Apparently Proton lied about ANCAP 5 star, ANCAP ask proton to remove ancap result
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 Sep 7 2014, 09:13 PM, updated 12y ago
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 http://www.autofreaks.com/2014/09/ancap-ad...umer-reference/ Tomorrow Proton will call all medias for special briefing to change their previous report regarding ANCAP 5 star. -------------------- Before:  Now:  cc: toyoi This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Sep 7 2014, 09:15 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:15 PM
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Sep 7 2014, 09:16 PM
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can sue for misrepresentation ah?
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Sep 7 2014, 09:16 PM
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Now i lost all faith in proton
 Final nail in coffin liaw |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:17 PM
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Marketing failed champion is from Proton.
Number 2 goes to Petronas for a cheap Payung marketing... Side notes: Until now, cant redeem a single set of Payung yet....  This post has been edited by mujinkun: Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM |
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asean ncap
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Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM
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besar amat kemaluan
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Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM
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Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now.
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Sep 7 2014, 09:19 PM
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Sep 7 2014, 09:19 PM
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what a formal way to raise the issue by using comment section..
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Sep 7 2014, 09:19 PM
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kemaluan proton sangat lah besar
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Sep 7 2014, 09:20 PM
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sos mana OP?
proton can sue your ass too |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM) Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now. Statement is "certified: as a past tense...  |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:21 PM
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no more proton for me.
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Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:20 PM) sos mana OP? i figure it out myself. Because i know this is coming. It is unusual for car company to advertise internal crash test result as official result.proton can sue your ass too |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 7 2014, 09:16 PM) can sue for misrepresentation ah? u enter contract liao meh |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM
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marketing team korang hati2 kena lawyar letter
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Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM
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Sep 7 2014, 09:23 PM
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why would somebody from ANCAP reply through website rather than make official statement? sounds fishy
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Sep 7 2014, 09:24 PM
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No more proton, perodua or similar malaysian automotive products for me. Their build quality and durability sucks.
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Sep 7 2014, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM) i figure it out myself. Because i know this is coming. It is unusual for car company to advertise internal crash test result as official result. arent you working in proton too.lel |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:23 PM) why would somebody from ANCAP reply through website rather than make official statement? sounds fishy That is perhaps not the official communication. But after that was posted in the comment section, i open back the microsite, they change the picture. But the wording is still saying ANCAP. Today the change it completely. I've guess ANCAP already communicated directly to Proton to change the advertising content. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:25 PM
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who is this Travis Chang dude
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Sep 7 2014, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:22 PM) i figure it out myself. Because i know this is coming. It is unusual for car company to advertise internal crash test result as official result. sure boh? |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM
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Proton onli got 5 Stars LANCAP rating...
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Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM
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As if Toyota or Honda cars any better.
Proton still has better price to performance ratio. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM
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kemaluan amat besar
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Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:25 PM) That is perhaps not the official communication. But after that was posted in the comment section, i open back the microsite, they change the picture. But the wording is still saying ANCAP. Today the change it completely. what change? since i don't see what differences from the site I've guess ANCAP already communicated directly to Proton to change the advertising content. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:27 PM) what change? since i don't see what differences from the site check the screenshot bro. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM
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omg, ruffstuff, now how? u got cont sapok?
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Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM
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Where's the source of before / after images? Can't find those
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Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM
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Proton penipu scammer?! who would've thought?!
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Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM
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Y am i not surprised?
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Sep 7 2014, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM) Where's the source of before / after images? Can't find those I have to google out old screenshot with the wording. Those who direct link the image, will get the latest amended embedded to their post. Because i certainly remember they advertise BOTH ANCAP and Asean NCAP as 5 star. And I certainly remember the first media briefing from Proton chief technology about the car for the engine, they also did mention ANCAP 5 star. From here i suspect the odd, but i assume they got green light from ANCAP themselves to use the internal result for advertising. This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:28 PM) check the screenshot bro. ahhh i seemus be marketing bodoh confuse which ancap but seriously you've could landed with litigation from potong |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM
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Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:25 PM) who is this Travis Chang dude he is travis_ckf , a freelance content provider for Autofreaksscroll to the bottom of Autofreaks see whose name there...  |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:25 PM) who is this Travis Chang dude autofreak editor |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM
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Will proton delay lagi launch until ANCAP rating out so save face?
