There are indeed many people who supports NJOI and "maybe" want the Ass-throw monopoly to continue because of the "fear" that NJOI may die if competition is allowed. I can understand the NJOI support, who doesn't? When one can just pay a few hundred RM and can watch channels for free without subscription, of course many will support it!

I don't know just how many of the NJOI supporters know that their support do indirectly help Ass-throw to become a stronger force in the advertising market by attracting larger and growing viewership. This kind of situation is BAD and NOT healthy because Ass-throw is also competing in the Free-To-Air TV market when it already have monopoly in the Satellite TV market. As I had mentioned in my previous comments about the 2 GoShop channels that are broadcasted 24 hours, Ass-throw has the "superior advantage" because of the 24 hours non-shop use of the air-waves which other such competitors just cannot do so. I believe that all of us should spend more time to watch channels from TV3, NTV7 and TV9 using terrestrial instead of NJOI channels BUT I believe that this will not ever happen because of the "number" of free channels available for "free" (except for paying for the equipment).

Ya, I do know that I am living in Bolehland so I expect many may tell me to ACCEPT it! Yes, I really have to accept it BUT that does mean that I cannot express this out here. I may be wrong but I expect that there may be people here who will point out the fact that TV3, NTV7, TV9 also enjoys the same level of viewership because they are also in NJOI. So true, so true BUT don't forget about the 2 GoShop channels that are 24 hours AND all the other 25 TV channels with a few in HD AND 20 Radio channels (also 24 hours) which give a very huge unfair advantage to Ass-throw!

I do agree if anyone here tells me that its useless to boycott NJOI and its useless to hope for NJOI to die. What you have shown to us here explains that Ass-throw's revenue from GoShop have increased when TV subscriptions dropped. Eventhough the Bank's research cannot be used as a yardstick for the real figures that only Ass-throw have, I do believe that you have informed us here something about Ass-throw's current situation.

I know that I repeated it so many times, that I know its useless to change things because all the Malaysian consumers do NOT cooperate together in huge enough numbers to make the changes. Yes, I can't change that so why do I still continue to express my views here?

I see no reason any more for me to just complain or protest against Ass-throw as its useless. What I do hope can happen is that more people can come out to create more AWARENESS so that people who don't see clearly, are able to understand the outcome of their actions... and therefore, can make a much better informed decision.

I applaud you for posting the information and also applaud to everyone here for also posting similar information about Ass-throw. I view people who posted negative information as creating more awareness and I do NOT treat them as complains (or maybe protests). Expressing negative views and opinions, not posting information, do reflect as complains in my opinion.

I have stated in my earlier posts about GoShop giving Ass-throw an unfair advantage on the same cake enjoyed by other Free-To-Air TV. What you have posted are information that are so relevant, and shows what GoShop have done in the advertising market. So... be AWARE on who we are actually helping when we support NJOI. Is it TV3, NTV 7 and TV9 that benefit when they pay for relay transmission in NJOI or is it Ass-throw the actual one who benefitted more from the Advertising Market? I don't know about others BUT when I totally terminate Ass-throw, I will NOT even pay the few hundred miserable ringgit for the NJOI decoder/dish/installation eventhough I can afford it. I will just use the traditional TV aerial, online internet services, Netflix and iFlix streaming or whatever for my regular dose of entertainment and information needs.

With the continued weakening of the Ringgit, many businesses are indeed suffering due to the uncertainty and fluctuation of our currency. Correct me if I am wrong, at one time this year, our RM achieved the weakest value at RM 4.22 to USD 1.00, went up to the strongest RM 3.92 and now its weakening to RM 4.15 and seems to go weaker and weaker as the day passes by. But... I am not surprised if I am told with facts that Ass-throw still makes more profits even with the current sluggish market. And Ass-throw can still have the ability to purchase a TV station in Australis for 75% stakes!!

