that I will be slowing reducing my subscription package and will stop the Sports Pack after the Olympic Games. That means I am already watching Euro Cup now and NOT what you assume that I was complaining because I was not willing to pay. Even if you do not believe that I subscribed to Sports Pack, you don't even have any proof that I did not subscribe it too!

I believed that I have said enough to explain exactly where your reply are just rubbish which are clearly based on wrong assumptions and lack any coherence or objectivity on your part... and too eager to lash out at me by telling me to go to "mamak to watch" because I think you were not thinking properly due to your "fed-up and angry" state of mind. Let me tell you this... when I become very aggressive in any criticisms of me, I will always stay cool to allow me to think properly and expressed myself coherently.

I still want to be fair to you. IF you can counter reply whatever I replied here with facts or even common sense and logic to explain why you stated those 3 reasons above... then I WILL admit that you were right in your accusations of me. No problems for me. Of course I will not admit being wrong if you talk rubbish again in your reply. There is always one thing that I will always remember... if I criticize anyone, I must expect people to criticize back, right or wrong and this is normal.

Never tell anyone to do "something stupid" such as go to "mamak to watch" if you only want to express your snobbishness.... you will get much more credibility if you had explained why and where the words implied "stingy".

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jun 16 2016, 10:13 PM

I dont think such rudeness in needed here,if opinions and frustrations are deemed nonsense then whatever excuses are also nonsense! Customers has the power but if customers themselves start to defend a provider of course year after year the cost will escalate and customer bears it all Delayed and flooded with adverts yet they dont mind .If in indonesia Local FTA provider carries football why in malaysia cannot? Think abt it! They kicked astro who wanted to control their football out of indonesia,in less then a few years!





This post has been edited by smileguy: Jun 17 2016, 06:00 AM

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I think I understood why Smileguy deleted his earlier post. No problem, its okay.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jun 17 2016, 12:12 AM

dual post

This post has been edited by smileguy: Jun 17 2016, 06:02 AM

BTW ,James I deleted earlier cos I did not quote the issue which triggered my comment Your points have been noted and you have spoken for the silent majority!

I didn't know that you deleted it was because you didn't quote which person's reply that triggered your reply. Small matter, no problem.

Actually you can edit your post and insert the quote into it just by clicking on the "Reply" button for that person's post that you want to quote. When inside the editing box, you can select all the box contents and copy it... then go out of that editing box by canceling it. Next, after leaving the "reply box", click on your post that you wish to edit, and paste to whichever area you want the quote to appear.

Everything below here have nothing to do with Smileguy...below are just my further comments on BaronVonchesto earlier reply to my post...

Actually I do understand why BaronVonchesto misunderstood me because of the way I expressed myself there. He is only reading just sentence by sentence without understanding the entire meaning that I am actually trying to say. He totally misunderstood it when I said "NO such thing as... I can only afford to watch Euro Cup 2016 and want to pay RM 52+". My earlier sentence mentioned "So... whichever way you choose, you must get both" so I was actually saying what any person could have said when he/she (in apostrophes) "... I can only afford to watch Euro Cup..." This is actually my reference of such person who could have said that so its actually NOT ME who was saying that!!

Even if any person cannot afford this or that and complains about it, one should avoid calling people stingy (kedekut) because there are many reasonable factors that we don't actually know behind such complains. Let me give you a similar analogy... A person saw a Ferrari car in a showroom and made a comment that its overpriced here in Malaysia when its much much cheaper in other countries. We should complain about such overpriced cars in Malaysia!... and then there is an idiot standing nearby telling that person that he is talking nonsense and if he are so stingy about it, then go and buy it in another country with cheaper price! Do you think its right to say that to him? He has the right to complain about it, it does NOT mean that he will actually buy it or not. He is just complaining and does NOT mean that he is stingy.

He should have looked at the entire "story" behind my post there and not relying on merely which sentence that I have said. Actually I do NOT have any problems when he disliked my post there because no one can please everyone. Even IF he got fed-up or for whatever reasons he disliked me, he should never hurled words which included "nonsense" and "go to mamak to watch" because he made LOTS of assumptions which is actually not clear to him. If he is not clear on what I am pointing at in my post there, then he should have asked me the actual reason for talking in that way... and NOT making absurd rude remarks at me. He makes me feel as though he is behaving like a cyber bully! Let me be clear here... I threw away those cyber bully feelings about him because he is NOT. But I cannot control what other people thinks about him.

What actually happened when I posted my comments about the Ass-throw Sports Pass was the result of my conversation with a few of my friends at a (surprise, surprise) mamak shop enjoying my "roti canai". One of my friend commented that he did not subscribe to the Sports Pack and the Sports Pass is expensive. Maybe its because of the roti canai that I was eating, suddenly I thought about "why didn't Ass-throw have 2 different Passes instead of just 1 Combo Pass"? Then I analysed this with my friends and ALL of them said "Ya Loh" and did NOT realise this if I did not put it in that way. THAT... was why I posted my thoughts here earlier because I believe there will be people who didn't think about it in that way.

My elaborate explanations in my previous post there was to let people BE AWARE that may be something very fishy that Ass-throw may be trying to hide when they sell their Sports Pass with the so-called "FREE" Rio Olympics.