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Sep 7 2014, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM) he is travis_ckf , a freelance content provider for Autofreaks scroll to the bottom of Autofreaks see whose name there... QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM) autofreak editor so he penipu scammer lar? |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:31 PM) ahhh i see No. They not confuse. But marketing department make big mistake. And i can see proton is desperate to fight with Axia since suddenly Axia is using Asean NCAP as their marketing campaign. mus be marketing bodoh confuse which ancap but seriously you've could landed with litigation from potong As for the ANCAP result itself, yes the did scored 5 star, but internal test. Not the one ANCAP pick the car and test it. Paultan was invited, and they saw the ANCAP video. The internal test is just like Preve before, internally 5 star ANCAP, but they did not use that as marketing only after the official result out 6-8 months later and refresh the whole line up of Preve with 6 airbags and VDC as standard. This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(euthanasia @ Sep 7 2014, 09:33 PM) Will proton delay lagi launch until ANCAP rating out so save face? how come need to delay since the PCC share same proven platform from Preve |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM) Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now. this. but malu la so gelojoh one this protonbasher all happy now |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:34 PM) so he penipu scammer lar? manada.jpegor else se7en tendang him edi |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:34 PM) No. They not confuse. But marketing department make big mistake. And i can see proton is desperate to fight with Axia since suddenly Axia is using Asean NCAP as their marketing campaign. ah the bold partAs for the ANCAP result itself, yes the did scored 5 star, but internal test. Not the one ANCAP pick the car and test it. Paultan was invited, and they saw the ANCAP video. The internal test is just like Preve before, internally 5 star ANCAP, but they did not use that as marketing only after the official result out 6-8 months later. somebody from marketing gonna kick the bucket |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM) manada.jpeg butttt he say got ancapp now no ancapppp got lancap onlyor else se7en tendang him edi |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:37 PM) butttt he say got ancapp now no ancapppp got lancap only it's not his mistake, it's potong mistakehe just correct the news liao |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:38 PM
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ANCAP tested, but not officially rated.
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Sep 7 2014, 09:40 PM
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Semua yang buruk pasal Proton semua percaya..mai yang pujian semua mau source ..hahaha kelakar ah
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Sep 7 2014, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(faizeq @ Sep 7 2014, 09:40 PM) Semua yang buruk pasal Proton semua percaya..mai yang pujian semua mau source ..hahaha kelakar ah some people are just that blind, can't help them |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Sep 7 2014, 09:42 PM) Proton Preve still have 5-star ANCAP, right? Yesthat one is official already. can see on ANCAP website PCC not on ANCAP website This post has been edited by dares: Sep 7 2014, 09:43 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Love & Money @ Sep 7 2014, 09:42 PM) Proton Preve still have 5-star ANCAP, right? refer to this postQUOTE(dares @ Sep 7 2014, 09:38 PM) ANCAP tested, but not officially rated. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:38 PM) it's not his mistake, it's potong mistake ohh so proton told him got anncap lar...ok jpeg... he just correct the news liao  |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:43 PM) refer to this post He's asking about Preve, not PCCQUOTE(Love & Money @ Sep 7 2014, 09:44 PM) What's PCC? Yes, that Myvi-Fiesta crossbreedThe latest Proton model? |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:48 PM
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got ancap ke no ancap ke,
still a proton. Lost Faith in Proton? Never had any faith in them from start. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:35 PM) how come need to delay since the PCC share same proven platform from Preve Oh ya forgot bout that. But official results is official right? Else ANCAP pipu wouldn't be all over our internet correcting our journalists. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(euthanasia @ Sep 7 2014, 09:48 PM) Oh ya forgot bout that. But official results is official right? Else ANCAP pipu wouldn't be all over our internet correcting our journalists. refer to dares post, probably done testing, but not allowed to advertise or one way another |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:50 PM
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the same thing with our education system too?
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Sep 7 2014, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 7 2014, 09:48 PM) got ancap ke no ancap ke, well duh because of him is it?still a proton. Lost Faith in Proton? Never had any faith in them from start.  save it when he die This post has been edited by ichi_24: Sep 7 2014, 09:53 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 7 2014, 09:48 PM) got ancap ke no ancap ke, Local sh!t ke Japanese sh!t kestill a proton. Lost Faith in Proton? Never had any faith in them from start. still sh!t Buy which sh!t? of course Japanese sh!t. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:50 PM) refer to dares post, probably done testing, but not allowed to advertise or one way another Got it. Official testing results need to come from the horses' mouth right? Mkting team jumped the gun and the jargons Tested but not rated lost in translation.But honestly, any advertising related material regarding any major product launch always go though management approval. And from my experience, nothing gets passed CEO, CFO, COO etc, even the smallest details will never be overlooked. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(kehadapan @ Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM) toyoi jizzed Mana ada toyol doesn't even believe in car safety, if not toyoi won't post implying car safety innovation is stupid and wasting time and also money |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(euthanasia @ Sep 7 2014, 09:55 PM) Got it. Official testing results need to come from the horses' mouth right? Mkting team jumped the gun and the jargons Tested but not rated lost in translation. you kena faham, who CEO, CFO, COO proton is But honestly, any advertising related material regarding any major product launch always go though management approval. And from my experience, nothing gets passed CEO, CFO, COO etc, even the smallest details will never be overlooked.  |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(euthanasia @ Sep 7 2014, 09:55 PM) Got it. Official testing results need to come from the horses' mouth right? Mkting team jumped the gun and the jargons Tested but not rated lost in translation. someone need to be fired. I opened thread just to make it echo. Because many not notice this. Jangan harap kau boleh lepas la Proton.But honestly, any advertising related material regarding any major product launch always go though management approval. And from my experience, nothing gets passed CEO, CFO, COO etc, even the smallest details will never be overlooked. |
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Sep 7 2014, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 04:51 PM) well duh because of him is it? Yahoo !!!! MEME !!!save it when he die  Yes, I win liao lor |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:00 PM
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Marketing dept of p1 is one of the burden of the company, truly failed. Sack the manager.