If consumers want to change things, its actually very simple, really, ... just stop watching and move away and the beauty is that it costs nothing to do it. Its not a life and death situation, its not a very serious need... its just our thirst for entertainment, education and information. With lesser and lesser viewers, more and more advertisers will move away from Ass-throw and shift the advertising income needed by TV3, NTV7 and TV9. As the NJOI viewership increases, more and more damage is being done that may seriously cause damage to competition in the Free-To-Air TV and Radio Channels and which MAY make Ass-throw to also become the big BOSS in the Free-To-Air TV/Radio markets too. As hard as it is for me to swallow, NJOI can only continue to grow and get stronger and stronger. There's nothing I can do about it. What I can only do... is just requesting people who are about to register NJOI to think about what such actions can do to Free-To-Air TV competition... and to those who are already "enjoying" NJOI, to just think about what such action can continue to have on Free-To-Air TV competition.

Already subscribed to Netflix... though cannot be compared to Ass-throw in many ways, at least its something for me when I eventually drop Ass-throw. Eventhough it is wrong and do harm the economy, I think many of us already know why illegal piracy will continue to increase, especially from the internet. Anyone may disagree with me... I think Netflix opening its doors internationally including Malaysia is the right direction in fighting piracy as it opens up more choices for people to legally obtain entertainment. Whether Netflix is bad for Malaysians or not, whether its subscription is cheap or not, whether its content are value for money or not... are issues that are not related to fighting piracy.

Slept very late watching a bluray movie and woke up very late... took my sweet time before checking here. Sunday mah.

Wow... interesting and lively discussion since early morning today. Good, very good and there's one thing that most have shown here... are the machine gun bullets fired at the Monopoly, at Ass-throw, at the government and so forth but evidently most are BAD. I have been told to accept it since we are in Bolehland. Yes, can I accept it and still bark (complain) at a mountain that will always be there. Can all of you accept it and still continue to bark? I don't have to answer, as is shown by the comments by many folks here!

KU BAND AND RAIN FADE : LARGER DISH, A VIABLE BUT NOT PERFECT SOLUTION

Yes, you are definitely right to point out that Ass-throw dish uses size 65 cm to be exact. I did not check the facts properly and appreciated it.

I applaud your detailed explanation of the KU band, C band and other technical mumbo jumbo. The one thing that you have shown to me is that you could be an expert in Satellite Telecommunications or at least very knowledgeable in this field. I acknowledge that. As for me, I know too little on this field and so, I wouldn't dare say that I know more than the average person. What I can say is that my knowledge has the help of everyone's good friend... the World Wide Web of "Google Search".

By the way, when you said that common Pay TV nowadays uses 65cm dish, where did you find this out? I am confused because various dish sizes are used. You could be right. I am not sure here.


As I read over your reply analyzing what you are trying to point out, it seems to me (I think) that you could be moving away from the actual direction that my previous reply intended to... and that is RAIN FADE and a quick and viable solution.

Yes, you have correctly mentioned some detailed explanation of why KU band is chosen over C band for commercial TV transmission, of how higher frequency can better penetrate the weather conditions to reach our dish, of why KU band is chosen as it provides less interference because of the higher frequency. Great and informative reading. Thanks.

However, you should look at it in the perspective of the common factor of the existing infrastructure used by Ass-throw on the issue of "RAIN FADE" which was noted as one of the reason why the person fully terminated subscription. And that common factor is the KU Band and the 65cm Dish used by Ass-throw.

If you read carefully on my previous comments on using a larger dish, it is my intention to state an alternative solution to the Rain Fade issue eventhough it is not possible because of the "law" that do not permit home use of the large dish.

Of course, there are other alternatives (as commented by folks here) to solve the Rain Fade issue, but many of those involve a much more arduous and hugely difficult to achieve remedies. Cable TV needs a good and solid nationwide internet cable infrastructure in place that can provide a fast and adequate speed to handle TV transmission especially HD BUT are we actually there yet? Even if cabling is ready or possible nationwide, there is also the issue of the huge capital investment to setup the Cable TV network itself. Then there is the alternative Terrestrial TV transmission using existing infrastructure that needs to be upgraded to broadcast HD and Dolby 5.1 audio but, again... are we able to do it now? I have heard for so many years of changing the Terrestrial TV broadcast from analog to digital which will release the analog spectrum for other uses. Am I right to say that TV3 will be changing over to Digital HD transmission next year? After all the years of dragged on delays, you cannot blame people for not believing it. Then again, such terrestrial transmission just cannot rival the nationwide coverage that Satellite TV enjoys.

