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post Jun 8 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 8 2016, 06:21 PM)
take AOD for example, the particular TVB episode actually arrived in our shore way earlier than its scheduled premiere date in both HK and Malaysia. For eg if Monday night is premiere for Ep1, then maybe on Sunday night Astro might already received the show from TVB under certain arrangement. Then, using that 1 day window period, they have ample time to do censorship and post-processing, you need to know that AOD existed way earlier than TVB Jade set foot here, so before this we didn't have the chance to witness the discrepancies as there's no occurrence of the same content appearing on different channels. The nature of the "live monitoring team" is that, hmm.. they tend to assume a lot.. means that they ll pay lesser attention to chinese contents compare to Fox Movies, because no matter how liberal HK is, it is still not possible to broadcast foul language and nudity in TVB
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I know. I have already guessed much earlier that the videos for AOD had already been pre-recorded or delivered to Ass-throw earlier to allow for ample time for censorship to scissors to cut off such scenes so that is why that "kissing scene" was censored in AOD channels. I do agree about this aspect even before you noted this to me now. Lets push this point out of the way.

Please correct me if I misunderstood you. Basically, you are pointing to these 2 points...

1) TVB Jade HD is a live feed from Hong Kong and the delay time given may not be enough for the Ass-throw staff in the control room to cut it off.

2) The monitoring of channels with "Live" feeds is more "relaxed" and more "casual" for Chinese channels compared to English Channels and because of this, things like this "escaped" the scissors.

By explaining it in this way, well... I can digest it and not worried about getting myself poisoned, hehehe.

I did mention earlier about the more liberal censorship in Hong Kong but I stated this as a simple comparison to Malaysia and probably Singapore too. I did not say anything that Hong Kong is very liberal to include allowing foul language and nudity. As I have stated earlier, the gauge of what is acceptable are different for each country but I do know that there will also be various criteria that each country do have in common, such nudity and sex, foul and obscene language, extreme gore and violence, themes that promote banned drugs such as opium.

I did not say that Hong Kong is very liberal that they can accept foul language and nudity. Just like in any country, its my believe that Hong Kong have different liberal acceptance compared to Malaysia when it steps on things, let me put it this way... that is "debatable" such as 2 guys kissing, stories and themes on gays, homosexuality and various aspects of political liberties. So, some things that may seem harmless to me may be cut off in Malaysia but not in Hong Kong. Conversely, some things is even banned (not censored) in Thailand but allowed in Malaysia. No need to censor the movie "The King And I" in Thailand because it is totally banned there BUT allowed to be shown in Malaysia. Mmm... I remembered watching this movie in Ass-throw many years ago in (I think) Star Movies channel which also display "Not available in Thailand" message in their short trailer before that movie was due for showing.

Ok... your explanation is well put and I can accept it eventhough I do have some lingering doubts on why that scene of 2 guys kissing was not cut off in TVB Jade HD even when repeatedly shown a few times in 24 hours.

Oh... the Hong Kong movie "Anna and the King" starring Chow Yun-Fat was also banned in Thailand. Its also based on the similar story of "The King And I".

Edit : Spelt "misunderstood" wrongly. And wrong phrase. Corrected... hehehe.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jun 8 2016, 07:55 PM
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post Jun 8 2016, 07:40 PM

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Hahahaha interesting technical information on censoring tv operations here laugh.gif at least got something new i have learned today rclxms.gif
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post Jun 8 2016, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 8 2016, 07:40 PM)
Hahahaha interesting technical information on censoring tv operations here laugh.gif at least got something new i have learned today rclxms.gif
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Hehehehe.... as long as you are not confused or blur blur like me AND my confusion did not infect you, then I am glad that you have gotten something from my own confusion. Phew! I felt so much more relieved now.
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post Jun 8 2016, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 8 2016, 08:03 PM)
Hehehehe.... as long as you are not confused or blur blur like me AND my confusion did not infect you, then I am glad that you have gotten something from my own confusion. Phew! I felt so much more relieved now.
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bro,, i had visited their broadcast facilities at least 3 times, including the recording room, master control room, "live censor" room, etc, i knew the playout flow but couldn't recall all the details though .. tongue.gif
oh, and even the radio departments, been there before icon_rolleyes.gif