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Sep 7 2014, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:51 PM) well duh because of him is it? No.save it when he die Never like them because of the pathetic protection given by the garment. Remove that protection and price all car fairly (Foreign brand) and we'll really see if proton can stay in the market. |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:01 PM
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we must support local brand/product no matter what. even if we lied & got caught lying. we must support.
 our engineers at potong are as qualified as international engineers! we get |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 7 2014, 10:00 PM) No. can u see the similarities in our education system? Never like them because of the pathetic protection given by the garment. Remove that protection and price all car fairly (Foreign brand) and we'll really see if proton can stay in the market. |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 7 2014, 10:00 PM) No. well it all start with him................................ Never like them because of the pathetic protection given by the garment. Remove that protection and price all car fairly (Foreign brand) and we'll really see if proton can stay in the market. |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM) Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now. meh, my 16 year old brother will take spm later and probably pass anyways. doesn't mean that he doesn't have spm cert cos simply means right now haven't taken the papers yet |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(figuremeout @ Sep 7 2014, 10:02 PM) can u see the similarities in our education system? Tats why I hyper-strong supporter of SRJK ©. |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Sep 7 2014, 10:04 PM) Tats why I hyper-strong supporter of SRJK ©. kenot bro. the only rule to play the game is to eliminate competitors... |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(Predator10 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:19 PM) what a formal way to raise the issue by using comment section.. this |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:18 PM
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suddenly this thread turn into one side racial bashing
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Sep 7 2014, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:13 PM) http://www.autofreaks.com/2014/09/ancap-ad...umer-reference/ Tomorrow Proton will call all medias for special briefing to change their previous report regarding ANCAP 5 star. -------------------- Before: Now: cc: toyoi |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM) Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now. Probably.... hahahhahaha. It also probably didn't get 4 stars also as probably can mean either way. When you report, please have some credibility, don't simply said. If you not yet tested, just said not yet tested, just like SPM, not yet get results, don't confidence said can get straight A's |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:22 PM
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toyota is worse
i remember when listening at Hitz.fm there have an advertisement like "In toyota, your safety is our priority" padahal Toyota is the car with the least safety |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:20 PM) Probably.... hahahhahaha. It also probably didn't get 4 stars also as probably can mean either way. When you report, please have some credibility, don't simply said. It is certainly 5 star rated car. No doubt about it. But it was done internally. Just like Preve, exora. The only different, they not use it as marketing when it was tested internally. That is the mistake.If you not yet tested, just said not yet tested, just like SPM, not yet get results, don't confidence said can get straight A's Australsian NCAP is very strict. I guess, Asean NCAP should do the same too. Why allow them to use as marketing when the result was not even out in Asean NCAP website? This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Sep 7 2014, 10:25 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:23 PM
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Buy la proton. All proton suporktar come in give explanation
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Sep 7 2014, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:20 PM) Probably.... hahahhahaha. It also probably didn't get 4 stars also as probably can mean either way. When you report, please have some credibility, don't simply said. It is tested internally but by Proton, not the crew from ANCAP, the result wasnt supposed to be shown to public, but somehow the marketing team got the leaked info and put it into ADIf you not yet tested, just said not yet tested, just like SPM, not yet get results, don't confidence said can get straight A's and i can confirm, it is going to get 5 stars |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:24 PM
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Ahahahaahahah! Sendiri bikin malu. Ahaahhahahaha.
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Sep 7 2014, 10:25 PM
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Time for MCAP. Best CAP in the world.
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Sep 7 2014, 10:25 PM
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I believe Perodua found out that GSC/PCC/Iriz wasn't in Ancap's certified list, so they complaint and asked Ancap to force Proton to embarrass themselves.
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Sep 7 2014, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(thexs @ Sep 7 2014, 10:25 PM) Time for MCAP. Best CAP in the world. wow.. here we gooooo.. msia boleh |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:27 PM
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proton lompat pistol liao. the design and marketing team could use some help. but their concept cars are nice and dun even look that far out into the future unlike other car manufacturers.