As most (I think ALL) of you know, a very good alternative is to abolish Satellite TV monopoly enjoyed by Ass-throw. You may think why more Satellite TV broadcasters which uses the same KU band can help solve the rain fade issue... hehe... not actually solve it. When we have much more better channels with good contents at a reasonably low subscription rates then I would think many more people will be able to tolerate the "rain fade" better and many like me will be contented, keep our mouth shut when we can watch "free" Satellite channels similar to NJOI.

I wish to categorically state that I can be wrong here. After I have weighed over all the options to see which is the best and has the least time to at least address the Rain Fade issue. Its changing the 65cm Dish to a larger sized one which is of course not affordable for many people. For people who can afford it, at least a ready solution to reduce the rain fade is already available right now. Just look at the many large dish mushrooming in Bangkok, Thailand and Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei.

Before you or anyone here immediately jump in eagerly pointing out any of my mistakes here, again I declare that I am NOT an expert here... So here are a few questions that I wish to ask you or anyone here...

1) Are there any other dish sizes besides the 65 cm used by Ass-throw such as the 75cm or 90cm type or as large as 3metres? Yes, all of us including me, know the answer to this BUT this points to my second question.

2) I don't care why KU Band is used and not C Band. I don't care about the reasons why one is preferred over the other. The question here is... can we use a much larger dish for KU Band reception?



3) Is it true that KU Band reception requires just a compatible LNB (Low-Block-Noise) and Receiver/Decoder Box ?

4) Just by changing to a compatible LNB and Receiver, are we limited to only 65cm dish size for KU BAND RECEPTION?

5) Are we supposed to or can we use at least 2 LNB's on a LARGE Dish, one for KU Band and the other for C Band?

6) I think using a bigger sized Dish may NOT improve the clarity and sharpness of the KU Band reception BUT will a much larger sized Dish help in any way to address the Rain Fade Issue by improving the signal gain due to a larger parabolic dish surface-to-signal contact area?

You are absolutely right in your detailed technical explanations about KU Band and C Band and all the other explanations including the affordability of large dish.

The point is NOT one of, which and why, this or that, is preferred or used and NOT whether there are other long term alternatives to address the "Rain Fade" issue.

I already do know about the KU Band and C Band and the various types of LNB and receivers used including the motorized Dish units... And I even know about the "ah-hem" (Dream***) Satellite Receivers which used the same Ass-throw Satellite Dish AND an internet connection to "break" (descramble) the encrypted Ass-throw signal in order to view the channels illegally (SD only). Don't know whether it works now. I do know about other things related to Satellite technology because "Google Is My Best Friend" and... yes, I repeat that I am NOT an expert.

I do acknowledge that you may know more than me and may even be an expert in the field of Satellite Techonology. However, it is totally unnecessary for you to explain it out to me those technical mumbo jumbo because my actual point is... In order to address the Rain Fade issue, there is no faster or better alternative option available other than just changing to a larger sized dish. The obstacles to using a large dish is the costly price, difficult to set and use, and the govt strict restriction of the large dish for home use. If you compare such obstacles to the other options to address the Rain Fade issue, using a large dish is at least better than the HUGE obstacles that the other option have to overcome which will undoubtedly take a long time. All it needs is our govt to stop the large dish restriction by carefully allowing selected KU Band systems (LNB, Receiver And Much Larger Dish Sizes) which gives the least amount of interference to existing commercial telecommunications. Initially, large dish can be expensive which is beyond the reach of many but competition can bring the cost down. There are poor people in Thailand too but that doesn't stop the many large satellite dish from appearing there.