I was actually wondering what are the prices that Ass-throw or any Satellite/Cable TV Broadcaster could have charged for the Euro Cup 2016 and Rio Olympics as SEPARATED Passes. I admit that I am lazy to check on this situation in Singapore. Mmm... since the Euro Cup is available only on 2 Paid Channels with less events (51 matches) compared to the many more events for Rio Olympics on 24 Paid channels... I have the suspicion that Ass-throw could have charged cheaper for just the Euro Cup at maybe RM 30 to RM 50 compared to the more expensive Rio Olympics at maybe RM 80 to RM 120. Yes, I am only guessing on the prices. When I showed this out to people here, it is NOT complaining about being too expensive and NOT about Ass-throw being the only one at fault. Yes, there are others that are main culprits. I ALREADY KNEW that purchasing the rights to broadcast is very expensive.

I would think that procuring the broadcast rights to the Euro Cup should be much cheaper than for Rio Olympics where much more live events are involved with many more channels required. I never said that either one of them is cheap. This is the reason why I was thinking that Ass-throw could have charged much cheaper for just one Euro Cup instead of "bundling" together both Euro Cup & Rio Olympics which I think is a dirty tactic to suck people's money. There will be people who only have time to just watch the Euro Cup (or whatever reasons) but do not want to watch the Olympics so, these people could have just paid maybe RM 50 instead of being "forced" to pay RM 104 for BOTH the Euro Cup and Rio Olympics. Even if Euro is half the combo price at RM 52+, such people don't have to pay the full RM 104+. Its not about putting the blame on which company. Its not about complaining about how or why its expensive. Its about letting people be aware there is more than something behind the word "get the Rio Olympics for FREE". Its about letting people know that there is actually another option that can be made available with TWO different Sports Passes for the Euro Cup and the Rio Olympics which Ass-throw is "silent" about. Its about my believe that there are people who don't realize this when they paid for this "bundled" Sports Pass.

Even though I have made many assumptions without any proof, I have explained the reasons for my school of thought based upon my own logical reasoning so I believe its nothing wrong for me to do that here. Anyone here can disagree with me on this BUT "nonsense" should not be simply thrown at me by that person because my explanations makes sense.

There will be people who suspects and may even have proof about any bad or filthy tactics but they chose to keep quiet or hide it from people. That's their choice and their right to do so. For me, I chose to show it out and express myself... hehehe... if I have the free time to do it.

SO... BaronVonchesto misses my point entirely because I CAN actually afford it, I am not stingy and I am NOT talking NONSENSE.

As I have stated in my previous post... "With Euro 2016 + Rio Olympics, Ass-throw kills 2 birds with just 1 stone."

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jun 17 2016, 08:37 PM

Starhub dropping a handful of Fox Networks Group chs like Ch [V] Intl, [V] Taiwan, [V] China, Nat Geo HD etc . Since yesterday ..... to pacify or make subscribers forgot abt the dropped chs in due time, they decided to offer "free preview" - sneaky


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Well, that's rare.

haha fui yoh wow unexpected

astro need to do something , i find it boring nowdays

ASTRO & NJOI SUBSCRIBERS WILL BE GIVEN FREE ACCESS TO ALL KOREAN CHANNELS - KBS WORLD & HD (391, 392), ONE HD (393), OH!K (394) AND TVN HD (395) FROM JULY 1 TO AUGUST 31. MEANINGLESS FOR PEOPLE WHO ALREADY SUBSCRIBE TO BASIC HD + KOREAN PACK.

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Astro is only give Korean Pack (Oh!k HD & TVN HD) for all NJOI user to preview starting 1 July to 31 August and KBS World is not available to preview for all NJOI user because KBS World is under by NJOI Prepaid channel.

Ok. At least for you and all NJOI viewers can watch 2 Korean channels for free for 2 months.

When you used all capital letters here, I do understand and felt your "anger" when Ass-throw give 2 months free preview of Korean channels. I think you felt not fair to people who already have subscribed to Korean pack. I suspect (may not be true) that maybe Ass-throw don't have enough people to sign up for the Korean pack so they try to attract more people to take it by giving out free "meals for 2 persons". I don't know about others but Ass-throw will NEVER get a single cent extra from me, hehehe.

For me only, its meaningless for Ass-throw to give me free many months more because I don't watch Korean channels.

Economy is bad in Malaysia so I think that Ass-throw is feeling the effects even though they have monopoly. Only my guess.

korean channels attract malay customers so NJOI is used to get more addicted and perhaps sign up for add on

I think ASTRO will introduce KOREAN PACK as prepaid package on NJOI platform. No free stuff lasts forever. The free preview is meant to attract NJOI customers to buy the Korean Pack later on. It's marketing strategy.

I have many chinese friends who does actually watch Korean dramas especially those on love and family stories. I even have a teenage niece who often watch korean series online at various websites. I think one of the reasons why Ass-throw also show Korean drama series on Wah Lai Toi channel 310 is because of the increasing popularity from the chinese. Even the dialogue have been dubbed in Cantonese.

So I think Ass-throw want to attract malay and chinese viewers. I don't know about the Indians so probably any Indian here should be able to answer this better.

haha indian only watch tamil channels lorh

yes
we indian got no choice...

have to pay hefty price watch indian show on astro

even hypptv never treat indian fair. they more promote hindi movie like shahruck khan
they give indian channel polimer free but only show old indian movies ...real ba******. movies older or before you were born! F them

so we no choice... only astro suck our money