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Sep 7 2014, 10:27 PM
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im not surprised
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Sep 7 2014, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Sep 7 2014, 10:22 PM) toyota is worse you forget this i remember when listening at Hitz.fm there have an advertisement like "In toyota, your safety is our priority" padahal Toyota is the car with the least safety QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Feb 25 2013, 10:06 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Vios rated at 4 stars, but do you think 4 stars impressive enough? Please take note ASEAN NCAP don't preform side impact crash test. Thus, total accumulated scores doesn't include the side impact crash test. Refer to my previous post regarding the importance of side airbags. Well, let me share this Camry vs. Yaris (a.k.a Vios) compatibility crash test at 64 km/h done by IIHS. Dugong Warrior may find the crash test video offensive and die-die defend their Dugong. Here are some of their typical responses: Dugong Warrior: "WTF, you are so stupid! Simple math also don't know LOL. 64x2=128 km/h crash test speed, sure hancur barai la..."  Dugong Warrior: "When accident happen, slam brake kaw-kaw. Thus, the 64 km/h crash test is not applicable. I'm still safe and alive." Dugong Warrior: "The test is unfair! Camry is luxury car, please find and crash a similar category car."  The crash test result speaks for itself.  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Two car head on collision at 64 km/h does really equal to 128 km/h crash test? Buckle up your seat belt! It's crunch time with MythBusters.  |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 10:23 PM) It is certainly 5 star rated car. No doubt about it. But it was done internally Just like Preve, exora. The only different, they not use it as marketing when it was tested internally. That is the mistake. In a sense, it will be the a commercial scandal which you con people thinking you got tested by ANCAP. Australsian NCAP is very strict. I guess, Asean NCAP should do the same too. Why allow them to use as marketing when the result was not even out in Asean NCAP website? And I agreed on what you saying why allow to simply publish the results? The marketing departments' head should rolled if you asked me. QUOTE(Proton Supir-ma S @ Sep 7 2014, 10:25 PM) I believe Perodua found out that GSC/PCC/Iriz wasn't in Ancap's certified list, so they complaint and asked Ancap to force Proton to embarrass themselves. So my questions is? Who do you believe more? Perodua is probably the culprit here. 1. A culprit that report others wrong doing? 2. A culprit that report an unpublished or never tested results? This post has been edited by kcchong2000: Sep 7 2014, 10:34 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Sep 7 2014, 09:17 PM) Marketing failed champion is from Proton. wats with you and the payung? didn get free payung also mad ar?Number 2 goes to Petronas for a cheap Payung marketing... Side notes: Until now, cant redeem a single set of Payung yet.... |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:31 PM) In a sense, it will be the a commercial scandal which you con people thinking you got tested by ANCAP. In, the bolehland, u boleh believe no one....................And I agreed on what you saying why allow to simply publish the results? The marketing departments' head should rolled if you asked me. So my questions is? Who do you believe more? 1. A culprit that report others wrong doing? 2. A culprit that report an unpublished or never tested results? |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:38 PM
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LANCAP got lar
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Sep 7 2014, 10:39 PM
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Tak habis2 nak cheong rakyat
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Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM
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so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol
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Sep 7 2014, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM) so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol Biasa la.Kalau foreign brand mesti defend, proton je terus bash |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:46 PM
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From a blog..... So legit
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Sep 7 2014, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(ichi_24 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:30 PM) you forget this i know bout that 2 cars head on because the crash test wall is solid rock hard, while 2 cars head on both having crumple zonebut knowing a good car crashing at 50 miles head on can still survive  |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM) so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Sep 7 2014, 10:46 PM) From a blog..... So legit it's not a blog, it's a dedicated auto news site or sister site of lowyat.netin b4 ichi jilat kaki mod/staff/admin |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:31 PM) So my questions is? Who do you believe more? Its good that Proton got caught for giving false info but my point was that there are possibility the culprit that reported this could be Perodua as the main obstacle for Axia now is Proton's new car.1. A culprit that report others wrong doing? 2. A culprit that report an unpublished or never tested results? |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Manlet @ Sep 7 2014, 10:24 PM) It is tested internally but by Proton, not the crew from ANCAP, the result wasnt supposed to be shown to public, but somehow the marketing team got the leaked info and put it into AD Please....... see their market results. It said ANCAP not Proton ANCAP or PANCAP. So from here i can said you manipulate me with your internal results or going to get which is not yet confirm. Don't said on going get 5 stars as your credibility is going wrong side of the line. and i can confirm, it is going to get 5 stars And previous post that I said, marketing team head's will rolled as they're doing what we can called a commercial scandal here. |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Proton Supir-ma S @ Sep 7 2014, 10:52 PM) Its good that Proton got caught for giving false info but my point was that there are possibility the culprit that reported this could be Perodua as the main obstacle for Axia now is Proton's new car. That is business world for you. Not really difference with the Game of Thrones, where all party will want the Iron Thrones |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 7 2014, 09:13 PM) http://www.autofreaks.com/2014/09/ancap-ad...umer-reference/ Tomorrow Proton will call all medias for special briefing to change their previous report regarding ANCAP 5 star. -------------------- Before: Now: cc: toyoi |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:58 PM
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lol
"...in msia, everyday is a living joke" This post has been edited by blinkxox: Sep 7 2014, 10:59 PM |
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Sep 7 2014, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:52 PM) Please....... see their market results. It said ANCAP not Proton ANCAP or PANCAP. So from here i can said you manipulate me with your internal results or going to get which is not yet confirm. Don't said on going get 5 stars as your credibility is going wrong side of the line. maybe the marketing team is smart leh And previous post that I said, marketing team head's will rolled as they're doing what we can called a commercial scandal here.  they make big hoo haa now about the crash test result, and the whole world pays attention to it, then the actual result out with 5 stars, people will praise them and myvi macai will now turns to buy IRIZ i sense this is all a marketing gimmicks on proton either way still IRIZ buyer gets the most benefit |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:18 PM
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very clever no wonder protong is real potong
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Sep 7 2014, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:34 PM) so he penipu scammer lar? Aduhai, I just wrote that news piece and took Proton's PCC for reference. That reply from ANCAP was shocking.Looks like Proton corrected the whole SNAFU. But look closely at other blogs and they do state the PCC got 5 stars from ANCAP. In the end, better wait for tmr's clarification if there's any. |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:48 PM
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Baru PCC dah kantoi menipu, apa nak jadi Proton oooiiiiii ......
