Vote for the best high rise which you think has the best concept, location, building design, value..do leave your opinions here. Cheers.

itu dreamcity stil cheras location?

Cheras height not in
The
List ？

not Seri kembangan??

Yeap Dreamcity is in Sri Kembangan but I add in anyway as it's consider in Balakong area where people looking to purchase one will consider dream city as well.

Sorry just realized I didn't include Lumiere by OCR.. There's no way for me to edit..

just know Altitude 236 facing hard sell , not sure how many pecent they sell for total unit

This post has been edited by bluecoat: Sep 7 2014, 12:26 PM

These are the new high rise medium and high ends. Cheras height probably a little some time ago..

Yeah so much affected by the SUKE highway..probably sold about 60% by now. The location is not that bad, sale should start picking up again when MRT2 line are confirmed. Those high rises inside Damai Perdana and BTHO will takes at least average 10mins just to reach Altitude236/Connaught area.

9ine, green residence?

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 7 2014, 12:50 PM

Ekocheras consider which part of Cheras?

Where is Cheras south? Why can give actual location name Wtf.

Ekocheras consider as Cheraa area..anything after Connaught/ lensen area..until balakong area, are Cheras south

Went to the altidute236 sales office today, still got. 10% remain units, very hard to sell, give 8%. Discount, free kitchen cabinet and aircons, ...but seems hard to sell...those buy for investment will have hard time

Went to the altidute236 sales office today, still got. 10% remain units, very hard to sell, give 8%. Discount, free kitchen cabinet and aircons, ...but seems hard to sell...those buy for investment will have hard time

when retirement i vote for window of the park , for ppl no yet retire like me still need rush to KL working , vote for you vista ~

IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).

You Vista is next to You City right?

same project ,
you city got 3 building you resident , you vista and you place with festival walk

[quote=Wild Wolf,Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM]
IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).



SUKE is coming not sure when only

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[quote=Wild Wolf,Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM]
IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).
SUKE is coming not sure when only

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Yeah...Looks like Cheras South future is bright, haha. There's plenty of connectivity. We just need more better commercials.

I do hope Festival Walks would be successful. All of us who stay in this area will benefits.

I do believe the Kajang-Cheras highway will improve after MRT1 is 90% complete when all the lanes are repaired and restored, jam would not be as terrible as now.

[quote=LTG,Sep 8 2014, 11:08 AM]
[quote=Wild Wolf,Sep 8 2014, 10:58 AM]
IMO...Those properties on the other ends (Towards Balakong highway) is not that bad in term of connectivity, as you always have 3 ways to go (Through Mandarina, Through Cheras-Kajang highway or Balakong Highway).
SUKE is coming not sure when only

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Suke highway from where link to where ?

Festival Walk need do better lolz , coz cheras central layout and structure really vomit even got MRT1 and MRT 2 exchange there.

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h...d801&dg=feature

yes those condo location around balakong and btho is the best location among cheras south.
have more ways to go. not too east not too west. go airport and putrajaya also easy and no need pay toll.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 8 2014, 09:20 PM

From Ampang (Where currently there's a lot of development - Elements/ Arte +, etc) to Taman Muda to Bukit Mandarina to Bukit Jalil. There's an exit/entrance at Bukit Mandarina near where Altitude 236..Thats why the condo are affected.

why no people vote one amerin wan?

me vote wotp la. But price also cantik for wotp too.

This post has been edited by tikaram: Sep 8 2014, 10:39 PM

Of all the high rises, here's how I would summarised it:

Best Concept
- Windows on the Park (Linear layouts, , functional building orientation)
- CloudTree (Surrounded by Reserve Forest, beautiful facilities and building design)

Most Value for Money
- Casa Green (Huge space, Lowest psf)

Best Greenery
- Windows on the Park (huge conceptual park to be planted and landscaped by the developer)
- CloudTree (Surrounded by reserved forest, chances of view being blocked are low)
- Green Residence (Reserved forest are inside the residence gated area)

Best Investment
- Casa Green (Lowest psf price)
- You City(Festival within walking distance + one station away to Cheras Sentral + MRT1)
- Cloud Tree (If MRT2 station are within walking distance)

Best Connectivity
- You City (MRT1, interchange at Cheras Sentral to MRT2, next to Kajang - Cheras highway)
- Lake Vista (Near to a huge park and surrounded by commercials all within walking distance)
- Cloud Tree (If MRT2 station in walking distance, near to Balakong Highway, nearest to Bukit Mandarina among those condos near Balakong highway