Why didn't Ass-throw use a slightly larger than 65cm dish? I don't need to answer that. Many here will answer for me. I "believe" that even a slightly larger dish size of 90cm can further help to reduce the rain fade issue. I know all the @%$@# reasons why this is not allowed. I believe/think using a slightly larger 90cm dish size or similar should be the best option to reduce rain fade because all it needs is just the govt approval and a dish cost that more people can still afford.

I could be wrong, I sensed a trickle amount of you trying to be cheesy with me when you put this question to me... quote... "Now after reading this, what do you think about Astro in terms of rain fade issue"

I loved it and do enjoy it when someone does that to me. I don't need to answer your question because I don't need to think about Ass-throw on the rain fade issue. Since many other similar Satellite Broadcasters also used the same DTH system which have the same rain fade issue, all I need to think about is, can we use a larger dish for KU band reception and what are the issues, advantages and disadvantages of using such large dish?

Ok... I end this with my question to you... Knowing that the rain fade issue will always be there, knowing that subscriptions are really overpriced, knowing that contents have an incredible amount of repeats with advertisement/commercials, knowing that there is a possibility that monopoly will continue after 2017... will you sign in or continue to subscribe to Ass-throw when you DO know that you MUST accept it because its Bolehland. Hehe... no offence yah? My apologies to you if I have. I loved a lively (maybe heated) discussions where nobody is perfect and can make mistakes.

Note : Edited to correct spelling and typo errors.

But still delayed by 5min.

There are indeed many people who supports NJOI and "maybe" want the Ass-throw monopoly to continue because of the "fear" that NJOI may die if competition is allowed. I can understand the NJOI support, who doesn't? When one can just pay a few hundred RM and can watch channels for free without subscription, of course many will support it!

I don't know just how many of the NJOI supporters know that their support do indirectly help Ass-throw to become a stronger force in the advertising market by attracting larger and growing viewership. This kind of situation is BAD and NOT healthy because Ass-throw is also competing in the Free-To-Air TV market when it already have monopoly in the Satellite TV market. As I had mentioned in my previous comments about the 2 GoShop channels that are broadcasted 24 hours, Ass-throw has the "superior advantage" because of the 24 hours non-shop use of the air-waves which other such competitors just cannot do so. I believe that all of us should spend more time to watch channels from TV3, NTV7 and TV9 using terrestrial instead of NJOI channels BUT I believe that this will not ever happen because of the "number" of free channels available for "free" (except for paying for the equipment).

Ya, I do know that I am living in Bolehland so I expect many may tell me to ACCEPT it! Yes, I really have to accept it BUT that does mean that I cannot express this out here. I may be wrong but I expect that there may be people here who will point out the fact that TV3, NTV7, TV9 also enjoys the same level of viewership because they are also in NJOI. So true, so true BUT don't forget about the 2 GoShop channels that are 24 hours AND all the other 25 TV channels with a few in HD AND 20 Radio channels (also 24 hours) which give a very huge unfair advantage to Ass-throw!

I do agree if anyone here tells me that its useless to boycott NJOI and its useless to hope for NJOI to die. What you have shown to us here explains that Ass-throw's revenue from GoShop have increased when TV subscriptions dropped. Eventhough the Bank's research cannot be used as a yardstick for the real figures that only Ass-throw have, I do believe that you have informed us here something about Ass-throw's current situation.

I know that I repeated it so many times, that I know its useless to change things because all the Malaysian consumers do NOT cooperate together in huge enough numbers to make the changes. Yes, I can't change that so why do I still continue to express my views here?

I see no reason any more for me to just complain or protest against Ass-throw as its useless. What I do hope can happen is that more people can come out to create more AWARENESS so that people who don't see clearly, are able to understand the outcome of their actions... and therefore, can make a much better informed decision.

I applaud you for posting the information and also applaud to everyone here for also posting similar information about Ass-throw. I view people who posted negative information as creating more awareness and I do NOT treat them as complains (or maybe protests). Expressing negative views and opinions, not posting information, do reflect as complains in my opinion.