Tengok apa spin keluar esok dari Proton. |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:52 PM
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if youre gonna lie , lie la properly.
can put ANCEP rating ..to trick |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ Sep 7 2014, 09:17 PM) Marketing failed champion is from Proton. i got 5 set full cop.. say can oni claim one, give others. WTF?Number 2 goes to Petronas for a cheap Payung marketing... Side notes: Until now, cant redeem a single set of Payung yet.... |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:54 PM
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gila apa guna comment section....
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Sep 7 2014, 11:55 PM
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No matter what, what's relevant is the annual revision of the ANCAP regulations.
So for Preve, Suprima S and Exora which were tested in 2013, they cant use the same results to justify how safe it is in 2015 onwards. Should the Preve, tested 5-star in 2013, tested in 2016, it might get poorer results than then 2013 one.  But come think of it, I recalled Proton promoted the Preve with 5stars ANCAP whereelse the official test were made in 2013 |
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Sep 7 2014, 11:58 PM
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how to know robson is also real?
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Sep 8 2014, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM) so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol ok. then show where or which document ANCAP says it's 5 star? |
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Sep 8 2014, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Sep 7 2014, 11:46 PM) Aduhai, I just wrote that news piece and took Proton's PCC for reference. That reply from ANCAP was shocking. Looks like Proton corrected the whole SNAFU. But look closely at other blogs and they do state the PCC got 5 stars from ANCAP. In the end, better wait for tmr's clarification if there's any. QUOTE(bengang13 @ Sep 7 2014, 09:44 PM) ohh so proton told him got anncap lar...ok jpeg... cool bro... |
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Sep 8 2014, 12:48 AM
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ler ini benda pun mau tipu ke, buat main-main pulak
bobo potong |
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Sep 8 2014, 12:55 AM
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proton 5 star....i think my si fat oso cn get 6stars
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Sep 8 2014, 12:59 AM
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ok.. potong troopers.. apa lagi? meh support la..
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Sep 8 2014, 06:06 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Sep 7 2014, 11:55 PM) No matter what, what's relevant is the annual revision of the ANCAP regulations. If I can recall back, Preve was tested independently at the same crash test facility in Australia before the actual test when ANCAP select random cars from proton sold there. That is why they are confident about the rating. Refer to this news article. I think they did the same with the PCC. Just that the marketing team is very eager to advertise it and it isn't a professional thing to do as ANCAP hasn't done it officially. So for Preve, Suprima S and Exora which were tested in 2013, they cant use the same results to justify how safe it is in 2015 onwards. Should the Preve, tested 5-star in 2013, tested in 2016, it might get poorer results than then 2013 one. ;) But come think of it, I recalled Proton promoted the Preve with 5stars ANCAP whereelse the official test were made in 2013 :stars: |
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Sep 8 2014, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(razkal @ Sep 8 2014, 06:06 AM) If I can recall back, Preve was tested independently at the same crash test facility in Australia before the actual test when ANCAP select random cars from proton sold there. That is why they are confident about the rating. Refer to this news article. I think they did the same with the PCC. Just that the marketing team is very eager to advertise it and it isn't a professional thing to do as ANCAP hasn't done it officially. Correct. It was internal test. The car is 5 star ANCAP. When they first made public statement on PCC, i was quite shock they put internal ANCAP result. So i guess ANCAP give Proton the green light. It turns out no. |
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Sep 8 2014, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM) so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol Proton belip and they removed their statement. |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE(krizalid88 @ Sep 7 2014, 10:43 PM) so with only 1 random comment on the blog u guise belip they really ANCAP manager? lololol QUOTE(SamsengFan @ Sep 8 2014, 06:56 AM) Proton belip and they removed their statement. There will be a media briefing today. I don't think its the comment alone. Proton probably get official communication from ANCAP, hence the amendment on the microsite. |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:08 AM
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“Safety is very important and customers should know which car is safe and which is not. ANCAP differs from ASEAN NCAP as it takes everything into account, and we got five stars for that, so there is no issue for us,” Proton manufacturing and production COO, Khairudin Datuk Haji Yusoff told paultan.org in a recent interview
paultantk can pre-ANCAP testing consider certified? |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 07:08 AM) “Safety is very important and customers should know which car is safe and which is not. ANCAP differs from ASEAN NCAP as it takes everything into account, and we got five stars for that, so there is no issue for us,” Proton manufacturing and production COO, Khairudin Datuk Haji Yusoff told paultan.org in a recent interview I think cars sold in their continent need to be randomly selected in order to be certified. Not sure about the preANCAP. Proton might randomly select cars from their production line in order to rate their safety :hmm: :hmm: paultantk can pre-ANCAP testing consider certified? |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 07:08 AM) “Safety is very important and customers should know which car is safe and which is not. ANCAP differs from ASEAN NCAP as it takes everything into account, and we got five stars for that, so there is no issue for us,” Proton manufacturing and production COO, Khairudin Datuk Haji Yusoff told paultan.org in a recent interview No. Certified meaning it is published to the website. Just like exora before any ANCAP result, it was internally rated 4 star maximum euro ncap. Since they tested it internally at IDIADA facilities. But they never use it as marketing, but just mention it it is 4 star equivalent. paultantk can pre-ANCAP testing consider certified? |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:25 AM
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fak you proton. Never gonna buy a car from u again. You fukin liar
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Sep 8 2014, 07:28 AM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 8 2014, 02:21 AM) No. Certified meaning it is published to the website. Just like exora before any ANCAP result, it was internally rated 4 star maximum euro ncap. Since they tested it internally at IDIADA facilities. But they never use it as marketing, but just mention it it is 4 star equivalent. habis la COO. |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:30 AM
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To be honest I don't really have faith in the ANCAP, or anything that comes out of Australia really
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Sep 8 2014, 07:31 AM
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Why ancap insisted on selecting random car themselves?