I guess the developer is not well known, marketing is not enough. Nobody really sure if the shopping mall gonna make it..

wah look like you vote ct... ct got 4 out of 5. wakaka.

for best connectivity i only agree lake vista... the other 2... hmmmm....
best value for money... only because size psf....... quite shallow ler.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 8 2014, 11:23 PM

Best Concept
- You city ( bcs mix development)
- wotp

Most Value for Money
- nil ( all expensive)

Best Greenery
- Windows on the Park
- Dream City

Best Investment
- You City
- Dream City

Best Connectivity
-Dream City MRT & KTM
- You City Only MRT

one amerin concept and location very good , just developer is not well known .
in coming 2-3 year , malaysia property sure in cold down period ..
that is high risk for me invest in small developer which financial not so strong so sustain.

from map look like passing you city

My honest personal favorite? Windows on the Park is on top of my list. WOTP has set the benchmark in term of luxury condo and Eco concept in Cheras South. Problem with WOTP is the price are now too high, out of reach for most cheras folks and most cheras folks will go for landed anytime.

Casa Green is the most worth buying condo for investment, I think the developer has underestimated the market, sold too cheap at that period of time. As long as the end products doesn't turn up disappointing..

These high rises at the bottom of my list:
Lumiere
The facilities offered are not versatile and facilities has too many powered dependent facilities, will affect the maintenance fee rate in short future. Priced too high, luckily they realized that and has reduced..

Green residence
Location is bad, almost no commercial. Surrounding neighborhood are very badly planned. The only way out from there are the infamous kajang cheras highway, the other way that links to BTHO are terrible. Growth potential in the surrounding area looks bleak.

Altitude 236
Location is not that bad but due to SUKE highway, sales are so badly affected, investment doesn't look good. I believe the highway is not such a negative thing but time will tell.

Maybe but no connection to you city area...not a good thing.

agree with you window on the park and casa green is the best living style , but it also come with best pricing , all big size like 1800 sq monthly maintenance fees is killing lolz

Looking at the Poll Results..Seems like most of us agree that WOTP are the best of all.

Can consider as Cheras most expensive high rise also

Wotp do have below 1000sqft. Block C, 916 sqft, just it's sold out only

Balakong and surrounding areas ... Balakong name not niche enough so nowadays developer use Cheras South ... notice that the Aeon there also called as Aeon Cheras Selatan.

casa green smallest unit is 1800 sq

condomium good with big space like semi D but if include maintaince fees really can get a real semi D already

Agree that window on the park is a best living project , but only for those bigger square feet type , not those below 1000sqf like u say above block c type is it

it's depend...actually 916 consider not bad. layout also quite practical.
as long as not pigeonhole macam those unit below 700sf.

916sf very good enough for retired couple,
young couple or small family with 1 or 2 kids.
the kids have 4+ acres parkland for them to explore safely.
especially good for family with 1 kid... the single kid family can intellect with others kids within the compound.
help to improve their social skill.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 17 2014, 10:32 AM

916sf is too typical design, lower price for better location/KL still available at current market.

I will opt for WOTP only if WIDE BALCONY design is applicable (which is one of SDB main selling point as well), others like typical design (916sf) is a big NO NO to me.

strongly agree with your point
The best living thingy I also think tat not include those block c
Only for others blocks No doubt tis is a very nice project

But I found tat the cloud tree project oso a very nice project recently ,if not compare the big sdb name with it ,it's by a new developer with few project complete with good feedback as well ,and with someone is telling me only 4 unit per floor onli

So lets see

This post has been edited by Mrmr: Sep 17 2014, 11:33 AM

I will vote for cloud tree , due to the facilities compare to wotp , cloud tree have almost the completer facilities like basket ball court , tennis court , badminton court , pet zone , sky deck , Jacuzzi , souna .

And the surrender of cloud tree is cover by 200 channel of cctv.

And the build up of the unit is much more similar with wotp .

Cheaper price compaire to wotp with similar build up unit design , greeny surrounding , much more facilities.

This is just my thinking .

This post has been edited by emross: Sep 17 2014, 12:15 PM

Pet Zone is a very good initiative. Not many condo have a pet zone but most condo they will have pets. It's pretty common nowadays in HK even the public park they built a dog zone for dog owners/pets to interact.
It's a very good selling point.