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post Jun 8 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 8 2016, 07:40 PM)
Hahahaha interesting technical information on censoring tv operations here laugh.gif at least got something new i have learned today rclxms.gif
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That applies to the rest channels that has delays, though. News channels? Better read online instead. laugh.gif
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post Jun 8 2016, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 8 2016, 10:30 PM)
bro,, i had visited their broadcast facilities at least 3 times, including the recording room, master control room, "live censor" room, etc, i knew the playout flow but couldn't recall all the details though .. tongue.gif
oh, and even the radio departments, been there before  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Oh, BIG BIG Bro... seems to me your reply here sounded as though I threw some doubts about your explanation to me. I did not mean to "imply" my doubts on your explanation because it is NOT. Please correct me if I have again misunderstood you.

I believed you, if that's what you want from me. I was only saying that I am confused and no where was there in those comments about my confusion that said I did not believe you. And I did not request you for any proof too so please relax a bit and its not necessary for you to mention that you have been to their facilities. Because you quoted this sentence from me, I am soooo very sorry if the reply of my "confused" state of mind may have triggered such a reaction from you. My mistake for not being clear to you.

Its my fault. I did not mean anything hidden in my reply to skylinelover because it was just written as my joke to him only. Honestly, I was not making fun of you. I really did not realise that my reply to skylinelover was viewed by you as indirectly doubting what you said or poking fun at you. If you felt that way, then I apologize to you for causing any such misunderstanding.

Yes, you have and you did go to their facilities and its great that you have shared your knowledge and clarified my queries. Appreciated it. I hope my explanation here is enough. Yes, you did not ask anything from me but IF you want any more statements from me in this regard to clear things up, then please do let me know. I will be happy to oblige.
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post Jun 8 2016, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 8 2016, 11:00 PM)
That applies to the rest channels that has delays, though. News channels? Better read online instead. laugh.gif
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First, read the news online. If have the time, then view the news channel and make comparisons on what was "left" out... Then and only then... start screaming out loud like a mad person and declare WAR !!! bruce.gif ... then people start pouring cold water and the fire inside is snuffed out. Hehehehe.
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Went to astro today to upgrade our beyond decoder to pvr decoder. Coz my family wanna record some series and programmes. -we only subscribed the cheap package one, rm90 per month.

The cs told me, in order to install the new pvr, our house must have at least 4Mbps internet connection (streamyx /unifi) to do the 1st set-up for the pvr. Which we dont have.
She asked if my phone can get 4Mbps, so that we can use wifi hotspot from my phone. Nahhh, internet connection at my house is really sucks. Most of the time only 3g. Cannot achieve 4Mbps.

So, we cannot upgrade our beyond decoder to pvr decoder as we dont have 4Mbps internet connection to do the set-up for pvr decoder. Sighhh.

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QUOTE(z800r @ Jun 9 2016, 12:15 AM)
Went to astro today to upgrade our beyond decoder to pvr decoder. Coz my family wanna record some series and programmes. -we only subscribed the cheap package one, rm90 per month.

The cs told me, in order to install the new pvr, our house must have at least 4Mbps internet connection (streamyx /unifi) to do the 1st set-up for the pvr. Which we dont have.
She asked if my phone can get 4Mbps, so that we can use wifi hotspot from my phone. Nahhh, internet connection at my house is really sucks. Most of the time only 3g. Cannot achieve 4Mbps.

So, we cannot upgrade our beyond decoder to pvr decoder as we dont have 4Mbps internet connection to do the set-up for pvr decoder. Sighhh.
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Since when to record needs internet? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(razuryza @ Jun 9 2016, 12:21 AM)
Since when to record needs internet?  hmm.gif
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Not to record. But just to set-up the pvr box during installation, that one need 4Mbps internet connection. Only for installation, after that can just use the pvr decoder without internet.
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post Jun 9 2016, 06:10 AM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 8 2016, 10:30 PM)
bro,, i had visited their broadcast facilities at least 3 times, including the recording room, master control room, "live censor" room, etc, i knew the playout flow but couldn't recall all the details though .. tongue.gif
oh, and even the radio departments, been there before  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 8 2016, 11:05 PM)
Oh, BIG BIG Bro... seems to me your reply here sounded as though I threw some doubts about your explanation to me. I did not mean to "imply" my doubts on your explanation because it is NOT. Please correct me if I have again misunderstood you.