Of course la. Cannot trust car maker. Later they send special edition for ancap testing only. |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:34 AM
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Dat doesn't sound like aussie
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Sep 8 2014, 07:43 AM
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proton penipu scammer!
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Sep 8 2014, 08:14 AM
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haha suddenly people car about ancap and safety
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Sep 8 2014, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 8 2014, 07:36 AM) proton say ANCAP is Asean NCAP not Australia NCAP izzit They said both ASEAN and Australasian NCAP is 5 star. |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 8 2014, 03:16 AM) why u up car in the morning U UPCAR, ME UPCARWE ALL UPCAR |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(pallmall @ Sep 8 2014, 08:14 AM) haha suddenly people car about ancap and safety noi thought people only car about FC is RV |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:55 AM
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What ASEAN Ancap?
Got other ASEAN country producing cars ah? |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:56 AM
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Sep 8 2014, 08:57 AM
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butoh from comments oso take as truth
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Sep 8 2014, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(pml_318 @ Sep 8 2014, 03:56 AM) i stop click when see thishttp://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=341 ahahahhaahahaha we got 1 star. only 1 star is it. femes liao lor |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(mousqy @ Sep 8 2014, 08:57 AM) butoh from comments oso take as truth dei baca betul. If the comment is not true, Proton will not change their content in the microsite. And Proton will have media briefing today. If proton did not change and stick with the original information, so i guess its ok for them to publish internal result and ANCAP give them green light. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(bereev @ Sep 8 2014, 08:16 AM) why u up car in the morning QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 08:46 AM) U UPCAR, ME UPCAR it's care sorry WE ALL UPCAR  ayam ofis keyboard belom minum kopi liaw |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(euthanasia @ Sep 7 2014, 09:55 PM) Got it. Official testing results need to come from the horses' mouth right? Mkting team jumped the gun and the jargons Tested but not rated lost in translation. quite convenient to blame the marketing team if something goes wrong. But honestly, any advertising related material regarding any major product launch always go though management approval. And from my experience, nothing gets passed CEO, CFO, COO etc, even the smallest details will never be overlooked. but normally marketing get the information from the sales/tech team. they just do the design. plus all these are proof read before releasing to the media. so unless u tell me the marketing team in proton is special that they can just anyhow make up something and release it right away after they created the advertisement, i guess this was deliberate. a case of over eagerness from proton. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 09:01 AM) i stop click when see this http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=341 ahahahhaahahaha we got 1 star. only 1 star is it. femes liao lor  wah 1star means dummy also mati.. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 09:01 AM) i stop click when see this but still that car is 1 of the best selling proton in AUS http://www.ancap.com.au/crashtestrecord?Id=341 ahahahhaahahaha we got 1 star. only 1 star is it. femes liao lor safety really is overrated stuff This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 8 2014, 09:13 AM |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:22 AM
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Asean NCAP and Australia NCAP
Both is 'A'NCAP what? |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 8 2014, 04:10 AM) wah 1star means dummy also mati.. USD 400k gone Crash test dummies are full-scale anthropomorphic test devices (ATD) that simulate the dimensions, weight proportions and articulation of the human body, and are usually instrumented to record data about the dynamic behavior of the ATD in simulated vehicle impacts.[1] This data can include variables such as velocity of impact, crushing force, bending, folding, or torque of the body, and deceleration rates during a collision for use in crash tests. The more advanced dummies are sophisticated machines designed to behave as a human body and with many sensors to record the forces of an impact; they may cost over US$400,000.[2] QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Sep 8 2014, 04:13 AM) but still that car is 1 of the best selling proton in AUS pick ups price like double compare with proton arena ke apa. sudah lupa. safety really is overrated stuff ppl use for carry goods no care safety de |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(cksiah @ Sep 8 2014, 09:08 AM) quite convenient to blame the marketing team if something goes wrong. Yes. It is deliberate and intentional. From the Chief technical press release, from the microsite. The top management really want to have the 5 star rated to be selling point.but normally marketing get the information from the sales/tech team. they just do the design. plus all these are proof read before releasing to the media. so unless u tell me the marketing team in proton is special that they can just anyhow make up something and release it right away after they created the advertisement, i guess this was deliberate. a case of over eagerness from proton. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:30 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA Nak tipu pun tak tau tipu
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Sep 8 2014, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 8 2014, 09:10 AM) wah 1star means dummy also mati.. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Sep 7 2014, 09:16 PM) can sue for misrepresentation ah? you buy liao, then sue them for misrep. you rich loh. claim for exemplary damages as well. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Sep 8 2014, 09:33 AM) you buy liao, then sue them for misrep. you rich loh. claim for exemplary damages as well. lawyer in $$$AMG come liao...  |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(Balaclava @ Sep 8 2014, 09:33 AM) you buy liao, then sue them for misrep. you rich loh. claim for exemplary damages as well. U forgot this is Malaysia bro, wrong also can become right one.. |
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Sep 8 2014, 09:51 AM