How much are Cloud Tree price psft for the average size let say 1400 sqft and above after discount? WOTP pricing is not that high as they launched one of the earliest in that area.

If i not mistaken , cloud tree largest build up is 15++ sqft , and the selling price is about rm650 after dis

Man...I totally agreed with you. I think the WOTP 916sf units are like those luxury but lowest spec car models. All the best WOTP concept and features are not applicable on 916st units, Large balcony, V building orientation, Windows Arch, actual park and facilities area a little too far..sad case but no doubt, it's still a good buy if those features are not the main reason you buy it..its the lowest entry.

This post has been edited by Wild Wolf: Sep 17 2014, 12:53 PM

wrong info.
for standard units, the biggest built up is 1545sf, and about 500psf.

WOTP selling price was like 480-500 psft earlier, I'm not sure now.. Not much different than most of these condos in this area!

can't compare. WoTP launched about 18 months before cloudtree. and the sizes are generally much larger.
WoTP launch their block C last year with price RM580 - 6xx psf.

This post has been edited by kitkat: Sep 17 2014, 01:35 PM

sure or not? with same quality and facility and condo on parkland concept wor?
if can found same concept, standard but typical layout at KL/ better location sure higher price.

almost all development around also ada small units... CloudTree, Vina also got.
Just CloudTree small units /pigeonhole unit layout much much worst among 3.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 17 2014, 03:52 PM

That's why it's pointless to have this threat/votes here if outsiders do not know well enough on the developments in details. And we or other potential do not need wrong info being shared here too, it's obviously u know nothing about cloudtree. Smal unit with bad layout? Can you show us the unit plan? We owner don't even have softcopy of the layout, only hardcopy from the hardcopy flyer.

Block E Astoria consists of few types of sizes :
1- 893sf
2- 960sf
3- 998sf
4- 1090sf
5- 2052sf (only one unit for this size & it comes with 5rooms)

Attached photo is the 916sf pigeon hole unit of WOTP with vertical typical layout which different from the unique horizontal wide balcony type of WOTP premium unit.

Block E Astoria has similar layout as your 916sf or even large size at 998sf and 1090sf, if we r pigeon hole unit, yours would be mini pigeon?
We should provide fact, not always criticise worse layout worse masterplan worst developer etc. Let's me find u one of the Block E unit layout and compare yea.



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These 2 are one of the 4 unit plan layouts.
Why so bad about it? Only 4 units layout (except the 2000sf+)
3 rooms perfect for couple and small family within 1000sf.
Vertical typical layout too.

That's why if one can get phase 1, pls be fast.


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If one would like to compare Wotp and CT, at this point of time it will leads to argument lo. But we can always compare both of the developer delivered projects for simple comparison. Sdb most recent vp projects are five stones, vs zalam complete project 1 sentul. Just find out in propwall those completed photos we easily can know who are more superior. This is just indicator on how reliable of developer based on their track record. Sdb is not just branded for nothing, they are multiple property awards winners in the past. Compare to zalam?? Yet to find out...

Ofcuz no point to argue just wotp owners seems arrogant to point out every project weakness and praise wotp till sky high whereas other prop owner just keep quiet.
We shouldn't compare at all at the first place, should compare in our heart n find the best one.
It's pretty unfair to compare reputation of developer, as zalam is a main contractor which just started to venture in property and this CT would be their first high end benchmark I would say. FYI they r now constructing Maison Ara damansara and some other projecrs too.

Brand doesn't mean is the best here as we can see even YTL Mahsing Setia do offer poor workmanship project (differ contract using). Reliability also based on the performance evaluation by other customer who hav been using Zalam as contractor.

We wil wait and see how's the end product looks like.
Found this thread this morning and actually decided not to comment. But can't see our home being bullshit for nth since the condo yet to complete. Wait 2016 Ok? =)

your wotp 916sf mana cari? wrong 1 ler
? some are pigeonhole.
contoh CT worst 2 type unit layout found. and 1 macam a pigeonhole size.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 17 2014, 04:58 PM


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Well I got this from the Initial E brochure since last year 2013.
Listen. It's 2013 where the IT wrongly uploaded this incomplete brochure (according to chulk kor).

And heard this unit not exist anymore and only the above layout unit plan for block E.
That's why I said your info not updated. Otherwise why the e-brochure being removed once uploaded within a day last year?