I believed you, if that's what you want from me. I was only saying that I am confused and no where was there in those comments about my confusion that said I did not believe you. And I did not request you for any proof too so please relax a bit and its not necessary for you to mention that you have been to their facilities. Because you quoted this sentence from me, I am soooo very sorry if the reply of my "confused" state of mind may have triggered such a reaction from you. My mistake for not being clear to you.

Its my fault. I did not mean anything hidden in my reply to skylinelover because it was just written as my joke to him only. Honestly, I was not making fun of you. I really did not realise that my reply to skylinelover was viewed by you as indirectly doubting what you said or poking fun at you. If you felt that way, then I apologize to you for causing any such misunderstanding.

Yes, you have and you did go to their facilities and its great that you have shared your knowledge and clarified my queries. Appreciated it. I hope my explanation here is enough. Yes, you did not ask anything from me but IF you want any more statements from me in this regard to clear things up, then please do let me know. I will be happy to oblige.
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haha yeah mang just a joke chill lor wey laugh.gif cheers.gif
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post Jun 9 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 8 2016, 11:05 PM)
Oh, BIG BIG Bro... seems to me your reply here sounded as though I threw some doubts about your explanation to me. I did not mean to "imply" my doubts on your explanation because it is NOT. Please correct me if I have again misunderstood you.

I believed you, if that's what you want from me. I was only saying that I am confused and no where was there in those comments about my confusion that said I did not believe you. And I did not request you for any proof too so please relax a bit and its not necessary for you to mention that you have been to their facilities. Because you quoted this sentence from me, I am soooo very sorry if the reply of my "confused" state of mind may have triggered such a reaction from you. My mistake for not being clear to you.

Its my fault. I did not mean anything hidden in my reply to skylinelover because it was just written as my joke to him only. Honestly, I was not making fun of you. I really did not realise that my reply to skylinelover was viewed by you as indirectly doubting what you said or poking fun at you. If you felt that way, then I apologize to you for causing any such misunderstanding.

Yes, you have and you did go to their facilities and its great that you have shared your knowledge and clarified my queries. Appreciated it. I hope my explanation here is enough. Yes, you did not ask anything from me but IF you want any more statements from me in this regard to clear things up, then please do let me know. I will be happy to oblige.
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do u really have to be so serious? laugh.gif

no offence taken at all from the beginning

just sharing what i know..

fyi, for the interns or new staffs, despite what your department is, or even the job interviewees will get the chance to go inside their facilities to have a quick tour, and that's when these kind of questions will be answered
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post Jun 9 2016, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(PhakFuhZai @ Jun 9 2016, 10:36 AM)
do u really have to be so serious? laugh.gif

no offence taken at all from the beginning

just sharing what i know..

fyi, for the interns or new staffs, despite what your department is, or even the job interviewees will get the chance to go inside their facilities to have a quick tour, and that's when these kind of questions will be answered
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Funny, I thought the same thing about you when you replied to my joke to skylinelover, and which caused my answer. Because of this, I had to quickly apologize before it becomes more serious. I was also not quite sure so, in my reply, I asked you to correct me if I was wrong.

Anyway, both our throats are cleared. smile.gif I will now join skylinelover for a round of beer. You are always welcome to join both of us. Hehehe.

This post has been edited by jamesleetech: Jun 9 2016, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 9 2016, 12:17 PM)
Funny, I thought the same thing about you when you replied to my joke to skylinelover, and which caused my answer. Because of this, I had to quickly apologize before it becomes more serious. I was also not quite sure so, in my reply, I asked you to correct me if I was wrong.

Anyway, both our throats are cleared. smile.gif  I will now join skylinelover for a round of beer. You are always welcome to join both of us. Hehehe.
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Hahahaha lai lai lai kampai cheers.gif

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post Jun 9 2016, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 9 2016, 12:53 PM)
Hahahaha lai lai lai kampai cheers.gif
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Cheers! Kanpai! Gān Bēi ! Yam Seng! cheers.gif thumbsup.gif I am already blur blur now. rclxub.gif
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TVB Blue Veins Episode 23

Here are screenshots of what was censored from AOD HD Channel 350.

Shown in Ass-throw TVB Jade HD Channel 326...

