That's why it's pointless to have this threat/votes here if outsiders do not know well enough on the developments in details. And we or other potential do not need wrong info being shared here too, it's obviously u know nothing about cloudtree. Smal unit with bad layout? Can you show us the unit plan? We owner don't even have softcopy of the layout, only hardcopy from the hardcopy flyer.

Block E Astoria consists of few types of sizes :
1- 893sf
2- 960sf
3- 998sf
4- 1090sf
5- 2052sf (only one unit for this size & it comes with 5rooms)

Attached photo is the 916sf pigeon hole unit of WOTP with vertical typical layout which different from the unique horizontal wide balcony type of WOTP premium unit.

Block E Astoria has similar layout as your 916sf or even large size at 998sf and 1090sf, if we r pigeon hole unit, yours would be mini pigeon?
We should provide fact, not always criticise worse layout worse masterplan worst developer etc. Let's me find u one of the Block E unit layout and compare yea.



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These 2 are one of the 4 unit plan layouts.
Why so bad about it? Only 4 units layout (except the 2000sf+)
3 rooms perfect for couple and small family within 1000sf.
Vertical typical layout too.

That's why if one can get phase 1, pls be fast.


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Ofcuz no point to argue just wotp owners seems arrogant to point out every project weakness and praise wotp till sky high whereas other prop owner just keep quiet.
We shouldn't compare at all at the first place, should compare in our heart n find the best one.
It's pretty unfair to compare reputation of developer, as zalam is a main contractor which just started to venture in property and this CT would be their first high end benchmark I would say. FYI they r now constructing Maison Ara damansara and some other projecrs too.

Brand doesn't mean is the best here as we can see even YTL Mahsing Setia do offer poor workmanship project (differ contract using). Reliability also based on the performance evaluation by other customer who hav been using Zalam as contractor.

We wil wait and see how's the end product looks like.
Found this thread this morning and actually decided not to comment. But can't see our home being bullshit for nth since the condo yet to complete. Wait 2016 Ok? =)

Well I got this from the Initial E brochure since last year 2013.
Listen. It's 2013 where the IT wrongly uploaded this incomplete brochure (according to chulk kor).

And heard this unit not exist anymore and only the above layout unit plan for block E.
That's why I said your info not updated. Otherwise why the e-brochure being removed once uploaded within a day last year?

I search it on Google wo.
That's why we not a real owner won't be knowing the project in details. Wotp or other projects are all good as long as the purchase happy with their money spent.
No point to argue. I'm giving fact that the odd layout should be canceled. Not sure maybe only 1-2 units out of 260units.

No point to argue at all.
If u r in business then u would know everyone work as a team.
There are service industry and also front business etc.
Eg. Ink supplier & paper material get business from Printer/manufacturing company, printer get business from customer and customer get order from Purchaser and so on.

Ofxuz can't compare as zalam only a main contractor and now developer, I don't see them aggressive enough to become top developer, maybe they don't need but concentrate on construct their building with quality workmanship. But who knows I might be wrong.

Aiyo this post created by you to know which one the best for you for investment, we argue at your own interest lol
FYI the temple is Incence-free type, gonna have 88 types of gold Buddha figure there. Can pray pray always without air pollution. Perhaps jam la..
Heard there should be a School plan in cloudtree area but no info at all

Actually Youcity project quite good just next to mrt line 2 and has alots of unit layout choice.
Wonder why they gonna launch their You Place and festive Walk.

Depends...
Invest for ownstay then less Jam but near amenities and easy access, near public transportation.
Invest for Flip/Rent then nearer the better for above..

But no matter what project, cheras south getting wong in future.
Alots makan makanan at C180. Hope to see more!
Hopefully the retail of One Amerin would be good one... need more up class cafe like antipodean haha

Because we have Internet, we have Google and we have powerful Facebook =P


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Who? I've just found this website yesterday (created by one agent).

