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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6
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wil-i-am
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Sep 13 2014, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 07:39 AM) I can't even open fixed price account in RHB. So for now, just sapu whatever I can on ASN-3 and 3 ASG funds. Let their dividends average out instead of concentrating on the Health fund promoted by the manager. Dun just sapu variable funds as u need to ensure it suits yo risk appetite
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sms2u
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Sep 13 2014, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 13 2014, 08:46 AM) Dun just sapu variable funds as u need to ensure it suits yo risk appetite is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu
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wil-i-am
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Sep 13 2014, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(sms2u @ Sep 13 2014, 08:54 AM) is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu No limit as it depends on (i) the availability of units for each Fund n (ii) yo bullet
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bbgoat
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Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 13 2014, 08:46 AM) Dun just sapu variable funds as u need to ensure it suits yo risk appetite The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way. My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds. QUOTE(sms2u @ Sep 13 2014, 08:54 AM) is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu My sapu means simply buying. Not sapu lots & lots of them.  But before that already did some research eg I buy less of ASN-3 vs ASG funds. ALso diff proportion of the 3 ASG funds This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM) The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way. My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds. My sapu means simply buying. Not sapu lots & lots of them.  But before that already did some research eg I buy less of ASN-3 vs ASG funds. ALso diff proportion of the 3 ASG funds  Gud decision on doing some research before investing. I'm telling tis to almost everyone I know, but they're not doing it. Simply jump into any investment when others say is good. last2 when there's loss or less profit, then they blame others for not telling them
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE(sms2u @ Sep 13 2014, 08:54 AM) is there a limit to purchase for variable fund? If no, cannot use sapu All ASNB fund have no limit, except ASB & ASB2.. So now all depand on units availbility & your $$
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wil-i-am
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Sep 13 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM) The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way. My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds. Wise decision
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 02:05 PM
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 09:19 AM) The ASG funds looks more like the same risk as they seem to be investing at the various banks. I put those funds that I can risk in UT. So risk averse in a way. My main purpose is not to put all money in one ASNB funds but spread it out as dividends go up and down for these funds. My sapu means simply buying. Not sapu lots & lots of them.  But before that already did some research eg I buy less of ASN-3 vs ASG funds. ALso diff proportion of the 3 ASG funds  No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb. And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci... For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk..
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM) No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb. And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci... For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk.. Agreed. The common companies I see in the funds AR is Sime Darby, Tenaga, Maybank, CIMB, SP Setia, UMW, FGV, Axis Reit, Telekom, Petronas Dagangan, MISC, IOI Corp & Maxis
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TS[Ancient]-XinG-
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Sep 13 2014, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 13 2014, 03:08 PM) Agreed. The common companies I see in the funds AR is Sime Darby, Tenaga, Maybank, CIMB, SP Setia, UMW, FGV, Axis Reit, Telekom, Petronas Dagangan, MISC, IOI Corp & Maxis  And ytl too. They dint invest in aviation industry. Lol.
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bbgoat
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Sep 13 2014, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM) No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb. And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci... For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk.. QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 13 2014, 03:08 PM) Agreed. The common companies I see in the funds AR is Sime Darby, Tenaga, Maybank, CIMB, SP Setia, UMW, FGV, Axis Reit, Telekom, Petronas Dagangan, MISC, IOI Corp & Maxis  For the 3 ASG funds, I overweight in Kesihatan, Persaraan and Pendidikan in decreasing order.  ASN-3 is even lower than Pendidikan. Just to open the acct so next time easier to buy it. This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 04:40 PM
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yorkhan
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Sep 13 2014, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 12 2014, 08:24 PM) got some too at CIMb today. congrats. did u pay for service charge?
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wil-i-am
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Sep 13 2014, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(yorkhan @ Sep 13 2014, 05:40 PM) congrats. did u pay for service charge? No SC for fixed price funds
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wil-i-am
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Sep 13 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM) No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb. All 3 funds in ASG invest in equity with different weightage
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 04:12 PM) And ytl too. They dint invest in aviation industry. Lol. Yup, YTL Power... I think I saw AirAsia Berhad in ASM Annual Report 2014  AirAsia X Bhd Not in the list because it's loss making Company This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 13 2014, 08:08 PM
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 04:20 PM) For the 3 ASG funds, I overweight in Kesihatan, Persaraan and Pendidikan in decreasing order.  ASN-3 is even lower than Pendidikan. Just to open the acct so next time easier to buy it.  ASN-3 is selling quite fast these days compare few years back. Last time I heard around 500mil units sold. Now I think already reach 600mil units Mark (out from 1bil units fund size). Last year, only around 200mil ASN3 units are subscribe
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bbgoat
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Sep 13 2014, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 13 2014, 08:13 PM) ASN-3 is selling quite fast these days compare few years back. Last time I heard around 500mil units sold. Now I think already reach 600mil units Mark (out from 1bil units fund size). Last year, only around 200mil ASN3 units are subscribe  The past performance of ASN-3 not that good compared with ASG funds. The manager was discouraging me to buy it. Just bought the minimum to open an account. Anyway, past performance does not guarantee future performance. That was the often said disclaimer.
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bbgoat
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Sep 13 2014, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Sep 13 2014, 02:21 PM) No worry.. Hehe. Asg in the past 10 have good total ROI. and the 3 fund only health is equity if not mistaken. And the fund proportion investment is all stable company like maxis pb mbb br axiata aeon drb. And I compare to those fixed price all, more or less the same company. Just asg is directly affected by klci... For the past 10year asnb product can consider as low or middle risk.. Yes, ASG Kesihatan is labelled as Equity. All 3 ASG funds top 2 holdings are banks, PBB & MBB, based on July 2014 report. This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 13 2014, 08:35 PM
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davinz18
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Sep 13 2014, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 13 2014, 08:28 PM) The past performance of ASN-3 not that good compared with ASG funds. The manager was discouraging me to buy it. Just bought the minimum to open an account. Anyway, past performance does not guarantee future performance. That was the often said disclaimer.  Spot On I think tis year dividend should be good. Past few years they keep c/fwd the profits. Year 2010 & 2011 they announce same rate (6sen) http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends...saham-gemilang/http://1-million-dollar-blog.com/dividends...ham-nasional-3/
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