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LANCAP
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Sep 8 2014, 10:04 AM
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How in the world toyoi not involve in this tered? Imma surprised
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Sep 8 2014, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(ashportal @ Sep 8 2014, 05:04 AM) How in the world toyoi not involve in this tered? Imma surprised TOYOI |
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Sep 8 2014, 10:31 AM
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toyoi maybe camping at Proton's HQ for media conference kot
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Sep 8 2014, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Sep 8 2014, 05:31 AM) toyoi maybe camping at Proton's HQ for media conference kot Usually ppl who speak the loud but do time, shadow also nvr see |
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Sep 8 2014, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(IluvProton @ Sep 8 2014, 10:37 AM) Usually ppl who speak the loud but do time, shadow also nvr see where's the love? |
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Sep 8 2014, 10:44 AM
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dorang ingat boleh main2 je ke ancap ni? ancap is srs business yo!
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Sep 8 2014, 10:44 AM
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Proton bashing thread.... 10 page incoming....
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Sep 8 2014, 10:48 AM
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so this Rhianne Robson, is she/he legit?
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Sep 8 2014, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(asiff @ Sep 8 2014, 10:48 AM) so this Rhianne Robson, is she/he legit? legit or not, Proton changed their microsite content from ANCAP to Asean NCAP only. |
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Sep 8 2014, 10:51 AM
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toyoi mana u ?
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Sep 8 2014, 11:05 AM
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Just like North Korea when they won World Cup . Or how about dear leader shot hole in one when he was 3
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Sep 8 2014, 11:08 AM
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Phuuii....
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Sep 8 2014, 11:13 AM
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lol ... proton forgot they got international users also... they forgot they will check ancap website to verify it true or not hahaha... now they made a big mistake... whooops... ancap organizer sure make proton malu after this... make it 4 star max LOL...
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Sep 8 2014, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(asiff @ Sep 8 2014, 10:48 AM) so this Rhianne Robson, is she/he legit? Google her name. She is the spokesperson for ANCAPQUOTE(moviefans25 @ Sep 8 2014, 11:13 AM) lol ... proton forgot they got international users also... they forgot they will check ancap website to verify it true or not hahaha... now they made a big mistake... whooops... ancap organizer sure make proton malu after this... make it 4 star max LOL... In the end, when PCC is launched, dealers will put ANCAP 5-Star rating in the brochures |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:20 AM
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Come and bluff more, slowly no people will trust anymore
Remember the story of wolf |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(kentchow75 @ Sep 8 2014, 11:20 AM) Come and bluff more, slowly no people will trust anymore is not actually called bluff or cheat la... is they over confident to publish the result without test it first.... Remember the story of wolf |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:26 AM
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Toyoi Suka....
Boleh jual AXIA |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:27 AM
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proton padan muka
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Sep 8 2014, 11:28 AM
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KEMALUAN YG TERAMAT BESARRRRRRRRRR~~~~~~~~~~~
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Sep 8 2014, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 8 2014, 05:39 AM) like Iluvproton fella where's the love? i insap liao |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:44 AM
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sedekah satu komen dalam satu lagi tered bashing proton.
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Sep 8 2014, 11:50 AM
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ruffstuff posting anti-proton tered?
impossibruuu |
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Sep 8 2014, 11:57 AM
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same PR team as the MAS "Bucket List" campaign i guess
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Sep 8 2014, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(cksiah @ Sep 8 2014, 09:08 AM) quite convenient to blame the marketing team if something goes wrong. I believe sometimes (most of the time) it is communication error where information get's lost in translation between marketing team and advertising agency. They didnt make it up, info was there. Just that they should've known since this is not the first time doing this that NCAP and ASEAN NCAP is different things. Maybe someone overlooked this 'small' detail. But product havent launch yet and officially the materials we see are all leaked no? SO I guess they still have time to change before release?but normally marketing get the information from the sales/tech team. they just do the design. plus all these are proof read before releasing to the media. so unless u tell me the marketing team in proton is special that they can just anyhow make up something and release it right away after they created the advertisement, i guess this was deliberate. a case of over eagerness from proton. |
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Sep 8 2014, 12:38 PM
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deadbodybreakcoffinwakeupyoudontdsay.jpg
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Sep 8 2014, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Sep 8 2014, 12:10 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « where the pricing chart come from? |
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Sep 8 2014, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Sep 8 2014, 01:45 PM) where the pricing chart come from? Honda malaysia website got la |
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Sep 8 2014, 02:19 PM
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no sedition act?