Why not potential investor compare developer track records? That's what it's been delivered and the most accurate and reliable way to judge. Why most high end developer can sell at premium price ? And people pay for it? That's why I said we can't compare ct and Wotp yet. But we can compare developer reputation. That is also one of the deciding factor. Even zalam now main con for maison ara damansara does not mean they will become high end developer. Ok la, maybe can consider 'high end' contractor. Main con and developer are 2 different things. Just like apple and Foxconn. If Foxconn can be like apple they must have do it long time ago.
Those so call branded developer u mention never in my list lo. They are famous for lousy workmanship. We are talking about real high end developer such as e&o , brdb, t&t, uem sunrise lo....

ic.thank for update
but the wotp 916 sf...picture u attached... macam wrong 1 ler.... kitchen not in the middle ler.

I search it on Google wo.
That's why we not a real owner won't be knowing the project in details. Wotp or other projects are all good as long as the purchase happy with their money spent.
No point to argue. I'm giving fact that the odd layout should be canceled. Not sure maybe only 1-2 units out of 260units.

No point to argue at all.
If u r in business then u would know everyone work as a team.
There are service industry and also front business etc.
Eg. Ink supplier & paper material get business from Printer/manufacturing company, printer get business from customer and customer get order from Purchaser and so on.

Ofxuz can't compare as zalam only a main contractor and now developer, I don't see them aggressive enough to become top developer, maybe they don't need but concentrate on construct their building with quality workmanship. But who knows I might be wrong.

ic. better check on sdb site. the 916sf link:
http://www.sdb.com.my/detail_view.aspx?fil...otp_C_type4.jpg

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 17 2014, 05:09 PM


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916sf layout looks ok. How much was the price for this size?

If not mistaken those <1000 sqft units with high density (found in both WOTP and CT) are built to follow government law to build low cost property whenever the residential land development more than 5 arces. You will realize the those units proposed price max at RM100k, and top up with 400k+ renovation fee. Obviously developers found the loophole of the law in this case.

Please accept the fact that those layout are CHEAPEST design that allow developers build MORE units at LOWEST costs. No point to "beautiful" your developer name, you won't get any reward. In term of value, do u think your property value will increase sky high because comments here at forum? Ppl are not stupid and value will become clear when construction completed.

If you're buyer of block C from WOTP, shame on you because your unit is not something SDB willing to build for, it's just forced by government. You won't share most of the best features offered by them.

This post has been edited by pregnantboy: Sep 17 2014, 05:39 PM

LOL...guys...chill chill..
If you guys are arguing on the 916sft...think both projects layout almost about the same.
Now probably the MRT2 station after Alam Damai will determine which would be a better prop..

Location wise, both has pros and cons..

WOTP Location:
Pros
Has a lot of land in the surrounding which could contribute to its value.
There's earmarked school zone.
A lot of future routes to be built. Connectivity is excellent.
Close distance to commercial hotspots.
On flat terrain, next to lake (Subjective)

Cons
View might be blocked by future development
Future might lose the hill next to it, as the area are earmarked as residential area.


Cloud Tree Location
Pro
New route towards Alam Damai (TBC - Plan as what KVsual has shared)
View is excellent on high ground, chances of view being blocked are lower.
Near to the future Damai Commercial center and a school.

Cons
Entrance toward CT area a little bad shape.(Old abandoned shops)
On high hill, far from the main road. (Subjective)
Near to a huge temple (Subjective)
Future might lose its surrounding greeneries, as more development already on the way.

Anyway...when both the props ready, guys invite me lah to your houses and let me see..haha. Congrats to the buyers.

This post has been edited by Wild Wolf: Sep 17 2014, 06:12 PM

Aiyo this post created by you to know which one the best for you for investment, we argue at your own interest lol
FYI the temple is Incence-free type, gonna have 88 types of gold Buddha figure there. Can pray pray always without air pollution. Perhaps jam la..
Heard there should be a School plan in cloudtree area but no info at all

Actually Youcity project quite good just next to mrt line 2 and has alots of unit layout choice.
Wonder why they gonna launch their You Place and festive Walk.

a lot of people prefer their house away from school and shoplot. near to school and shoplot = near to traffic and jam, at the main road and main junction.
but is very subjective maybe you like it.