Yes plan for parkland, but stil construct the building first. Actually it's just marketing gimmick. Developer do appoint landscaping and architect to design and plan the masterplan and greenery is one of the criteria needed to be prior time too.
That's why central park of Cloudtree is the selling point (*Ok la) and the 4sth Lift located at the central Park is one of the kind and rare to see it in nowadays developments. The lift serve different level of facilities of the clubhouses and ground floor can access to the central park for a walk. When return to clubhouse entrance residents can opt to walk stairs for 3stys or take the lift too befoee heading bk to ur unit or block A&B.

Haha If u wanna compare the pros n cons of every project, it would never hav ending la. Just happy with own purchase enough. No need to fight since WOTP ady fully sold soon.

That's why i said rare. Haha.
At first I thought sdb plan to "plant" the park first before building. Mis un the brochure at the beginning. Haha.

Stil nonstop keep fighting fighting to protect own project. Both from wotp we know u in love with Wotp so much and so am I to my Cloudtree.
U r talking about current, could u predict what will happen around here after all the landed n condo completed? There are whole plot of bungalow semi D land behind Cloudtree. No point to compare bit by bit.

If want to say, then after I passby wotp site yesterday realised that the Block between Block r way too close, especially Block C facing the low/medium cost apartment like the 2 block almost touching each others and the view ady been blocked.
Infront of WOTP another piece of private land perhaps wil have another high rise. Hence the only best is facing the the Park and Pool direction but stil facing opposite neighbour balcony without privacy unless you opt for higher floor of the middle block.
Block A shorter hence all the balcony facing the park and opposite balcony.

AI Photos is kinda misleading sometimes, the park looks spacious ddoesn't mean the actual wil be the same might be smaller (just like I realised the blocks close to each others). Just like CT AI might be misleading too, yet to know until the final product done.

If keep make noise on other prop, never ending argument and we always can point out every weaknesses or each project.
Pls don't jialat jialat always on other ppl choices..
Everyone has its own preference and investment strategy.

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No mrt2 WOTP complain, now say even no mrt2 also nvm.

I think u r talking yourself and ur lovely neighbour too. Everybody know someone always criticise other project in almost every thread until we ady give him a nick =)
Sorry we do accept all the negative comments as this could help CT owners to verify and confirm with our developer, just like what we always have discuss with developer on the potential problems from the beginning since 2013. If we don't accept the comments, we won't be complaining to developer for further improvement
Yes open forum is freedom of speech, but not spreading something not a fact. If one do not know the whole story or fact, pls do not give comment or provide the misleading info.
We as owner who knows project well,should provide the correct and accurate info to potential buyers. Atleast not go to other thread and said this project jialat that one jialat.
Urside ady have the first impression that wotp is the best, hence whatever comments which against ur project would be eyesore for yourside too. But we r telling the fact.

This post has been edited by Kvsual: Sep 20 2014, 09:48 AM

I never ever say cannot. I'm not saying u provide wrong facts. Nways no point to argue. As I always mentioned all are good projects with pros and cons. Let's the buyer well spend with their money by reading each thread. As I know many just pm pm pm without really read tru the information stated in the thread. Some just lazy to scroll. Nways if anyone wish to get detailed info of Wotp, can pm wotp owners or in their thread, same goes to me on CT.

Driving distance by Google map from Wotp to Paparich.
Definitely not within 500km as I always go paparich for lunch, cash out RHB and Banking in Citibank twice a week. And passby WOTP too.
Nways stil very near to amenities.


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Where the 2km come from? Where u heard the news from?
Did zalam mention anything bout balakong station?
And I guess zalam do not need answer, and I, an owner can't demand anything at al since its stated Proposed Mrt line 2, nothing is confirmed and out of their control.
As mentioned before, if damai perdana station confirmed, it's a bonus. We never shout bout the station as most of the owners CT did mentioned it's better located further bit from CT. 1.5km- 2km just perfect as we do not want the area to be too congested and messy.

Oh sorry. Just Google map and it appeared wotp to be there.
Even Google provide wrong info. Haha.
But still ard 1km