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Sep 8 2014, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Sep 8 2014, 02:17 PM) Honda malaysia website got la i dunno. lels. thought got site compare car prices just like gsmarena compare phone specs. |
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Sep 8 2014, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Sep 7 2014, 09:18 PM) Meh, it'll be tested and probably get the 5 star anyways. It doesn't mean that it's not qualified for 5 star as not yet tested right now. hahahhahahaha |
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Sep 8 2014, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Sep 8 2014, 02:45 PM) why must we bow to ancap? why cant we have our our maysian cap? can call it MCAP...MACAP or KICAP... ASEAN NCAP is under MIROS malaysia. Test all cars produce in ASEAN region. |
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Sep 8 2014, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Sep 8 2014, 03:01 PM) so in another word we dont need assuies to tell us whether we can put ncap 5 star or 6 star right? ANCAP and ASEAN NCAP is diferent. Asean NCAP only test frontal collison. ANCAP do more comprehensive test. So 4 star ASEAN NCAP doesnt mean it is 4 star ANCAP.Proton did scored both 5 star in Asean NCAP and ANCAP (internally). Yes it is big deal to get the ANCAP rating rather than Asean NCAP. Asean NCAP is lauya. Why? Because car not yet in the market, and result was not even publish yet, Perodua and Peroton already use it as marketing. But lucky for Perodua, after few days, ASEAN NCAP realease phase III result. |
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Sep 8 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(TunaFish1990 @ Sep 8 2014, 03:09 PM) Ok lar...at least maysians can decide our own fate... why 11 stars?i think asean ncap should give proton like 11 stars or something.. |
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Sep 8 2014, 03:13 PM
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LANCAP
Los Angeles NCAP |
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Sep 8 2014, 03:29 PM
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that's international standard oooohhhhhhhhh
where's that Ah Chan on the radio? I miss his ah beng english This post has been edited by HuorEarfalas: Sep 8 2014, 03:29 PM |
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Sep 8 2014, 03:33 PM
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POTONG TIPU OLANG
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Sep 8 2014, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Sep 8 2014, 02:38 PM) i dunno. lels. thought got site compare car prices just like gsmarena compare phone specs. carbase malaysia got ma. |
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Sep 8 2014, 05:15 PM
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huh what's the fuss? did proton even announce ancap 5 star? on their website it was stated as asean ncap not the australasian one. sounds like it was a mistake made by autofreaks
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Sep 8 2014, 05:16 PM
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So this story betol ke tak betol?
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Sep 8 2014, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(aquavit @ Sep 8 2014, 05:15 PM) huh what's the fuss? did proton even announce ancap 5 star? on their website it was stated as asean ncap not the australasian one. sounds like it was a mistake made by autofreaks Paul Tan still listed it as ANCAP: http://paultan.org/2014/08/31/proton-compa...photo-released/.I supposed many didn't realized it because ANCAP spokesperson somehow choose to comments at AF alone but could be because AF wroter about ANCAP's new timestamp exercise while referring to Preve and Suprima's ANCAP rating. |
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Sep 8 2014, 05:48 PM
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So proton can go meLANCAP now?
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Sep 8 2014, 06:25 PM
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as expected..if thread about protong sure will go up..
i'm wondering where is the "godcar" atap tin milo issue thread..closed already  |
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Sep 8 2014, 06:40 PM
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Ini semua salah toyoi
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Sep 8 2014, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 8 2014, 09:53 AM) ASEAN NCAP is under MIROS malaysia. Test all cars produce in ASEAN region. tat sohem again?  |
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Sep 8 2014, 07:48 PM
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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Sep 8 2014, 05:12 PM) carbase malaysia got ma. lg noted. ty. lemme shake hand. |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(Invince_Z @ Sep 8 2014, 02:38 PM) i dunno. lels. thought got site compare car prices just like gsmarena compare phone specs. http://www.carbase.my/car-comparison |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:17 PM
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ASEAN NCAP is crap
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Sep 8 2014, 08:19 PM
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Sep 8 2014, 08:24 PM
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QUOTE(paultantk @ Sep 8 2014, 08:00 PM) self promotion nampak? This post has been edited by SoZa: Sep 8 2014, 08:24 PM |
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Sep 10 2014, 03:29 PM
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This could provide some closure to the recent ANCAP debacle
 http://www.autofreaks.com/2014/09/proton-r...-ancap-debacle/ |
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Sep 10 2014, 06:22 PM
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proton tipu orang selama nya
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