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ASN, ASN2, ASN3, ASG, ASB, ASW2020, ASM, ASD, AS1M, AMANAH SAHAM NASIONAL BERHAD V6
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hyelbaine
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Sep 15 2014, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 14 2014, 09:53 PM) ASx give stable income while UT sometimes give 10+% return on "good" year & gives -ve return on "bad" year. Those who are familiar will know that ASNB's mantra is "competitive and consistent returns" which is why they are the very few fund managers that c/f earnings to the next financial year. They may not win many awards or have bumper yields often but they have the track record of providing returns year in and year out. A lot of people miss this point and just go for those with recent high returns or has 5 stars/rating funds If you're looking for decent, stable returns with low risk, ASNB's funds are it. If you really want to chase double-digit returns, go for hedge-fund terus lah lagi power
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davinz18
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Sep 15 2014, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 15 2014, 04:39 PM) Those who are familiar will know that ASNB's mantra is "competitive and consistent returns" which is why they are the very few fund managers that c/f earnings to the next financial year. They may not win many awards or have bumper yields often but they have the track record of providing returns year in and year out. A lot of people miss this point and just go for those with recent high returns or has 5 stars/rating funds If you're looking for decent, stable returns with low risk, ASNB's funds are it. If you really want to chase double-digit returns, go for hedge-fund terus lah lagi power  wow u read my mind, only that I didn't express it like you
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 11 2014, 04:43 PM) eh I tot only the fixed price fund are pro-rated. Once I called ASNB, asking about the AS1M. then they promo me about ASG & ASN3. They said even if u invest 1mth from dividend date, u still get full % of the dividend Now why the RHB staff said both variable & fixed funds are pro-rated  QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 11 2014, 08:27 PM) Fixed price - Dividend based on min balance in each month Variable price - Dividend based on available balance b4 ntitlement Hi guys, In RHB Bank today. Asked the manager again on variable price dividend. Told him I heard variable price funds are NOT pro-rated for dividend distribution. He called another person who called back again to confirm. So the variable price fund dividend is based on available balance b4 entitlement. Thanks ! This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 15 2014, 05:27 PM
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Sep 15 2014, 04:39 PM) Those who are familiar will know that ASNB's mantra is "competitive and consistent returns" which is why they are the very few fund managers that c/f earnings to the next financial year. They may not win many awards or have bumper yields often but they have the track record of providing returns year in and year out. A lot of people miss this point and just go for those with recent high returns or has 5 stars/rating funds If you're looking for decent, stable returns with low risk, ASNB's funds are it. If you really want to chase double-digit returns, go for hedge-fund terus lah lagi power  QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 05:02 PM) wow u read my mind, only that I didn't express it like you  Yes, I really hate those UT that I bought >5 years ago. Some drop by 10 to 30% in 1 year but could recover like yo yo later. Consistent return is much better than one that swing up and down like no control whatsoever.
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davinz18
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Sep 15 2014, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 15 2014, 05:27 PM) Hi guys, In RHB Bank today. Asked the manager again on variable price dividend. Told him I heard variable price funds are NOT pro-rated for dividend distribution. He called another person who called back again to confirm. So the variable price fund dividend is based on available balance b4 entitlement. Thanks !  okay. Now I know the actual thing. Thanks for confirming with the manager
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 06:09 PM) okay. Now I know the actual thing. Thanks for confirming with the manager  It proves that even bank manager may not know the fact/details. The manager is kind of young. Last week he even told me he has checked before but today turns out the other way round. But at least he did call to someone else who still need to double confirm on this. You guys are the one that know all !
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davinz18
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Sep 15 2014, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 15 2014, 06:14 PM) It proves that even bank manager may not know the fact/details. The manager is kind of young. Last week he even told me he has checked before but today turns out the other way round. But at least he did call to someone else who still need to double confirm on this. You guys are the one that know all !  The manager is doing his job. if other people, they would juz simply hentam some info to us (if we're newbie) & we follow blindly
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 15 2014, 05:27 PM) Hi guys, In RHB Bank today. Asked the manager again on variable price dividend. Told him I heard variable price funds are NOT pro-rated for dividend distribution. He called another person who called back again to confirm. So the variable price fund dividend is based on available balance b4 entitlement. Thanks !  Tis prove tat not many PPL knows how variable funds work
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cheahcw2003
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Sep 15 2014, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 04:06 PM) Based on my previous conversation with bank counter staff, 100k units can finish around 1 or 2 hours (depend on how many people "try" that time)  1-2 hours? i intended to transfer 100K to my sis account, asked 2 counters to do it, one counter staff process the sell transaction, another counter get ready to take up the unit sponteneously, guess what, able to capture 50K, the rest gone with the wind within few seconds.