I have stated in my earlier posts about GoShop giving Ass-throw an unfair advantage on the same cake enjoyed by other Free-To-Air TV. What you have posted are information that are so relevant, and shows what GoShop have done in the advertising market. So... be AWARE on who we are actually helping when we support NJOI. Is it TV3, NTV 7 and TV9 that benefit when they pay for relay transmission in NJOI or is it Ass-throw the actual one who benefitted more from the Advertising Market? I don't know about others BUT when I totally terminate Ass-throw, I will NOT even pay the few hundred miserable ringgit for the NJOI decoder/dish/installation eventhough I can afford it. I will just use the traditional TV aerial, online internet services, Netflix and iFlix streaming or whatever for my regular dose of entertainment and information needs.

With the continued weakening of the Ringgit, many businesses are indeed suffering due to the uncertainty and fluctuation of our currency. Correct me if I am wrong, at one time this year, our RM achieved the weakest value at RM 4.22 to USD 1.00, went up to the strongest RM 3.92 and now its weakening to RM 4.15 and seems to go weaker and weaker as the day passes by. But... I am not surprised if I am told with facts that Ass-throw still makes more profits even with the current sluggish market. And Ass-throw can still have the ability to purchase a TV station in Australis for 75% stakes!!

If consumers want to change things, its actually very simple, really, ... just stop watching and move away and the beauty is that it costs nothing to do it. Its not a life and death situation, its not a very serious need... its just our thirst for entertainment, education and information. With lesser and lesser viewers, more and more advertisers will move away from Ass-throw and shift the advertising income needed by TV3, NTV7 and TV9. As the NJOI viewership increases, more and more damage is being done that may seriously cause damage to competition in the Free-To-Air TV and Radio Channels and which MAY make Ass-throw to also become the big BOSS in the Free-To-Air TV/Radio markets too. As hard as it is for me to swallow, NJOI can only continue to grow and get stronger and stronger. There's nothing I can do about it. What I can only do... is just requesting people who are about to register NJOI to think about what such actions can do to Free-To-Air TV competition... and to those who are already "enjoying" NJOI, to just think about what such action can continue to have on Free-To-Air TV competition.

Already subscribed to Netflix... though cannot be compared to Ass-throw in many ways, at least its something for me when I eventually drop Ass-throw. Eventhough it is wrong and do harm the economy, I think many of us already know why illegal piracy will continue to increase, especially from the internet. Anyone may disagree with me... I think Netflix opening its doors internationally including Malaysia is the right direction in fighting piracy as it opens up more choices for people to legally obtain entertainment. Whether Netflix is bad for Malaysians or not, whether its subscription is cheap or not, whether its content are value for money or not... are issues that are not related to fighting piracy.

Dont you think few years back, Media Prima was also a monopoly in FTA airwaves? Not to mention Media Prima is an UMNO propaganda warmachine.

In terms of news neutrality, Astro is better than all rtm, Bernama, Media Prima combined. Supporting Media Prima is akin supporting Jibby collecting 2.6billion for nation building. Astro at least is more of Mahathir's crony than Media Prima full ownership by UMNO.

Lets accept the fact that in Malaysia nothing is clean and transparent. Like many ppl go Genting to gamble, go Toto buy numbers, they re in turn help making Uncle Lim and Vincent Tan richer, which in turn more donations towards BN. See?

Like it or not, everything about Malaysia including Pay TV, FTA TV channels, and even Internet are all related to our very good government and politics. Too much cronies until you feel sick to even think about protesting or boycotting anyone.

The only solution is to vote the right party during general election, and nothing else.
Even if you complain to MCMC, it doesn't means it will be resolved. Always remember that.

Vote BN out,No way! People who fall for cash handouts and lately free burgers and Milo are more then those who wish to vote for change

Like it or not, everything about Malaysia including Pay TV, FTA TV channels, and even Internet are all related to our very good government and politics. Too much cronies until you feel sick to even think about protesting or boycotting anyone.

The only solution is to vote the right party during general election, and nothing else.
Even if you complain to MCMC, it doesn't means it will be resolved. Always remember that.