This post has been edited by kitkat: Sep 17 2014, 06:29 PM

Its because I looking for investment. As Kvsual said...more jam, better!

Depends...
Invest for ownstay then less Jam but near amenities and easy access, near public transportation.
Invest for Flip/Rent then nearer the better for above..

But no matter what project, cheras south getting wong in future.
Alots makan makanan at C180. Hope to see more!
Hopefully the retail of One Amerin would be good one... need more up class cafe like antipodean haha

Looks reasonable. One of the agent shared a site with the layouts for the new Block E...

http://cloudtree.realtymalaysia.com/types/

You city is next to mrt line 1 which completed 2016 , is good for investment and access road is good compare other but of coz own stay prefer green , quiet and big space then Wotp n cloud tree , Casa green will be the best choice

How u gonna kno the temple wil have 88 Buddha? your radar reali strong enuff

Maybe he counted one by one?

Because we have Internet, we have Google and we have powerful Facebook =P


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Who? I've just found this website yesterday (created by one agent).

one more different about WOTP.. can be pros or cons.

they plan the parkland first before the condo building.
after parkland planing, the leftover land will be the place for condo building.
the concept can say first of its kind in malaysia.
parkland take priority before condo.

not like others. most plan condo first and leftover land it's for parkland and facilities.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 18 2014, 02:13 PM

Yes plan for parkland, but stil construct the building first. Actually it's just marketing gimmick. Developer do appoint landscaping and architect to design and plan the masterplan and greenery is one of the criteria needed to be prior time too.
That's why central park of Cloudtree is the selling point (*Ok la) and the 4sth Lift located at the central Park is one of the kind and rare to see it in nowadays developments. The lift serve different level of facilities of the clubhouses and ground floor can access to the central park for a walk. When return to clubhouse entrance residents can opt to walk stairs for 3stys or take the lift too befoee heading bk to ur unit or block A&B.

Haha If u wanna compare the pros n cons of every project, it would never hav ending la. Just happy with own purchase enough. No need to fight since WOTP ady fully sold soon.

planing and construct is different lar.
of coz have to construct building first. if not all the plants cover by dust during construction time and die liao loh.

err... lift at central park got ler. got few condo also sama macam ler. example mk11.,, few more. forget the condo name liao.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 18 2014, 02:25 PM

That's why i said rare. Haha.
At first I thought sdb plan to "plant" the park first before building. Mis un the brochure at the beginning. Haha.

hi, the agent was alston if not mistaken, aunt says very helpful guy.

Eh, what's the link for the site? Can share?

http://cloudtree.realtymalaysia.com/

Cool, thanks. Will check it out.

I am curious why nobody has voted for Lake Vista by UDA? Is there any particular reason?

only WOTP has the earthquake-resistant features among all.

i think only Cloudtree has 4 units per floor, 480 feet above sea level among all.

each project have their own pros and cons. some people prefer earthquake resistant, some prefer 4 units per floor to enjoy the privacy.

Why clound tree votes suddenly jump..... so high?

maybe because most CT owner doesn't know about this poll until few days ago after someone shared the link.

again, a poll voted in this forum doesn't actually mean anything.

This post has been edited by kitkat: Sep 20 2014, 08:14 AM

CT surrounded by dead shoplots, wonder how this area going to turn into high class living. Wotp at least surrounded by semi d and bungalow , those shoplots in btho at least have reputable bank such as Citibank , hlb and food it has pappa rich. In term of location one can easily make the comparison ...

yup, many foreign labors stay near CT along belimbing to damai perdana.
macam harmoni apartment at belimbing, few more flat/apartments around belimbing near dp, shophouses around, some landed houses in between belimbing and damai perdana.

This post has been edited by HELLO HELLO: Sep 20 2014, 09:01 AM

In terms if infrastructure, btho already have mrt1 cover. As for mrt2 it is still uncertain whether it will go to btho or damai perdana from alam damai. Even not taking mrt 2 into consideration, btho already at advantage. If mrt2 again going to btho, it's a bonus to Wotp owners. So it's kinda of bet if one invest in ct due to mrt2.

those shop lot is about 400 meters away next to the junction. not sure how you defined "surrounded".
CT is surrounded mostly by landed houses.

if some shop lot located 400 away is consider "surrounded", then WOTP is surrounded by many factories.

This post has been edited by kitkat: Sep 20 2014, 09:08 AM