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 07:32 PM
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For those wanting to open new account to buy fixed price fund, no way to open the new account now ? Or have to wait when there is units available, then open new account to buy it ? The RHB manager told me cannot even try.
Sorry, hope I did not sound like broken record. Cannot seem to get a clear answer for the above.
This post has been edited by bbgoat: Sep 15 2014, 07:38 PM
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 15 2014, 07:21 PM) 1-2 hours? i intended to transfer 100K to my sis account, asked 2 counters to do it, one counter staff process the sell transaction, another counter get ready to take up the unit sponteneously, guess what, able to capture 50K, the rest gone with the wind within few seconds. Within 1-2 minute?
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davinz18
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Sep 15 2014, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 15 2014, 07:21 PM) 1-2 hours? i intended to transfer 100K to my sis account, asked 2 counters to do it, one counter staff process the sell transaction, another counter get ready to take up the unit sponteneously, guess what, able to capture 50K, the rest gone with the wind within few seconds. I donno la. I'm juz sharing what the counter staff told me. She said one evening got one customer withdraw around 120k. For 1hr+ she managed to get the units for her clients & friends. after tat, already sold out wow! 50k gone within few seconds  anyway what ASx fund u did the "transfer"? This post has been edited by davinz18: Sep 15 2014, 08:07 PM
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 15 2014, 07:32 PM) For those wanting to open new account to buy fixed price fund, no way to open the new account now ? Or have to wait when there is units available, then open new account to buy it ? The RHB manager told me cannot even try. Sorry, hope I did not sound like broken record. Cannot seem to get a clear answer for the above. For sure win to open new a/c for fixed price fund, need to wait when ASNB offer new units Having said tat, need to q from 6am onwards to secure '1st come 1st serve' basis
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2014, 08:05 PM) For sure win to open new a/c for fixed price fund, need to wait when ASNB offer new units Having said tat, need to q from 6am onwards to secure '1st come 1st serve' basis OK, so have to wait when new units are offered. Miss out the boat years ago already ! Thanks !
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davinz18
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Sep 15 2014, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2014, 08:05 PM) For sure win to open new a/c for fixed price fund, need to wait when ASNB offer new units Having said tat, need to q from 6am onwards to secure '1st come 1st serve' basis6am is TOO LATE... last time I went around 5am, already have 10 people waiting there. Ask the 1st person what time he came. Guess what, 4am!!!
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bbgoat
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Sep 15 2014, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 08:10 PM) 6am is TOO LATE... last time I went around 5am, already have 10 people waiting there. Ask the 1st person what time he came. Guess what, 4am!!!  Really !!?? Not easy to get it, not easy money in a way !!
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plumberly
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Sep 15 2014, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 15 2014, 08:05 PM) For sure win to open new a/c for fixed price fund, need to wait when ASNB offer new units Having said tat, need to q from 6am onwards to secure '1st come 1st serve' basis Reminds me of AS1M release day a few years ago. Took half a day off, I went to MB and I was the 3rd in my queue. Guess what? I was very lucky, after my successful transaction, the 4th one in my queue could not open his account. All taken up in less than 1 hour. We non bumis are the desperate lots! Ha.
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Sep 15 2014, 08:10 PM) 6am is TOO LATE... last time I went around 5am, already have 10 people waiting there. Ask the 1st person what time he came. Guess what, 4am!!!  As long as reach b4 7am is fine
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Sep 15 2014, 08:13 PM) Really !!?? Not easy to get it, not easy money in a way !!  Yet to factor in some investors (in front of u) carry along more than 5 books for top up
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wil-i-am
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Sep 15 2014, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 15 2014, 08:13 PM) Reminds me of AS1M release day a few years ago. Took half a day off, I went to MB and I was the 3rd in my queue. Guess what? I was very lucky, after my successful transaction, the 4th one in my queue could not open his account. All taken up in less than 1 hour. We non bumis are the desperate lots! Ha. Another challenge is pray systems @ Bank is not congested (i.e. offline) during PEAK session
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