* The guy thought that the girl was about to kiss the man and got jealous.
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* Then he ran towards that man, pulled him away and jumped on him to kiss him because he doesn't want his "girlfriend" to be kissed.
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* After the kiss, the girl pulled him away and he realized that she was NOT the girl that he had fallen in love.
This entire scene from jumping on the man and kissing was shown in TVB Jade Ch.326 but was completely cut off in AOD HD Ch.350.
Attached Image

* His "girlfriend" was actually sitting nearby at another table.

I am merely showing what was censored, NOT saying anything else (such as whether it should be censored or not. Also not to show how, why or any reason for cutting it.)

My thanks to my friend who obtained these screenshots.

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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 9 2016, 08:06 PM)
TVB Blue Veins Episode 23

Here are screenshots of what was censored from AOD HD Channel 350.

Shown in Ass-throw TVB Jade HD Channel 326...

* The guy thought that the girl was about to kiss the man and got jealous.
Attached Image

* Then he ran towards that man, pulled him away and jumped on him to kiss him because he doesn't want his "girlfriend" to be kissed.
Attached Image

* After the kiss, the girl pulled him away and he realized that she was NOT the girl that he had fallen in love.
This entire scene from jumping on the man and kissing was shown in TVB Jade Ch.326 but was completely cut off in AOD HD Ch.350.
Attached Image

* His "girlfriend" was actually sitting nearby at another table.

I am merely showing what was censored, NOT saying anything else (such as whether it should be censored or not. Also not to show how, why or any reason for cutting it.)

My thanks to my friend who obtained these screenshots.
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haha so that means cut AOD and buy TVB jade better laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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post Jun 9 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jun 9 2016, 08:48 PM)
haha so that means cut AOD and buy TVB jade better laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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AOD in Dynasty Pack only available in the expensive SuperPack 3.

Once I downgrade from SuperPack 3 to the cheaper Wah Pack, Dynasty Pack NOT available to choose.

All the 5 cheaper Value Packs don't have Dynasty Pack to choose. Only Jade Pack is an option to choose for the 5 Value Packs.

Only SuperPack 3 got Dynasty Pack (AOD channels) and have option to add in Jade Pack.

Options...
1) If I pick Wah Value Pack RM 84.80 + Jade Pack RM 53.00 = RM 137.80
2) If I pick SuperPack 3 (with Dynasty Pack bundled) = RM 164.30

If I take SuperPack 3, definitely I will not take Jade Pack.

But if I take Wah Pack and want the same TVB dramas as AOD, then I must take Jade Pack which costs me RM 137.80

To change from SuperPack 3 to Wah+Jade Packs, I save ONLY RM 26.50 BUT the problem with it is that I lose 21 SD+HD Channels because of the change.

SO you see, I believe Ass-throw pay big fat incomes to extremely talented professionals who can calculate until every single miserable Ringgit is squeezed out from subscribers. Unfortunately, I believe there are also many very wealthy rich people and probably with their "spoilt kids" who will eagerly pay pay pay... no problem if Ass-throw suck them because they have huge gold mountain to supply Ass-throw. Oops... I may offend rich folks here so my apologies if I have offended any of the rich folks... I still need my very wealthy boss to pay me my salary.

If I try to be smart in picking Packs that have channels that don't have programs that repeats in different channels... I will NEVER find any advantage no matter how I pick and choose.

To get Jade Pack, throw away AOD... I have to lose 21 channels with Wah+Jade Packs and only pay less RM 26.50

To get SuperPack, throw away Jade Pack... I have to pay RM 164.30 to get the additional 21 channels.

You said... "Cut AOD and buy Jade Pack"? So easily said than done. doh.gif

Pusing kiri ada gaung, pusing kanan ada gunung berapi. Lebih baik berdiri tegak dan tunggu mati daripada letupan gunung berapi!
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QUOTE(jamesleetech @ Jun 9 2016, 10:37 PM)

Pusing kiri ada gaung, pusing kanan ada gunung berapi. Lebih baik berdiri tegak dan tunggu mati daripada letupan gunung berapi!
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Where's the savior? "Tulang ikan"? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Qash-M @ Jun 10 2016, 12:47 AM)
Where's the savior? "Tulang ikan"? laugh.gif
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Hehehehe... "Ikan Duyung" is the savior. From the river below the gorge, a beautiful mermaid jumped up very high with super-strength, caught me and pulled me down where a group of ikan duyung held a large fishnet to catch both of us. unsure.gif

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