Vote BN out,No way! People who fall for cash handouts and lately free burgers and Milo are more then those who wish to vote for change

Didi n friends pun nk d buat saluran kat astro first pdhal bole je kalau letak kat astro ceria dok ulang2 lah smp muak.ni nk gak wat kat astro 1st.xmustahil nnt bkak plak astro 1st utk af..kilauan emas..imam muda..ceria pop star.nk tgk kna lggn astro 1st utk 48hrs.hampeh la astro.

My contract is over so I don't have to pay the penalty. I think I need to check with them before the expiry of the termination notice to check on the status. Did they really suspend instead of terminate your account?

Even if you use 90cm dish and above, it has signal improvements over 65cm but rain fade issue will still exist. It only mitigate a little bit, not eliminate the problem. Unless if you really got the money and space, you can use the satellite dish that Astro use in their headquarters, which the dish size is like 250cm-300cm (8-10 feet and above). Then you won't likely to experience rain fade issue anymore. But seriously, even Malaysia gov allows the people to do that, will you do it? Most people will think that it is not worth it, and it is better that you receive C band channels instead of Ku band pay TV channels. But if you receive C band and Ku band together in one big dish, then it's worth it.

You can use big dish for receiving Ku band signals, but your LNB needs to change to the High Gain LNB type if your dish size exceeds 120cm. The receiver doesn't matter, as long you use correct dish and LNB, you will be fine.

Yes you can use as many LNBs in a single dish, even for C band and Ku band, but it is pretty challenging and you need a lot of patience and time to set it up as it is harder to get adequate signal. It's up to you if you want to use C band and Ku band together.

In simple words:
Ku band without rain fade: 10 feet (300cm) or bigger. Or you can try consider 8 feet also. (Lol, seriously not everyone is willing to afford and use this big dish in their homes)
C band without rain fade: Recommended 6 feet (180cm). Minimum 4 feet.
*Subject to satellite output power for that particular transponder/channel.

The dish size matters between C band and Ku band is mainly because of the frequency used, as I've mentioned on my posts earlier. C band and Ku band frequency range is a huge difference.

Like it or not, everything about Malaysia including Pay TV, FTA TV channels, and even Internet are all related to our very good government and politics. Too much cronies until you feel sick to even think about protesting or boycotting anyone.

The only solution is to vote the right party during general election, and nothing else.
Even if you complain to MCMC, it doesn't means it will be resolved. Always remember that.

5 mins sometimes is for the local ads placement as well

I also wonder how do they censor the show Game of Thrones

Titties everywhere..

Simple. Just cut off the entire "bad" scene making us wondering what happened and get confused about the events in the story.

I did not watch Season 6 Episode 1 in Ass-throw HBO so let me guess...

In the episode ending scene, a lady went into a room, removed her clothes to reveal her completely naked, turning back into a very old lady. I am not questioning whether it should be censored or not. If Ass-throw cut off the entire scene, many viewers will not know about the transformation. Whether we will know or not depends on how Ass-throw cuts it. If this was the first time that this transformation was shown, then many of us will not even know that this beautiful lady is actually a very old and wrinkled lady. Actually I did not watch Season 1 to 5. Only saw the last part of Season 6 Episode 1 at my friend's house when he showed me his US version "ah-hem" HD video.

I do accept that such scenes need to be censored because of its sensitivities. I heard that many many episodes from Season 1 to Season 6 contain numerous "graphic contents" which makes it very difficult to cut off such scenes and I believe many people can get confused for many episodes especially when the stories are inter-connected.

Guys,

Can Astro decoder still read MyKad like mentioned on some websites?

HBO contents in Malaysia is not censored by Astro but is censored by HBO staff in SG upon requests from Astro, hence there's no 1 hour delay unlike Fox Movies.

So most of the time, if it's shown in SG, then most likely it will get through to astro as well, and vice-versa. SG pay TV also won't allow nudity at least in primetime
oh ya, from this link it shows that the series is equally censored in SG as well..
http://www.herebegeeks.com/tv/game-of-thro...o-asia-tonight/

might as well go for torrent

Guys,

Can Astro decoder still read MyKad like mentioned on some websites?